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SCOTUS 2012: The Grand Finale
« on: September 27, 2011, 07:31:10 AM »
OK, if The Regime wants this, does this signal a fix is in?

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/64475.html

They got compromising picks of Kennedy or what?!

On a related note, maybe the defections from and dissatisfaction of doctors in the AMA and with ObamaCare can be spun as a positive...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/sallypipes/2011/09/26/doctor-and-ama-split-over-contentious-issue-of-obamacare/
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Re: Obama Regime Skipping 11th, Wants to Take ObamaCare Case to Supreme's
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2011, 10:36:26 AM »
This does need to go to the Supreme Court, but I am extremely uneasy about it.
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Re: Obama Regime Skipping 11th, Wants to Take ObamaCare Case to Supreme's
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2011, 11:17:40 AM »
I hear ya.

Relying on them as a first resort never sits well with me.

This kind of crap needed to be slapped down when it was being hatched, not after its been unleashed upon humanity...

If it isn't killed we could be royally effed.  If not struck down and not repealed, we will be effed for sure!
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Re: Obama Regime Skipping 11th, Wants to Take ObamaCare Case to Supreme's
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2011, 11:19:45 AM »
Personally, I'm stoked. Let's git it on!

The sooner this is adjudicated the sooner I can make permanent plans. At stake is my future status as an American citizen. Should SCOTUS deem it constitutional to force individuals to comport ourselves to this extortion I will (here, let me insert some emphasis)

renounce my citizenship.

I grow weary of the asinine gamesmanship that our current 'leaders' play - with us as unwitting or unwilling hostages. I'm tired of being a pawn in the left's socialist schemes. And I'm done with the proposition of abiding by the rules and being fvcked while watching my illegal neighbors with new cars in the driveway (more like parked on the lawn) and big-screen TV's blaring out anti-white hate speech for all the neighborhood to see.

"Go Galt"? pffft, I'm gonna make Galt look like Øbozo.

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Re: Obama Regime Skipping 11th, Wants to Take ObamaCare Case to Supreme's
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2011, 11:26:46 AM »
I hear ya 'Soup, there is a measure of liberation in a clear cut answer, and patience is my least favorable vice.

It just blows the big one how we got here.

It should not have had to come to this.

And when time came for the opposition to step up and impeach this POS despite the odds, they punked out again.

I'm tired of candy-asses punking out and here we are waiting for SCOTUS to inform us if we are in a functioning Republic anymore or a turd world socialist oligarchy waiting to become a dictatorship...

Pisses the hell out of me!

Makes me want to throttle gutless wonders on sight!
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Re: Obama Regime Skipping 11th, Wants to Take ObamaCare Case to Supreme's
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2011, 02:49:23 PM »
Nice of the NFIB to be on the ball and stop the slow walking of this by The Regime!

http://blog.heritage.org/2011/09/28/obamacare-has-arrived-in-the-supreme-court/

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Re: Obama Regime Skipping 11th, Wants to Take ObamaCare Case to Supreme's
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2011, 07:43:40 PM »
A certain Libertarian PhD, by the name of Michael Munger, who does a segment with our local AM talk radio guy, believes we're cooked and the Supremes are going to let Obamacare stand, not because it's Constitutional, but because of stare decisis and precedent.

Admin lawyers are running the same bait and switch play as FDR's did with Social Security, which is/was sold to the people as a "program" and then defended in the courts as a tax.  Munger is of the opinion that as the Supremes have already blessed Congress' ability to tax, and under the commerce clause no less, they're going to stick it to us on these grounds.

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Re: Obama Regime Skipping 11th, Wants to Take ObamaCare Case to Supreme's
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2011, 08:53:05 PM »
Let's just say that the future of American liberty in the hands of Anthony Kennedy gives me no cause for optimism.
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Re: Obama Regime Skipping 11th, Wants to Take ObamaCare Case to Supreme's
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2011, 09:20:25 PM »
Quote from: IronDioPriest on September 28, 2011, 08:53:05 PM
Let's just say that the future of American liberty in the hands of Anthony Kennedy gives me no cause for optimism.

Dr. Munger did not mention Kennedy; what he did say is that Alito and Roberts have been complicit in shredding the 10th Amendment, which will assist Obamacare in prevailing.
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Re: Obama Regime Skipping 11th, Wants to Take ObamaCare Case to Supreme's
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2011, 06:56:26 AM »
If that is what lights the fuse then so be it.  May patience is running damn thin!
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Re: Obama Regime Skipping 11th, Wants to Take ObamaCare Case to Supreme's
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2011, 09:46:35 PM »
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/morning-jay-would-liberalism-be-better-without-obamacare_598279.html

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...consulting firm McKinsey has surveyed businesses and found that 30 percent of employers plan to “definitely or probably” stop offering employer-sponsored insurance, and that among employers with “a high awareness of reform,” that number jumps to nearly 60 percent. If these estimates are anywhere near correct, tens of millions of people will lose their current insurance – contrary to the promises of President Obama – and worse, federal spending on health care will spiral out of control, as millions of people will be eligible for federal subsidies.

If any of this comes to pass, liberalism will suffer a terrible blow. Let’s remember that the Democratic party, in particular its liberal wing, is entirely responsible for Obamacare. It is that side of the political divide that promised it could do a better job of managing health care than what we have with the status quo. And if the rest of Obamacare fails as miserably as the CLASS Act has, the left will shoulder all of the blame, and it could be decades before the country ever trusts liberal Democrats again.

If, on the other hand, the Supreme Court strikes down Obamacare next year, the public won’t experience any of these negative effects, and liberals would have a fantastic rallying cry for their dispirited base heading into the 2012 election. Just as the judgment against the NIRA gave Roosevelt and the liberals the jolt they needed for the “Second New Deal,” a Court ruling against Obamacare would transform that terrible, unworkable law into a kind of “bloody shirt,” an enduring totem of slain liberal nobility that could inspire the left for decades to come. More importantly, it would give the Democrats an opportunity to try again and do better next time. We might then call it the greatest mulligan in the last 75 years of American politics.

Though I understand this school of thought (and it makes a lot of sense to me), *IF* the Supreme Court does not strike Obamacare care down as unconstitutional it will be the end of the country as we all know it. I agree that this school of thought could be behind Obama's sudden desire to speed up the process after having spent so much effort and resources trying to slow it up - hoping that Obamacare doesn't get struck down but also, seeing it as a great opportunity if it is struck down; essentially a win-win for the progressives. But in reality, none of that matters to the country - because if the Supreme Court doesn't follow the Constitution on this then there basically is no Constitution left to follow.
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Re: Obama Regime Skipping 11th, Wants to Take ObamaCare Case to Supreme's
« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2011, 03:00:44 AM »
And then we'll be a sh*thole like Greece , only a whole lot bigger . The OWS crowd bear a "striking" resemblance to the rioting Greeks .
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Re: Obama Regime Skipping 11th, Wants to Take ObamaCare Case to Supreme's
« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2011, 07:38:05 AM »

If Mr. Questionmark screws this up, he'll be the first idiot the angry mob goes after!



It'll all just roll on from there...



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Re: Obama Regime Skipping 11th, Wants to Take ObamaCare Case to Supreme's
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2011, 08:09:41 PM »
Am I off my rocker to be concerned about the safety of some of teh SCOTUS?
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Re: Obama Regime Skipping 11th, Wants to Take ObamaCare Case to Supreme's
« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2011, 09:07:22 PM »
Quote from: Dan on October 22, 2011, 08:09:41 PM
Am I off my rocker to be concerned about the safety of some of teh SCOTUS?

I'd say not.  Horrible-r things have happened.
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Re: Obama Regime Skipping 11th, Wants to Take ObamaCare Case to Supreme's
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2011, 08:13:04 PM »
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/11/doj_refuses_to_release_kagan_obamacare_documents.html

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There are plenty of Republican congressmen and senators who believe that associate justice Elena Kagan should recuse herself from the upcoming Supreme Court case involving the constitutionality of Obamacare because of her service as Solicitor General.

Emails released last summer clearly showed that Kagan's interest in Obamacare exceeded the threshold by which judges should voluntarily recuse themselves.


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Re: Obama Regime Skipping 11th, Wants to Take ObamaCare Case to Supreme's
« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2011, 03:45:26 PM »
That proglodyte doesn't have the decency to recuse herself, you watch!
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Re: Obama Regime Skipping 11th, Wants to Take ObamaCare Case to Supreme's
« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2011, 05:09:13 PM »
I'd be willing to bet a digital scoobie snack that you're correct Libertas!
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Re: Obama Regime Skipping 11th, Wants to Take ObamaCare Case to Supreme's
« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2011, 06:42:41 AM »
Not the way I'd like to earn a scoobie snack...but, that's life!
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Re: Obama Regime Skipping 11th, Wants to Take ObamaCare Case to Supreme's
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