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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #280 on: June 04, 2013, 07:35:16 AM »
ZH is big on the youth unemployment numbers in Europe, and there is a valid point that that many angry youths with no prospects roaming the streets cannot be a good thing...but then again go full-retard with socialism isn't a good thing either, so...ya get what ya get!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-06-03/18-signs-massive-economic-problems-are-erupting-everywhere
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #281 on: November 09, 2013, 09:48:26 AM »
Kinda piggybacks on the previous post...

...all them youths have to find a voice somewhere...

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/09/world/europe/right-wings-surge-in-europe-has-the-establishment-rattled.html?hp

...once you deny someone their voice and marginalize and demonize them, it tends to have a tempering effect...and you'll get something far worse than what you tried to stamp out previously.
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #282 on: November 13, 2013, 10:17:22 AM »
Kinda piggybacks on the previous post...

...all them youths have to find a voice somewhere...

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/09/world/europe/right-wings-surge-in-europe-has-the-establishment-rattled.html?hp

...once you deny someone their voice and marginalize and demonize them, it tends to have a tempering effect...and you'll get something far worse than what you tried to stamp out previously.

Yeah, here in the States they are going to get a WAR!!
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #283 on: November 13, 2013, 11:46:46 AM »
Kinda piggybacks on the previous post...

...all them youths have to find a voice somewhere...

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/09/world/europe/right-wings-surge-in-europe-has-the-establishment-rattled.html?hp

...once you deny someone their voice and marginalize and demonize them, it tends to have a tempering effect...and you'll get something far worse than what you tried to stamp out previously.

Yeah, here in the States they are going to get a WAR!!

Yeah, one is coming sooner or later, damn them.
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #284 on: November 13, 2013, 04:17:56 PM »
Kinda piggybacks on the previous post...

...all them youths have to find a voice somewhere...

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/09/world/europe/right-wings-surge-in-europe-has-the-establishment-rattled.html?hp

...once you deny someone their voice and marginalize and demonize them, it tends to have a tempering effect...and you'll get something far worse than what you tried to stamp out previously.

Yeah, here in the States they are going to get a WAR!!

Yeah, one is coming sooner or later, damn them.

I hope it's sooner. Let's get this sh*t over with so we can get on with our lives.
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #285 on: November 14, 2013, 07:28:27 AM »
Kinda piggybacks on the previous post...

...all them youths have to find a voice somewhere...

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/09/world/europe/right-wings-surge-in-europe-has-the-establishment-rattled.html?hp

...once you deny someone their voice and marginalize and demonize them, it tends to have a tempering effect...and you'll get something far worse than what you tried to stamp out previously.

Yeah, here in the States they are going to get a WAR!!

Yeah, one is coming sooner or later, damn them.

I hope it's sooner. Let's get this sh*t over with so we can get on with our lives.

You not gettin' any younger either, eh?

What will be will be.
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #286 on: November 23, 2013, 12:14:32 PM »
Kinda piggybacks on the previous post...

...all them youths have to find a voice somewhere...

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/09/world/europe/right-wings-surge-in-europe-has-the-establishment-rattled.html?hp

...once you deny someone their voice and marginalize and demonize them, it tends to have a tempering effect...and you'll get something far worse than what you tried to stamp out previously.

Yeah, here in the States they are going to get a WAR!!

Yeah, one is coming sooner or later, damn them.

I hope it's sooner. Let's get this sh*t over with so we can get on with our lives.

You not gettin' any younger either, eh?


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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #287 on: November 25, 2013, 07:48:45 AM »
Kinda piggybacks on the previous post...

...all them youths have to find a voice somewhere...

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/09/world/europe/right-wings-surge-in-europe-has-the-establishment-rattled.html?hp

...once you deny someone their voice and marginalize and demonize them, it tends to have a tempering effect...and you'll get something far worse than what you tried to stamp out previously.

Yeah, here in the States they are going to get a WAR!!

Yeah, one is coming sooner or later, damn them.

I hope it's sooner. Let's get this sh*t over with so we can get on with our lives.

You not gettin' any younger either, eh?


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My father...behaviorly...something I can look forward too I reckon...
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #288 on: November 26, 2013, 07:53:51 AM »
You things are bad when people purposely infect themselves with HIV in order to get government benefits.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/25/report-half-of-new-hiv-cases-in-greece-from-2009-2011-self-inflicted-to-get-benefits/

This is beyond desperate, this is full-blown insane!
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #289 on: November 26, 2013, 09:43:08 AM »
You things are bad when people purposely infect themselves with HIV in order to get government benefits.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/25/report-half-of-new-hiv-cases-in-greece-from-2009-2011-self-inflicted-to-get-benefits/

This is beyond desperate, this is full-blown insane!

Aren't all (well most) cases of HIV/AIDS self inflicted? I would think the only ones not are people who got bad blood transfusions or being born to a mother with it, otherwise self inflicted.  IV Drug use, homo sex, what else is there.
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #290 on: November 26, 2013, 11:41:27 AM »
You things are bad when people purposely infect themselves with HIV in order to get government benefits.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/25/report-half-of-new-hiv-cases-in-greece-from-2009-2011-self-inflicted-to-get-benefits/

This is beyond desperate, this is full-blown insane!

Aren't all (well most) cases of HIV/AIDS self inflicted? I would think the only ones not are people who got bad blood transfusions or being born to a mother with it, otherwise self inflicted.  IV Drug use, homo sex, what else is there.

Yeah, but far as I know getting it on purpose for bennies is something new...   ::unknowncomic::
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #291 on: November 27, 2013, 09:09:03 AM »
I heard they walked this back, now claiming it was based on only a few.
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #292 on: June 17, 2014, 11:57:10 AM »
More on Greece - 2/3rds of wages are BARTER

Wow.
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #293 on: October 27, 2014, 09:09:04 AM »
Jeesh, what an interregnum between posts on this thread!

Well, that is over...the slow steady erosion of banks continue, and in the EU it is the usual suspects...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-27/when-stress-tests-fail-italian-banks-are-collapsing

There are stress tests failures aplenty, opn both sides of the pond, and the funnier thing is these tests themselves are watered down, so, things could be worse...

But hey, the old "everybody bail everybody else off" shell game is a classic, let's do that again!  Just create more fiat, we are in a deflationary funk dontchyaknow.
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #294 on: December 30, 2014, 06:38:26 AM »
Well, OK then!

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/29/syriza-leading-polls-future-begun-alexis-tsipras-greece

Maybe this will kick-start the EU collapse, sure would make the Rooskies happy...but right now America is Russia's number one enemy, thanks to Vlad the Nation-Inhaler's recycling of KGB-era anti-Americanism, but a EU in crisis would be fine sport for the mongrels in Moscow.
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #295 on: January 16, 2015, 08:00:49 AM »
OK, first it was the Swiss breaking away from the Euro (so far that is working for the Swiss and not so well for the Euro, and this Jim Grant fella called it back in September, and now we have the ELA (Emergency Liquidation Assistance) activating in Greece because Greeks are pulling fiat out and the Greeks are running out of collateral (actually I am surprised they have any left, must be land, eh?) and this will only strain the Euro and the ECB and weaken the EU as a whole at a time when NATO seems to be increasingly impotent to handle much of anything.

To that latter point, this excerpt from the comments made by Estonian President Toomas Hendrik Ilves is interesting in a historical context -

I'll tell you something: May 8, 1945, the definitive answer to annex other territories because of the minority living there. Germany must understand Russia - this is a thought of blood and soil for us.

Q: Do you feel like an outsider in the Western Alliance?

Ilves: No, but we feel vindicated. For 20 years, us Eastern Europeans have been told to calm down, that Russia is a normal country. And now they see that we were right.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-15/putin-destroyed-new-world-order-according-estonias-president-ilves

I share his angst.  It wasn't me or people like me.  It is born of a refusal in the US by too many people to build upon the strength Reagan gave us and continue in that "trust but verify" mode and it started with Bush I and morphed into willfully blind naivitee under Clinton, and then into the surreal trust Bush II had in Vlad to the America in appeasement mode under Obama.  And in Europe the Russian issue has been  plagued by the same bug since the advent of the Czars - Russia is not quite European and has no history of unauthoritarian self rule and it is further complicated by recent wars of aggression each blames the other for and the old hatreds and resentments (while still present) have been dying off and the near perpetual dominance of left of center political rule has given rise to an environment of accomodation that the Russians have exploited and which now is playing itself out across the continent in economic conflicts, diplomatic sparring, military flexing and in the case of Ukraine direct military invasion and seizure of territory.

Europe is in flux, and instead of caught in it we should be looking to get out of it.  It is too late to partner up because it will never be all-in for either party, and half-assed will get you just as dead.

We should sit out the third war brewing there...but I doubt we will.

An economic wipeout might be the only thing keeping us out.
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #296 on: January 26, 2015, 08:14:55 AM »
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #297 on: February 02, 2015, 07:30:19 AM »
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-02-01/tide-turning-obama-expresses-sympathy-greece-lazard-says-50-greek-haircut-reasonable

Duh Stupid Wun sympathizes with Greece (naturally) and talks about "needing growth"!   ::hysterical::

The only things Obama can grow are: Government, deficits, and resentment!

And if the 50% haricut is in the offing, well, that should set off a nice stampede...

Maybe the EU can call on Pete Carroll for advice on their next move?
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #298 on: February 17, 2015, 06:55:45 AM »
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11416209/Germany-warns-there-are-no-options-as-time-runs-out-on-eurozone-talks-with-Greece.html

Greece says stick your austerity.

The game is still a 0-0 tie.



ETA - Calls for capital controls.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-02-16/hans-werner-sinn-impose-capital-controls-greece-now-avoid-another-cyprus

Yeah, uhh huh.

Only one thing is certain - failure.  The EU fails, Greece fails, both fail...or they agree to decide who all fails at a later date...

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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #299 on: February 20, 2015, 06:44:16 AM »
OK, now this pic is hilarious!



 ::hysterical::

Suck what you can out!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-02-19/greek-deposit-run-accelerates-ahead-mondays-bank-holiday

There will have to be a transfer period from the Euro where you can still spend that crap...

The Germans appear willing to call Greece's bluff...basically saying "goodbye" to them.  So now we will see if the Greeks call the German bluff.

 ::popcorn::
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