Topic: 2012 Republican Landslide Victory?

[BMG]

Here's an interesting dissection of the upcoming 2012 election's possible outcome. As most futurist political prognosticators have been buzzing about for the last 7 months or so, this one seems to be pointing toward a landslide victory for Republicans...but with some qualifying 'ifs' concerning independents.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/morning-jay-without-independents-obama-has-no-chance-victory_595834.html

This article also notes that; "...the biggest jump has been in the number of people who identify with neither party, which according to the most recent Gallup poll is 46 percent."

I'm of the personal belief that people have left the Republican party and registered as 'independent' because they are sick of all the 'republican establishment elites' controlling everything and pushing the party to moderation. I like to call these elites 'Progressive Republicans' and in fact, they were the exact reason why, during GW's years I quit the Republican Party and registered Independent. After Obama was elected though I realized the err I'd made. By registering as an Independent I had voluntarily removed my voice from the Primary process (in my State you can't vote in a primary unless you belong to the party that the primary is for), and thus I had to swallow the bitter pill foisted upon me by the 'republican establishment elites', otherwise known as the progressive republican, McCain.

I think that by ejecting these elites from the party a hefty percentage of these independents would return to the party, but that's just my arm-chair analysis which is only supported by my own anecdotal evidence.

[Libertas]

Heh, Weekly Standard...Bill Kristol...friends of Mitt.  Yeah, I can see them hoping for a landslide...they'll need all the help they can get if Mittens is the nominee!

I think your take on the GOP & Indy's is right...I plan on ejecting deadwood in my precinct and if enough do that I think a more energized conservative base in the GOP could get new blood into office and I think Indy's (like many of us) are looking for reasons to vote for someone, not just a reason not to vote for the other guy!

[Pandora]

I'm of the personal belief that people have left the Republican party and registered as 'independent' because they are sick of all the 'republican establishment elites' controlling everything and pushing the party to moderation. I like to call these elites 'Progressive Republicans' and in fact, they were the exact reason why, during GW's years I quit the Republican Party and registered Independent.

Same here, in '06, over that POS Amnesty Bill, and because until last November, we had no viable Republican Party in my county.  We have open primaries in NC.

[Delnorin]

I'm of the personal belief that people have left the Republican party and registered as 'independent' because they are sick of all the 'republican establishment elites' controlling everything and pushing the party to moderation. I like to call these elites 'Progressive Republicans' and in fact, they were the exact reason why, during GW's years I quit the Republican Party and registered Independent.

Same here, in '06, over that POS Amnesty Bill, and because until last November, we had no viable Republican Party in my county.  We have open primaries in NC.

My very first election was when the 1st George ran (not Washington.. Bush).. and I voted for him.  He was elected.  Wow.. I thought I had some serious influence.  

Every vote since has been Republican.  At the beginning it was mostly a moral vote (against Abortion).. but as I evolved as learned and opened my eyes to the Conservative Principals (which I had always lived by, just never new they were organized under something called Conservative Principals) I continued to Vote Republican.

So... years pass.. I find myself in Baghdad, Iraq during an election to choose between McCain and O'Bummer.

After getting my feet back in the States I registered Independent and don't plan on coming back until they return to Conservative Principals.
I will  not vote for a communist that says he's just like me.  BullS$$T !!

Post Modification:  Made me laugh.  I was roommates with BMG in college that first year I voted.  We put up a huge computer printer paper across our window that everyone on campus could see.. it read "We Want Bush".  Strangely.. the girls in the dorm across the parking lot started flashing after that.  

[BMG]

I remember not really caring much for politics or even knowing the difference between a democrat or a Republican - this was during the Clinton years. What really changed my mind about the whole thing was when I was watching the news coverage of Clinton's impeachment proceedings and listening to him saying, "...well, that depends upon what the definition of 'is' is..." and I said to myself, "That guy is as crooked as the day is long. What party does he belong to?" That right there was the moment I became a Republican because I figured someone that could lie like that was just vile and that was the one thing that jumped right out at me. Right about that time I was working on campus (at the Cisler Center Del, you remember that place?) and I was listening to one of the 'managers' (I forget his name but I think he worked down in the bowling alley) that worked there raving and cursing some guy on the radio named Rush Limbaugh. I had no idea who Rush was...but this manager guys was a liberal and I knew I didn't like him...so I tuned into Rush the next day and the rest is history...funny how a couple liberal idiots making stupid remarks shaped my whole political outlook.

@Del, do you remember shortly after the girls next door started flashing...we printed off the phone number to our 'suite' and hung that in the window too? lol

[Delnorin]

@Del, do you remember shortly after the girls next door started flashing...we printed off the phone number to our 'suite' and hung that in the window too? lol

Oh my goodness yes.. that is so hilarious.  We were so insane crazy.

[BMG]

 

[LadyVirginia]

worked there raving and cursing some guy on the radio named Rush Limbaugh. I had no idea who Rush was...but this manager guys was a liberal and I knew I didn't like him...so I tuned into Rush the next day and the rest is history...funny how a couple liberal idiots making stupid remarks shaped my whole political outlook.

The 1st Clinton election drove me to listening to Rush. 

[Delnorin]

The 1st Clinton election drove me to listening to Rush. 

I joined the USAF in 1991 and it was that summer when I got stationed at Sheppard AFB, TX that I was introduced to Rush Limbaugh... that's all she wrote.  Every single day from Noon-3pm I listened.  Hiding out in the air conditioned laboratory at the waste water treatment plant on base listening to Rush.

That's when that turd Ross Perot ruined everything and caused us to end up with Clinton.

Within a month after Clinton took office.. every single training mission, training class, training trip was cancelled.  All the ways to advance your career in the military (other than on your knees) was flushed down the toilet because the Military was in the process of being neutered.  SUCKED being active duty at that time. (Perhaps why I only lasted 4 years, 8 months and got so sick of it I had to get out).

Anyway... seems like we all found Rush the same year.

[Pandora]

Took me a bit longer -- '95/'96.  Found him by accident too; wasn't as if I hadn't heard of him, just didn't go looking for anything else until I got sick of the pop music and starting browsing the radio dial.  Found Dr. Laura shortly after.  She .... saved ... my life.

[Sectionhand]

You can't keep the Republican Party conservative by leaving it . I also don't believe that there's anything like a "progressive conservative" anymore than I believe there's such an animal as a "communist capitalist" .

[Alphabet Soup]

I had lost my job and took a laborer job at a construction site to put skittles on the table. Usually the sites would feature country music blaring from the boom-boxes but the site superintendent liked Rush and so that's what was playing. Truth be known I would have turned on some apolitical rock station if I had had my way so having it force-fed was an eye-opener.

It seemed like so much of what Rush said was outrageous - and there was no Internet (at least for me) so no way of checking his assertions. But he was so cocky and so confident of his position that it induced me to start asking questions. At the time, in my neck of the woods, if you were a conservative, you did so quietly. Like I've said elsewhere, I've always considered myself a practicing conservative, voting republican as a matter of necessity, and immune to the bullsh!t propaganda of the leftists.

Hearing someone articulate how I interpreted the world around me - and do it so well - made me a quick convert to ditto-head.

[Libertas]

First POTUS election I participated in was 1980, what a year!

Been listening to Rush since like late 80's.  I was much more feisty back then I think...the caller abortions, the parodies...people at the bank I worked often looked at me in the breakroom wondering what I was listening to...had my earphones in and tears rolling down my face while my stomach and shoulders rocked with spasms of hilarity.  I still like Rush a lot, but in his prime and especially during the Clinton years he was a hoot!  Knowledgeable and funny as heck all in one package.  Dude had one of the rare jobs I could actually envy!

[BMG]

Quite right Sectionhand. That's why I am a registered Republican now - I'm even a sitting member of my local Republican Executive Committee. After we were 'blessed' with McCain I came to that epiphany shortly thereafter. It's time to drag the Republican party kicking and screaming back to the conservative side of the fence.

[Delnorin]

You can't keep the Republican Party conservative by leaving it . I also don't believe that there's anything like a "progressive conservative" anymore than I believe there's such an animal as a "communist capitalist" .

I can neither keep the Republican Party conservative by backing their socialist candidates either.  The Republican party stopped being conservative.  I remain conservative.  It was not logical to remain in a party that no longer represented my political beliefs.  I did not change.. the Republican party changed.

Rather than say I left the Republican Party let me put it a slightly different way.

I was a conservative on the conservative bus.  The bus stopped and said, "Okay.. we're no longer a conservative bus; we're not a socialist bus.. get out if you don't like it."  And they left me at the side of the road and carried on with their new views.

[LadyVirginia]

First POTUS election I participated in was 1980, what a year!

Been listening to Rush since like late 80's.  I was much more feisty back then I think...the caller abortions, the parodies...people at the bank I worked often looked at me in the breakroom wondering what I was listening to...had my earphones in and tears rolling down my face while my stomach and shoulders rocked with spasms of hilarity.  I still like Rush a lot, but in his prime and especially during the Clinton years he was a hoot!  Knowledgeable and funny as heck all in one package.  Dude had one of the rare jobs I could actually envy!

I can still hear the Ross Perot parody "They're Coming to Take Me Away!!!   

(that and the Algore Ball of Fire are probably my favorites)

[Libertas]

Forest Gore.