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Is anti-semitism going main stream?
« on: October 17, 2011, 05:13:29 PM »
When did it become alright to be anti-semitic?

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What accounts for the appalling acceptability of overt anti-Semitism these days?  While fashionable on university campuses for years, the norm in France for as long as we can remember, and de rigueur among Muslims throughout the Middle East, how have we come to a place here in the United States where protestors embraced by the American Left and our media can openly scream anti-Jewish epithets and carry signs with hateful slogans indicting the Jews of the world for all manner of crimes against humanity?

Keep in mind that the President, the Vice President, Nancy Pelosi ("bless them") and the mainstream media have all embraced the cause  and behavior of the Occupy Wall Street protestors and their copycats around the country.  The Tea Party, these same supporters railed, were "racist" (they are not), "violent" (they are not), and profane, which they most certainly are not.  But  it appears that our President, Vice President, Speaker of the House and our mainstream media  have no problem with the distinct anti-Semitic character of these protests and might even share their sentiments.
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Re: Is anti-semitism going main stream?
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2011, 05:23:10 PM »
With what open OWS anti-Semitism is going on in NYC, the NY Jews, at least, need to wake the hell up.  History says apeasement doesn't work.

I've been making note of this for while now and it worries me as much as anything else that in lieu of the Jews stepping up in self-defense, some Christians are going to have to do it for them, and that will be the spark that sets off the conflagration.
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Re: Is anti-semitism going main stream?
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2011, 05:25:10 PM »
When did it become alright to be anti-semitic?

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and might even share their sentiments.


Of course they do--that's why they can accuse others of bigoty and racism because they know what lurks in their own hearts.. It's called projection...

Pelosi, Obama et al think they're so special, so unique.  They're no different than any other hater that's come down the pike.


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Re: Is anti-semitism going main stream?
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2011, 03:58:27 AM »

Pelosi, Obama et al ....  They're no different than any other hater that's come down the pike.




And not half as smart .

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Re: Is anti-semitism going main stream?
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2011, 06:57:04 AM »
Speaking of not so smart...

American Jews here on the democrat side of the fence better wake up and smell the hate or their fate will be little better than their predecessors in pre-war Germany!  It's people on their own side of the fence that want to come after them!

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Re: Is anti-semitism going main stream?
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2011, 10:20:27 AM »
The Jewish community here in the US is closely related to the Black community in this regard.

Look, the democrat party openly and readily accepts and supports Planned Parenthood which was founded by Margaret Sanger (originally under the name, National Birth Control League). She was a socialist who's political and eugenic views were shared and even championed by Adolph Hitler. I've read that her works were highly regarded by Adolph Hitler (and indeed one of her board members, Lathrop Stoddard,  went to Germany and met with Hitler personally). I have absolutely no doubt whatsoever that the democrat party seeks to carry on where Hitler left off if they're ever afforded the chance. In the meantime however, keeping minorities (like Jews and blacks) poor and mired in socialist garbage keeps them pliable and ripe for eugenic-style assaults while allowing the democrats to hide behind their 'righteous indignation' that anyone should curtail the 'freedoms' of 'choice' and all of their other social experiment schemes that are specifically designed to keep minorities poor and off balance.

How's that saying go? Keep your friends close...and your enemies closer? I believe that the democrat party has been practicing this for generations in regards to the minorities that call themselves democrats.
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Re: Is anti-semitism going main stream?
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2011, 10:46:31 AM »

This ominous stuff is too obvious.  These participants are delusional we are watching history repeat itself.

 

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Re: Is anti-semitism going main stream?
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2011, 11:24:46 AM »
There has always been a latent fascist faction in this nation, one which shares the views of some of the most disgusting creatures in history, and the seldom uttered truth is that they have always lurked in large part in the dank corners of the left end of the political spectrum.  Abortion, cleansing, theft...the OWS crowd is just the latest gathering providing an outlet for this trash to spout their hate...and it is being cheered on by the likes of Obama, Pelosi and other high-ranking ilk!

People whose eyes have never been opened better start opening them!
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Re: Is anti-semitism going main stream?
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2011, 08:31:35 PM »
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/11/07/uh-oh-obama-sarkozy-caught-on-open-mic-grumbling-about-netanyahu/

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4145266,00.html

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The bad news? This is an especially stupid distraction on the eve of the new UN report confirming western fears about Iran’s nuclear weaponization program. The good news? Our new Islamist allies in Libya will be thrilled.

    "According to a Monday report in the French website “Arret sur Images,” after facing reporters for a G20 press conference on Thursday, the two presidents retired to a private room, to further discuss the matters of the day…

    The conversation then drifted to Netanyahu, at which time Sarkozy declared: “I cannot stand him. He is a liar.” According to the report, Obama replied: “You’re fed up with him, but I have to deal with him every day!”…

    The communication faux pas went unnoticed for several minutes, during which the conversation between the two heads of state – which quickly reverted to other matters – was all but open to members the press, who were still in possession of headsets provided by the Elysée for the sake of simultaneous translation during the G20 press conference…

    The surprising lack of coverage may be explained by a report alleging that reporters present at the event were requested to sign an agreement to keep mum on the subject of the embarrassing comments."

Here’s the original story at Arret sur Images. I’ve never heard of that site so I have no sense of how credible it is. (French readers, repondez s’il vous plait.) The idea of The One badmouthing Bibi is completely plausible, though. Remember when he allegedly humiliated Netanyahu at the White House at a meeting in 2010, and then when Netanyahu humiliated O right back with that lecture in the Oval Office back in May about Israel’s borders? There’s no love lost here, although electoral concerns (if nothing else) will keep Obama a very willing partner with Israel for the next year. Philip Klein asks a good question, though:

    "All the reporters at G20 ignored it except for obscure French website? Hot mic and no one recorded?"

I can buy that no one recorded it, and I can buy that some reporters would go so far into the tank that they’d sign a nondisclosure statement, but surely someone in the room would have found a scoop this juicy too irresistible and would have leaked it. The exchange between O and Sarkozy supposedly happened on Thursday; it took four days for news to break about an explosive “hot mic” exchange between the presidents of the United States and France about the prime minister of Israel? C’mon.

Anyone know if Arret is trustworthy? And if so, I want to know which reporters were in the room and refused to report.

And to think the Jewish voters out there will likely; A) either never hear about this or B) seemingly aren't concerned with their own self-interest and don't particularly care if they're on the side of the political party that is quickly starting to follow in the footsteps of 1930's Germany.
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Re: Is anti-semitism going main stream?
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2011, 09:47:36 PM »

Total mystification at how such an intelligent group
of people can be enthusiastic advocates of their own
self destruction.


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Re: Is anti-semitism going main stream?
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2011, 09:54:55 PM »

Total mystification at how such an intelligent group
of people can be enthusiastic advocates of their own
self destruction.



I share your mystification.  Caucasians exist in the same state of advocacy...  when they're not in denial.
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Re: Is anti-semitism going main stream?
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2011, 10:51:56 AM »
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/11/07/uh-oh-obama-sarkozy-caught-on-open-mic-grumbling-about-netanyahu/

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4145266,00.html

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The bad news? This is an especially stupid distraction on the eve of the new UN report confirming western fears about Iran’s nuclear weaponization program. The good news? Our new Islamist allies in Libya will be thrilled.

    "According to a Monday report in the French website “Arret sur Images,” after facing reporters for a G20 press conference on Thursday, the two presidents retired to a private room, to further discuss the matters of the day…

    The conversation then drifted to Netanyahu, at which time Sarkozy declared: “I cannot stand him. He is a liar.” According to the report, Obama replied: “You’re fed up with him, but I have to deal with him every day!”…

    The communication faux pas went unnoticed for several minutes, during which the conversation between the two heads of state – which quickly reverted to other matters – was all but open to members the press, who were still in possession of headsets provided by the Elysée for the sake of simultaneous translation during the G20 press conference…

    The surprising lack of coverage may be explained by a report alleging that reporters present at the event were requested to sign an agreement to keep mum on the subject of the embarrassing comments."

Here’s the original story at Arret sur Images. I’ve never heard of that site so I have no sense of how credible it is. (French readers, repondez s’il vous plait.) The idea of The One badmouthing Bibi is completely plausible, though. Remember when he allegedly humiliated Netanyahu at the White House at a meeting in 2010, and then when Netanyahu humiliated O right back with that lecture in the Oval Office back in May about Israel’s borders? There’s no love lost here, although electoral concerns (if nothing else) will keep Obama a very willing partner with Israel for the next year. Philip Klein asks a good question, though:

    "All the reporters at G20 ignored it except for obscure French website? Hot mic and no one recorded?"

I can buy that no one recorded it, and I can buy that some reporters would go so far into the tank that they’d sign a nondisclosure statement, but surely someone in the room would have found a scoop this juicy too irresistible and would have leaked it. The exchange between O and Sarkozy supposedly happened on Thursday; it took four days for news to break about an explosive “hot mic” exchange between the presidents of the United States and France about the prime minister of Israel? C’mon.

Anyone know if Arret is trustworthy? And if so, I want to know which reporters were in the room and refused to report.

And to think the Jewish voters out there will likely; A) either never hear about this or B) seemingly aren't concerned with their own self-interest and don't particularly care if they're on the side of the political party that is quickly starting to follow in the footsteps of 1930's Germany.

The first I heard of this was through Reuters . And let's not forget that Stymie has snubbed all of them at one time or another .

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Re: Is anti-semitism going main stream?
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2011, 09:34:27 AM »
http://pjmedia.com/zombie/2011/11/09/fresh-anti-semitic-videos-coming-out-of-occupy-wall-street/

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Urban Infidel, the independent New York blogger who made a splash with her earlier Occupy Wall Street coverage, re-visited Zuccotti Park yesterday and with practically no effort captured on video the kind of conversations going on down there that the mainstream media just won’t show you.
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Re: Is anti-semitism going main stream?
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2011, 12:06:58 PM »
Does anyone understand why, in times of strife and turmoil, the Jews are eventually always targeted?  I don't understand it.  Historically, it's always the Jews as the scapegoat when one is required.

And that idiot lunatic of a "preacher":  'if the Jews had ovens, they'd put palestinians in them'!  The guy feels perfectly safe saying this out loud on a public street when he needs a punch in the head.
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Re: Is anti-semitism going main stream?
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Does anyone understand why, in times of strife and turmoil, the Jews are eventually always targeted?  I don't understand it.

Sorry Pan, I can't help ya...'cause I haven't a clue myself.

But I find it even sadder that the 'idiot lunatic preacher' is VERY likely a democrat voter saying this garbage...and the Jews of this country overwhelmingly support the democrats. That simple fact mystifies me much more than why the Jews are targeted in the first place. It's like a sheep voting with a pack of wolves to have mutton for supper...
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Re: Is anti-semitism going main stream?
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2011, 06:03:32 PM »
Does anyone understand why, in times of strife and turmoil, the Jews are eventually always targeted?  I don't understand it.  Historically, it's always the Jews as the scapegoat when one is required.

And that idiot lunatic of a "preacher":  'if the Jews had ovens, they'd put palestinians in them'!  The guy feels perfectly safe saying this out loud on a public street when he needs a punch in the head.

My theory (based upon a little history):

The reason for the Jews always being a ready target for pogroms is simple, really.  Jews, as a rule, always lived in their own enclaves, ghettos/shtetls/etc.  They lived together in settlements/towns as do many American Jews live together in places like Williamsburg, Brooklyn or Spring Valley and Kiryas Joel in Rockland County, outside New York City.  Jewish life is about community, no different than the Amish, but in making such living arrangements, they make themselves into 'the other', and it is easy to get worked up over and attack 'the other'.  It just needs the right match.

Now that said, being gathered into their own little hamlets of hovels, they made an easily accessable target for any ruler looking for a diversion from their own inadequacies (free public entertainment to keep the masses happy, not unlike the public execution displays today in Sowdi Arabia or Iran).

On top of that, you have the whole Jewish-Christian issue in old Europe, where many in the Church blamed the Jews for killing Christ.  So the rulers had a ready supply of aggrieved and outraged Catholics (then later Protestants) ready to go at the Jews on a moment's notice.

There is one more aspect, an economic one.  If you read Sir Walter Scott's Ivanhoe today, you'll be surprised at how much Jew hatred is in that book.  But the novel does explain in a roundabout way why these pogroms happened.  Now this is not a neo-Nazi conspiracy theory, but it all comes down to money.  Loans, actually.  Loans made to rulers to fight wars, etc.  Usury was a sin in Christianity, but making a little interest wasn't a religious crime to Jews.  So the wealthier became the bankers to kings and royalty all over Europe, loaning them money as needed.  Now once these kings and royalty owed back the money, they didn't want to repay the 'dirty Jew'; such repayments might affect their kingdoms/duchies/whatever with austerity measures/increased taxation possibly enraging their non-Jewish population to revolt, and a revolt was never a good thing.  So they decided on a solution to their monetary problems:  Start pogroms, trumping up some charge or charges.  By doing so, monies owed might never have to be repaid as the original lender might be dead.  Of course, the majority of the Jews killed or injured in such pogroms were not wealthy, but sterotypes are hard to break, as the faux reverends Jackson and Sharpton exemplify every time they open their bigoted 'Hymietown/Jewish interlopers' mouths.  (Muslims also do not believe in charging interest so they, too, had/have a reason to hate those interest-grubbing money-lending Jews, above and beyond 'religious' reasons.)

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« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2011, 07:11:43 PM »
So.  It all came down to money and so it continues today; "the rich, greedy Jew bankers".  This explains much, thank you.

I will add, and I'm counting on folks who know me to not attribute this to anti-Semitism, but, in some respects, the Jews (today's ones, in any case) help to bring it on themselves.  Southern Democrats were historically responsible for anti-Black racism and Jim Crow laws -- I'm not clear on whether the Northern Democrats were rampantly anti-Black as well -- and that should bother the hell out of Jewish folks, who, because of their history, tend to go overboard, out of empathy, in standing for the "oppressed and downtrodden".  Yet, they vote for and support Democrats?  Please.  The Democrats are as racist as ever, projecting their sins onto Republicans, and the majority of Jews buy in, lock, stock and yarmulke.  I'm willing to wager few of the OWS-ers intend to vote Republican, and infiltrated as they are with marxists, it is from whence comes the current rampant anti-Semitism.

Smart Jewish people!  Wake. the hellup!
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Re: Is anti-semitism going main stream?
« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2011, 07:31:27 PM »

As they continue to support antagonists to the Constitution
and we continue to ask them to join us, as we continue to
be the only defenders of Israel are they going to cry foul
when we are not sympathetic as their "buddies" begin
to "marginalize" them.

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Re: Is anti-semitism going main stream?
« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2011, 07:35:05 PM »

As they continue to support antagonists to the Constitution
and we continue to ask them to join us, as we continue to
be the only defenders of Israel are they going to cry foul
when we are not sympathetic as their "buddies" begin
to "marginalize" them.


Yes, I suspect they will, even as we continue to defend them.  It's .. frustrating.
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« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2011, 07:40:16 PM »

Tangentially, Newt just winked at Major Garrrettt

Major asked him something about "thinking outside the box".