Topic: SCOTUS 2012: The Grand Finale

[Glock32]

I am henceforth referring to it as Robertscare.

[charlesoakwood]

if we take power this year we will need to start pushing for an amendment to ensure that this will never happen again.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/gop-governors-vow-to-ignore-obamacare/article/2500862
Republican governors are planning to ignore the Supreme Court's decision
...

Republican Governors Association said that nothing should be done by the states until after the election, a clear signal that they believe a GOP president, House and Senate will kill the health care reform
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http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-congress/2012/06/cantor-house-will-vote-on-repeal-week-of-july-127555.html
House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) said Thursday that the Republican-led House will vote on repealing the health care law soon after the July 4 recess.

Cantor, who sets the floor schedule in the House, said in a statement that the House will vote on the repeal the week of July 9 – which Cantor said will clear the path for “patient-centered reforms that lower costs and increase choice.”  ::explodinghead::

No fool, just show us your manhood and repeal it.  Nobody's crying for something new we're crying for relief from your idiocy.

[LadyVirginia]

People have long accepted the idea of taxing as a way to compel behavior. 


The tax code is full of exceptions or deferments or credits etc...  these are often called loopholes but what they do is cause people/companies to change their behavior.

[John Florida]

if we take power this year we will need to start pushing for an amendment to ensure that this will never happen again.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/gop-governors-vow-to-ignore-obamacare/article/2500862
Republican governors are planning to ignore the Supreme Court's decision
...

Republican Governors Association said that nothing should be done by the states until after the election, a clear signal that they believe a GOP president, House and Senate will kill the health care reform
****

http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-congress/2012/06/cantor-house-will-vote-on-repeal-week-of-july-127555.html
House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) said Thursday that the Republican-led House will vote on repealing the health care law soon after the July 4 recess.

Cantor, who sets the floor schedule in the House, said in a statement that the House will vote on the repeal the week of July 9 – which Cantor said will clear the path for “patient-centered reforms that lower costs and increase choice.”  ::explodinghead::

No fool, just show us your manhood and repeal it.  Nobody's crying for something new we're crying for relief from your idiocy.

  AND THIS HORSE SHYT will be followed with a fund raising letter.Screw them repeal it first.

[warpmine]

Alright so now it's a tax matter meaning budgetary which also says that a simple majority is needed. Am I correct in this assumption?

[Weisshaupt]

if we take power this year we will need to start pushing for an amendment to ensure that this will never happen again.

Even if we got an Amendment passed, the court would ignore it as they just ignore the clear intent and text of the Constitution.
Our government has been overrun by Barbarians, and there is only one solution to that.

[charlesoakwood]

Alright so now it's a tax matter meaning budgetary which also says that a simple majority is needed. Am I correct in this assumption?

Sounds correct.

[Pandora]

There are side issues of concern that have passed as well.

The medical schools are mandated to accept more "minority" students regardless of aptitude or merit; these will be your future doctors.

There's the tax on medical devices.

There's the additional 3%+ tax on your house.

There's the Death Panel.

And there's probably more of which we're unaware - 2700 pages of it, that even Scalia wouldn't impose the reading of on himself or his staff.

On Tuesday, a radio-show caller from North Carolina was upset that his 63 year-old mother was denied a PETscan by Medicare, and the law is such that she cannot pay to have one with her own money.  I'm 58.  Will this sort of thing be de riguerre with insurance company policies written by the government?

[warpmine]

if we take power this year we will need to start pushing for an amendment to ensure that this will never happen again.

Even if we got an Amendment passed, the court would ignore it as they just ignore the clear intent and text of the Constitution.
Our government has been overrun by Barbarians, and there is only one solution to that.

You got that war javelin ready?

Told you all I did. We'll never correct this peaceful means.

[Predator Don]

Erick Erickson finds many silver linings, and I think there's merit to some of them...

No Merit that matters. The Court has affirmed that the Fed can compel you to buy things, eat your broccoli, or eat a sh*t sandwich or fine/tax you for your disobedience.  This is Harry Reid's "Paying taxes is voluntary" argument writ large.  After all you can always choose to not pay your taxes, and its not the courts job to protect you from going to jail if you fail to obey your masters.



Repeal won't matter now the that the Constitution says "the Fed can do whatever they want as long as they call it a tax or tax penalty"
The only way this gets reset is via blood. Its either that or accept our slavery.

Yea, "repeal obamacare" will become the new buzzword for republicans, as I believe many are giddy over the fact anyone can be courced  thru taxation.

And get ready for republicans to suger coat this turd by "recommending" a larger tax write off. You know, ease the pain. Nope, our constitution has become such a living breathing document that literally all goes.

Change the tax code? It won't matter. Flat tax? So what. The ultimate power thru taxation is here in all its glory, chris matthews is jerkin off right now and won't matter what the rates are, if you pay in or not or you don't earn a red cent.

[charlesoakwood]

Will this sort of thing be de riguerre with insurance company policies written by the government?

That's rhetorical, right?

[Pandora]

Plus, the IRS no longer needs a warrant or a lien to access your bank accounts.

[charlesoakwood]

Plus, the IRS no longer needs a warrant or a lien to access your bank accounts.

Elaboration please.

[Predator Don]

Plus, the IRS no longer needs a warrant or a lien to access your bank accounts.

Oh chit....thanks. I can conduct my personal affairs without a checking or savings account, but not my business.

[Glock32]

The old saying is when you can't beat 'em, join 'em.  Why bother going to work every day?  Why don't we all just become freeloaders ourselves?  Milk every government program you can.  Claim every conceivable credit, write off, and offset.  Become a burden to the system rather than an enabler.

Anyone been laid off recently?  Don't even bother looking for a job.  Milk that unemployment for every cent you can.  I mean how the hell else are we supposed to reign in this government?  Being the responsible ones has for damn sure accomplished nothing.

[Weisshaupt]

Plus, the IRS no longer needs a warrant or a lien to access your bank accounts.

Oh chit....thanks. I can conduct my personal affairs without a checking or savings account, but not my business.

I am not sure, but I believe a C-Corporation is exempt for that edict. Thanks to corporations being people, I don't think they can put a lien on your corporate accounts if the corporation keeps separate books.

[Glock32]

Come on y'all, the words "can" and "cannot" are meaningless anymore.  There is no rule of law!  The government will do whatever it wants, law or no law.

[LadyVirginia]

There's the Death Panel.

Who here wouldn't be affected by that?

My mother got a pacemaker 3 years ago.  She's in her 70's.

My youngest was a preemie.  No one among the med staff thought she'd survive birth and if she did she's be handicapped.  One doc even said something to effect that I already had *3* kids......

[Predator Don]

Plus, the IRS no longer needs a warrant or a lien to access your bank accounts.

Oh chit....thanks. I can conduct my personal affairs without a checking or savings account, but not my business.

I am not sure, but I believe a C-Corporation is exempt for that edict. Thanks to corporations being people, I don't think they can put a lien on your corporate accounts if the corporation keeps separate books.

Right now, I'm an LLC.....and hell, it may be exempt today but maybe not tomorrow.

[John Florida]

There's the Death Panel.

Who here wouldn't be affected by that?

My mother got a pacemaker 3 years ago.  She's in her 70's.

My youngest was a preemie.  No one among the med staff thought she'd survive birth and if she did she's be handicapped.  One doc even said something to effect that I already had *3* kids......

  Did you slap the taste right out of his mouth?