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Offline ToddF

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Surge
« on: October 07, 2011, 10:50:15 AM »
Poll: Cain surges, opens up 20-point lead on Romney

This is called coalescing behind the non-bundler's candidate.   ::grouphug::

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Re: Surge
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2011, 11:08:06 AM »
Hooly Balss!   <---(That's how my buddy's Norwegian Grandpa used to say it)

Now, this IS Zogby, so I don't wanna get too excited. But that is definitely a surge from even Zogby's last go-'round.

IF he's going to be the guy that prevents Romney from getting the nomination, Cain. Needs. Money.
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Re: Surge
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2011, 11:15:37 AM »
I'm writing a check!

 ::whoohoo::
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Re: Surge
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2011, 11:21:00 AM »
Quote from: Libertas on October 07, 2011, 11:15:37 AM
I'm writing a check!

 ::whoohoo::

I'm waiting just a bit longer. The conservative electorate has been fickle in identifying who it is that will run against Romney. I want things to settle in a bit before I start writing checks.
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Re: Surge
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2011, 12:09:16 PM »
Quote from: IronDioPriest on October 07, 2011, 11:21:00 AM
Quote from: Libertas on October 07, 2011, 11:15:37 AM
I'm writing a check!

 ::whoohoo::

I'm waiting just a bit longer. The conservative electorate has been fickle in identifying who it is that will run against Romney. I want things to settle in a bit before I start writing checks.

I understand that, and normally I would agree...but depending how much time you are talking about the decision could be made for you.  I'm thinking that striking early may pay dividends later...
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Re: Surge
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2011, 12:17:30 PM »
About the only thing left is to see how Cain handles the full attention, of the Army of Retard that's about to be directed his way.  Judging from Odonnell's performance, Cain isn't going to be leaning forward/bending over any time soon.
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Re: Surge
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2011, 12:27:02 PM »
Quote from: MNHawk on October 07, 2011, 12:17:30 PM
About the only thing left is to see how Cain handles the full attention, of the Army of Retard that's about to be directed his way.  Judging from Odonnell's performance, Cain isn't going to be leaning forward/bending over any time soon.

Exactly. Now that full attention is on him, what'll he do? He's prone to saying things that he has to explain later. If he can weather the sh*tstorm for a few weeks, he'll get my money.
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Re: Surge
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2011, 04:58:04 PM »

More attention, "I'm not running for theologian in chief."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1adbUcE7YHY&feature=player_embedded#!


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Re: Surge
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2011, 05:56:43 PM »
What an excellent, excellent interview.
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Re: Surge
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2011, 07:18:51 PM »
Good interview.Herman Cain is my kind of guy....so much I do not want him to mis speak because it gives the conservative elites a reason (excuse) to marginalize his candidacy, not to mention the pitiful press.

Cains color makes no difference to me, but I'm finding it quite satisfying, since i've had a few admit thier vote carried a politically correct motive, ignoring obama's  qualifications, to point to the irony of thier first vote because the guy is black and now faced giving thier vote to one of the few who can clean up this mess who happens to be black.
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Re: Surge
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2011, 07:22:41 PM »

He's a twenty first century Andrew Jackson.

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Re: Surge
« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2011, 08:32:17 PM »
“distraction so that many people won’t focus on the failed policies of the Obama administration.”

Yup.  Politics of division, an old Lefty ploy. 

More comments at the link, including Nasty Pelosi doubling-down on full-retard!

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-cain-occupy-wall-street-20111009,0,972806.story
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Re: Surge
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2011, 11:03:49 AM »
That was great.


I really hate the analysis Crowley tried to use about the regression of taxes.  If a poor person and a rich person both buy a blouse they both pay the same sales tax.  That sounds fair to me.  That one earns more than the other shouldn't enter into it at all.  I go into a store I don't think the goods should be priced based on my income and priced differently for someone else who has more or less than me.   ::gaah::


At work when we'd all go out to lunch together the bill would come and we'd usually just divided it up evenly--no one ever suggested that be divide it up based on everyone's income. Everyone's obligation to the restaurant was pretty much the same.
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Re: Surge
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2011, 01:55:07 PM »
The Left is trying to maintain the narrative that a tax system that is not "progressive", is "regressive".

I don't see anybody but Cain out there challenging that lie - probably because he's the only one who's been bold enough to put a solution on the table, and effectively defend it at every turn. The more they harp on the "regressiveness" of 9/9/9, the more he has a chance to explain why it's not regressive, and so far, he's doing a bang-up job of defending his plan.
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Re: Surge
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2011, 02:27:25 PM »
Media Working to Tell Us Who We Want for President



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First Bachmann was the front-runner for nominee. She was all over the news with her victory in Iowa, the conservative news stations praised her, the liberal news stations finding faults with her, and so on.

It took a couple of weeks for Bachmann’s fame to fade out. Rick Perry threw his hair in the ring. Suddenly the media were all over him. The polls showed huge support for him. The Republican leadership was excited. He had all the support he needed, he beat all his rivals the moment he entered the race, Texas prospered under his governorship, he was an experienced leader, he was a “formidable campaigner”. . . for another couple of weeks.

Then it was all gone. Suddenly we were back to Romney who “recovered” and now lead the field again. Again the polls showed how the Republicans just wanted Romney and no one else. Another couple of weeks.

Then Herman Cain appeared almost of nowhere and rose from 4-6% to 38% within a couple of days. He is now the darling of all Republicans, and the polls support him, while Perry and Romney are far back. Bachmann is not even mentioned anymore.

Let me try to understand this. The Republican voters are a bunch of immature imbeciles that change their loyalty to their candidates – and therefore the principles that those candidates represent – every two weeks. And they do it in large groups: large enough to make a candidate skyrocket overnight and then fall like a meteor in two weeks. Since the candidates don’t seem to change their principles every two weeks, then the preferences of the voters that participate in those polls must be based on something else but principles: for example, personal appeal, or just momentous whims. Or at least that’s what the media is trying to tell us."

I don’t buy it.



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Re: Surge
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2011, 02:53:08 PM »
I don't buy it either JPat.

To my way of thinking, it's not really all that difficult to explain the apparent fickleness.

The GOP establishment is trying to force-feed Romney. The GOP electorate is desperate to find a true conservative to beat Romney and run against Obama. Each of the "true conservatives" have had their moment in the spotlight, and have either failed the vetting process, or harmed their credibility enough for voters to explore another candidate. The debate performances, straw-polls, and stump-speeches have been prime movers of public opinion, fueled like never before by the Internet, the never-more-instant availability of video, and online punditocracy.

I'm not surprised at all that the conservative "Not-Romney's" are each getting a turn in the spotlight. The scary part is there's not a lot of depth, which means we'll see if the electorate determines that none of them are sufficient to beat Romney and Obama. Romney may emerge by attrition.
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Re: Surge
« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2011, 03:00:41 PM »
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Yep, just like 2008! ::doh::
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Re: Surge
« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2011, 03:34:46 PM »
Was that a salt lick next to her chair?
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