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Re: A Deadly Double Standard
« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2011, 09:17:04 PM »
On the contrary, conservatives are winning this war.  The lamestream media are in fact Baghdad Bob claiming that the Americans are losing the battle. All of them are unhinged doing and saying the goofiest sh*t proves my point. Just doubling down much like comrade usurper Obamakov. They have lost their lock on information and it's driving them bat sh*t crazy. Polls obviously skewed, making sh*t up, projection of their own failings and misgivings, it's all there.  ::bashing::
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« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2011, 09:41:05 PM »
Good commentary. You make a lot of good points. I see it as a propaganda war, and conservatives seem to be losing it. My instincts tell me that we would be losing it much worse without alternative media such as this Internet thingie and talk radio. I believe that there has always been a media bias in my lifetime, but up until recently it was much more subtle. Now they don't even bother to hide it anymore, but then they still claim it doesn't exist.

How do we fight it? By getting the truth out. How do we get the truth out? A number of ways. The Tea Party has been very valuable in waking a lot of people up, but there are still a lot who are apathetic. We need to get those people interested and informed.

Clearly, liberals will do anything to protect their interests. When we have the DOJ not prosecuting voter intimidation, we know we are going to have a long uphill climb against these radicals who control most of the media. The only long term solution is to vote these people out of office. My hope is that most people can look at the Tea Party and these union radicals and see both for who they really are. If not, we are in big trouble.

Good points all Janny. I think that the state of the propaganda war is somewhere between winning and losing. It seems like the tide is turning against the Left, but that just means we aren't getting overrun by lies at every turn like we always have in the past. The lies and liars are still formidable and entrenched. The Tea Party has definitely been effective at countering the lies, in spite of the false narrative, and I think the awareness is growing.

And your last point is a must. If the people cannot discern the difference between what they see in the Tea Party and what they see in these union bastards, then how can we hope that the people will ever come to the proper electoral decision? They HAVE to be seen by the majority as the aggressors.
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« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2011, 10:10:34 PM »
Good commentary. You make a lot of good points. I see it as a propaganda war, and conservatives seem to be losing it. My instincts tell me that we would be losing it much worse without alternative media such as this Internet thingie and talk radio. I believe that there has always been a media bias in my lifetime, but up until recently it was much more subtle. Now they don't even bother to hide it anymore, but then they still claim it doesn't exist.

How do we fight it? By getting the truth out. How do we get the truth out? A number of ways. The Tea Party has been very valuable in waking a lot of people up, but there are still a lot who are apathetic. We need to get those people interested and informed.

Clearly, liberals will do anything to protect their interests. When we have the DOJ not prosecuting voter intimidation, we know we are going to have a long uphill climb against these radicals who control most of the media. The only long term solution is to vote these people out of office. My hope is that most people can look at the Tea Party and these union radicals and see both for who they really are. If not, we are in big trouble.

Good points all Janny. I think that the state of the propaganda war is somewhere between winning and losing. It seems like the tide is turning against the Left, but that just means we aren't getting overrun by lies at every turn like we always have in the past. The lies and liars are still formidable and entrenched. The Tea Party has definitely been effective at countering the lies, in spite of the false narrative, and I think the awareness is growing.

And your last point is a must. If the people cannot discern the difference between what they see in the Tea Party and what they see in these union bastards, then how can we hope that the people will ever come to the proper electoral decision? They HAVE to be seen by the majority as the aggressors.




  I think the only word I would change in that whole statement is Aggressors I would rather think that Defenders would be more what were looking for. Aggressors can only move in one direction where defenders are free to go in all directions and be backed by people that don't even know that you're being aggressive.

  Agressive with a smile so to speak.(maybe I'm nuts)
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« Reply #23 on: March 04, 2011, 10:39:10 PM »
Yep.  Nuts like a fox.
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« Reply #24 on: March 04, 2011, 10:48:35 PM »
Yep.  Nuts like a fox.

  I kind of got that from A Beck show where he was talking about the Fabian Socialist  and Shaw(the author) said the Mussolini was too mean looking and nobody liked liked him but if he would just smile nothing would have changed except people would like him better.And that's the approach we might think about taking WHEN it suits us.


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« Reply #25 on: March 04, 2011, 11:05:52 PM »
Anything like:  be nice, smile, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet?
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« Reply #26 on: March 04, 2011, 11:12:31 PM »
Anything like:  be nice, smile, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet?

 YUP! ;D
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« Reply #27 on: March 04, 2011, 11:14:54 PM »

Heh, I read that somewhere before.


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« Reply #28 on: March 05, 2011, 09:39:37 AM »
IDP you are a very gifted and good writer.  You and others here do an outstanding job expressing how I feel in words much better than I can.

One other thing I would like to add that from my experiences living here in the cesspools of liberalism is that many lefties are very angry and unhappy people on the whole. Dennis Prager does a good job of explaining this .  This can be backed up by research done by pew and Arthur Brooks. One of the reasons I feel many lefties are not, I do not know how to put this nicely................ ::whatgives:: as radiant in the faces as conservatives, is because their anger and what seems hatred for our conservative values is worn on their faces.

Yes there are exceptions as my neighbors who are passionately liberal would do anything for you. They are very nice and pleasant to be around.  However, they seem to me to be the exception not the rule around this area anyway.

I have had many encounters with lefties especially living here and if they do not agree with your views seem ready in an instant to explode like a hand grenade, in fact they to me are as human hand grenades.

One quick example I will share to reinforce your points. A couple years ago I was moving snow at work with a skid steer, I was doing another project for a few minutes and I left the machine idling. This man approaches me yelling and screaming to the effect that somehow by leaving the skid steer idling I was adding CO2 to the atmosphere and was contributing to flooding in Nicaragua of all places. I told him I did not believe in man made global warming and if there is it is because of sun storms. He went nuts and off on me for a couple minutes, he poked me in the chest and was shaking with anger. I did my best not to disrespect him and laugh. In stature he was much smaller than I and there was no way I would have lifted a finger to hurt the man as I could not see him at all causing me any bodily harm. I went form laughter to sadness for the man……………. to experience how someone could become so hostile and angered over something so small, trivial and insignificant as having a machine idling. I simply said to him, Sir I disagree with your views and told him I would be happy to give you a number that you could call to complain about me. He left in anger shaking his head and believe I saw tears coming form his eyes.
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« Reply #29 on: March 05, 2011, 10:34:51 AM »
OK have to type this again. :-\ Something happened when trying to post the first time. I feel that the Conservatives and Tea partiers are the new version of the European Jews. Liberals are trying their hardest to blame all of the country's ills on us. When haven't we gone a day with some blowhard blaming Bush or us for the country's problems. We even get blamed for the problems in the world.
Hitler and Mussolini blamed the Jews for their country's problems. Now it is us. The tea party came about to speak as a voice for the conservative principles, since most conservatives were sitting quietly on the sidelines. We have been blamed for the Gabby Gifford nut job shooting when all information showed it to be to the contrary. Now we are being demonized as the equivalent as angry violent mobs all the while the real mobs are given a pass or not being reported. If it is reported, we are still to blame for their actions. They say we are to blame for them taking these violent actions. I fear that it will get worse before it gets better. If we don't watch out, the socialists will slowly take away our rights and herd us into dhimnitude status.
We have to not back down on what is going on. We realize that if we just keep our mouths shut it will only marginalize us into second class citizen status. Unfortunately, there are still millions of conservatives standing back and not investigating what is really going on. In some ways, I feel that subconsciously, we won't stand for this eroding of our rights and the slippery slope that was created in Germany. We can't and won't be sheep. If we do, then I fear for what our country will become.
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« Reply #30 on: March 05, 2011, 12:00:40 PM »
On the contrary, conservatives are winning this war.  The lamestream media are in fact Baghdad Bob claiming that the Americans are losing the battle. All of them are unhinged doing and saying the goofiest sh*t proves my point. Just doubling down much like comrade usurper Obamakov. They have lost their lock on information and it's driving them bat sh*t crazy. Polls obviously skewed, making sh*t up, projection of their own failings and misgivings, it's all there.  ::bashing::

Your points are valid, but I also think that this is evidence that they are winning the propaganda war, as well as that they are losing it. If they were not successful at propping him up, then Obama's approval ratings would be much lower than they are.
The strongest evidence that WE are winning the propaganda war is the election results from last November! That is what has them so angry! They are always at their angriest and most defensive when they are out of power! They had all three branches and could pretty much pass whatever they wanted. Now the house Reps. Have the clout and the vitriol and lies are worse than ever!

The people who are paying attention enough to go out and VOTE are the ones we need to focus on. Wake them up to the reality of what is going on.

Yes, they have lost their lock on information, but there are still way too many robots who get their "news" only from the alphabet networks and are thus woefully uninformed!

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Re: A Deadly Double Standard
« Reply #31 on: March 05, 2011, 12:12:05 PM »
Those as such operate with what I describe as a refusal of information-delivery block.  It's not that they're uninformed, it's just that so much of what they "know" is wrong and they can cite chapter and verse, from various and sundry websites, to back it up.

These ones are unreachable by ordinary means; one can rearrange the words and phrases, supply facts and data, just so many times and make no progress at all because they haven't reasoned themselves into their positions, so they won't be reasoned out of them.

Practically speaking, there really is a single standard, which is anything that works toward demeaning and destroying Western civilization and mores will be employed, self-contradictory or not.  It is those contradictions that leave us observing there are one set of rules for the right and another for the left, when the only rule is there are no rules, there is just a goal.
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« Reply #32 on: March 05, 2011, 12:24:07 PM »
...Practically speaking, there really is a single standard, which is anything that works toward demeaning and destroying Western civilization and mores will be employed, self-contradictory or not.  It is those contradictions that leave us observing there are one set of rules for the right and another for the left, when the only rule is there are no rules, there is just a goal.

Yes. Aside from the intended destruction inherent in the lies and misinformation, the observation and assimilation of the contradictions as reality by the public are inherently destructive in themselves.

Think about how they've employed this to undermine confidence in the electoral process. They've accused Republicans of election theft, while employing every possible means at their disposal to do exactly that - barely bothering to hide their methods. Aside from elections being stolen and people being disenfranchised, the general public's confidence in the results of elections has been eroded, which also serves the destructive agenda of the Left.
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« Reply #33 on: March 05, 2011, 12:36:51 PM »
"By any means necessary" is the only guiding "principle" of the Left. That's it. There's nothing more to it.

Hence their current flirtations with the radical Islamists. Fundamentalist Muslims hold beliefs that could not be more contradictory to the espoused beliefs of Western liberals, so how can the Left align itself with such people? It's because the Muslim cause is just another expedient, a convenient club with which to bash Western Civilization over the head. They are able to form these ephemeral alliances without a sense of cognitive dissonance because they don't really believe in anything except the destruction of "Western capitalism".

I used to wonder at what could possibly motivate such people, given the ample history we have that shows our way of life -- the one they are so keen to destroy -- has provided the best standard of living for the most people (only in America does living in "poverty" make you more likely to be obese). That question has led me back to truths I once dismissed as simplistic fables: they are the agents of evil. They have rejected any notion of supreme moral authority and have instead elevated themselves to that role. They indulge this vanity leaving nihilism in their wake.
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« Reply #34 on: March 05, 2011, 01:01:44 PM »
Pandora, I know the people you are talking about. Whenever I make the mistake of clicking on a "news" story on Yahoo (they are exclusively AP driven, it seems) and look at the comments I see this people. They spout the DNC talking points as facts, and they clearly believe that they are the informed ones and anyone who doesn't agree with them is an idiot. I think many of them are PAID by the Dems to promote that propaganda. They aren't the ones I am talking about. They are unreachable. I am talking about the 70 year old couple who watched Huntley and Brinkley way back when, and still don't realize that they are being taken for a ride by Brokaw and Couric. They are reachable, and they have paid taxes all their lives, they have lived through the Cold War, and they can see, easily, if given the real facts, what Obama is doing and trying to do to our country.

There are definitely those who are way too far gone to ever get through to. We need not focus on them.

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« Reply #35 on: March 05, 2011, 01:05:07 PM »
"By any means necessary" is the only guiding "principle" of the Left. That's it. There's nothing more to it.



BINGO! We have a winner!

The end justifies the means is their motto! Hence they can lie straight-faced, accuse conservatives of doing everything they are doing themselves, and not get called on it by the like-minded people in the media!

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« Reply #36 on: March 05, 2011, 01:08:47 PM »
"By any means necessary" is the only guiding "principle" of the Left. That's it. There's nothing more to it.



BINGO! We have a winner!

The end justifies the means is their motto! Hence they can lie straight-faced, accuse conservatives of doing everything they are doing themselves, and not get called on it by the like-minded people in the media!

Yup. They barely try to hide it anymore, and when they get called on it, it's an annoyance or inconvenience. The need to be seen as credible is now a peripheral concern for these people.
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« Reply #37 on: March 05, 2011, 01:14:28 PM »
Think about how they've employed this to undermine confidence in the electoral process. They've accused Republicans of election theft, while employing every possible means at their disposal to do exactly that - barely bothering to hide their methods. Aside from elections being stolen and people being disenfranchised, the general public's confidence in the results of elections has been eroded, which also serves the destructive agenda of the Left.

I will never forget the irony of AlGore standing up after the 2000 election  and screeching "Count all the votes!" while at the same time he has is lawyer goons in court trying to keep all the military ballots from being counted.  Then the liberal newspapers actually did the recounts that Gore demanded, and Gore still lost. Yet there are still liberals who claim that the Supreme Court handed the presidency to Bush.  ::bashing::

These people don't care about truth or fairness. Only about power.

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« Reply #38 on: March 05, 2011, 01:17:06 PM »
Pandora, I know the people you are talking about. Whenever I make the mistake of clicking on a "news" story on Yahoo (they are exclusively AP driven, it seems) and look at the comments I see this people. They spout the DNC talking points as facts, and they clearly believe that they are the informed ones and anyone who doesn't agree with them is an idiot. I think many of them are PAID by the Dems to promote that propaganda. They aren't the ones I am talking about. They are unreachable. I am talking about the 70 year old couple who watched Huntley and Brinkley way back when, and still don't realize that they are being taken for a ride by Brokaw and Couric. They are reachable, and they have paid taxes all their lives, they have lived through the Cold War, and they can see, easily, if given the real facts, what Obama is doing and trying to do to our country.

There are definitely those who are way too far gone to ever get through to. We need not focus on them.

Ask IDP about his father.

Then, there is the matter of my neighbor, not 70, though, whom I've described here before, who lives one way and votes another and n'er the twain shall meet.
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« Reply #39 on: March 05, 2011, 01:26:27 PM »
Ask IDP about his father.

Okay!

IDP, what about your father?

My mother-in-law was a life-long liberal Democrat. Later in life, while she was still working in the teaching profession, in a Chicago suburb, she had a series of experiences that woke her up to reality. One particular one was when she hired a woman as a clerical worker. The woman was a black woman from a nearby community in Chicago. She was well qualified and my m-i-l was delighted to give her the opportunity at a decent paying job. Well, the next day, the woman came back to her and told her that couldn't accept the job, after all, because her family had told her she was being "too white." My mother-in-law was floored. She'd believed for all those years that the black people only wanted opportunities to be treated equally and get ahead. She gradually opened her eyes to the reality of the welfare state, after that.

My mother in law is now retired, at age 76, and watches Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly and listens to Rush.


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