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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #320 on: June 30, 2015, 11:19:01 AM »
Quote from: Glock32 on June 30, 2015, 10:59:40 AM
Well, can't they just print some more money?

That's the ECB's call...I'm guessing Merkel and others don't want to waste that much paper...and in so blatant a fashion...more blatantly than usual....

If your going to hose all citizens, best to have a better reason than artificially saving the Greeks a day or two...
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #321 on: July 06, 2015, 07:09:39 AM »
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #322 on: July 06, 2015, 08:06:26 PM »
  I can't believe that that chickenshyt country that can't collect it's taxes is holding up the EU  and people are paying attention to them.  Let it burn and when they get their acts together they can sit down and talk like grown ups.  Till then not one dime.
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #323 on: July 07, 2015, 08:37:17 AM »
I think they fear the burning will spread, when in a sane world one nation going under should be an alarm to others to clean up their act...

But, we are not in a sane world, so if things stay true to form,, all the wrong moves will continue to be made...
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #324 on: July 07, 2015, 08:47:50 AM »
Quote from: John Florida on July 06, 2015, 08:06:26 PM
  I can't believe that that chickenshyt country that can't collect it's taxes is holding up the EU  and people are paying attention to them.  Let it burn and when they get their acts together they can sit down and talk like grown ups.  Till then not one dime.

Actually, the problem is the Greeks  already have the dimes. The question is how many of them they can manage to get back. This deal is analogous to the one Iceland turned down  They let the banks fail, and letting the economy burn ( and the oligarch's power with it )  is the right move for Greece.
 
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #325 on: July 07, 2015, 08:52:54 AM »
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Quote from: John Florida on July 06, 2015, 08:06:26 PM
  I can't believe that that chickenshyt country that can't collect it's taxes is holding up the EU  and people are paying attention to them.  Let it burn and when they get their acts together they can sit down and talk like grown ups.  Till then not one dime.

Actually, the problem is the Greeks  already have the dimes. The question is how many of them they can manage to get back. This deal is analogous to the one Iceland turned down  They let the banks fail, and letting the economy burn ( and the oligarch's power with it )  is the right move for Greece.
 

Good point, I forgot about Iceland, it is one of the few way to get back at the ruling class where it hurts.  If there is no bailout, no government confiscation to transfer to the ruling class...it is they who take it in the shorts the worst in terms of scale.
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #326 on: July 08, 2015, 07:39:43 AM »
Boy, talk about high kabuki drama...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3152938/European-leaders-warn-five-days-critical-moment-history-EU-Greece-given-one-final-deadline.html

...this seems like a cross between Faust and the Nutcracker...
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #327 on: July 08, 2015, 02:23:56 PM »
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #328 on: July 10, 2015, 07:36:36 AM »
Oh sure, sorta...Asian contagion...all part of the larger mosaic of mayhem...

Oh, and Merkel blinked...we're back to pre-toughtalk proposals again...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11730086/Greek-deal-in-sight-as-Germany-bows-to-huge-global-pressure-for-debt-relief.html

What a carousel of clowns!

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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #329 on: July 13, 2015, 06:50:46 AM »
This is so pathetic...

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20150712/eu--greece_bailout-37cc00c290.html

...it's like watching two idiots try to play a game of chicken!

No, wait...strike that "like" part...it is two idiots playing chicken!

And the real funny part is...in the end it is all just BS anyway...all of this crap can only end one way.

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This take via ZH is just too hilarious...

Me: How are the talks going?
EU source: "sh*tty."
Me: "Getting more sh*tty or less?"
Source: "Pretty steady level of sh*ttiness"

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-12/latest-out-europe-pretty-steady-level-sh*ttiness

But, it sounds like folks are saying Tsipras folded, but all he did was kick the can to his Parliament and the bankers.  This will likely all unravel and they'll be back to square one and Tsipras will say the Euro demands are too stiff, yadda yadda yadda...

Jerk, meet circle, circle...

WHAT’S NEXT?

The Greek govt is set to renew a bank holiday and capital controls decree which expires today
*The ECB’s GC is expected to discuss ELA for Greece’s banks
*Eurogroup meeting later today will work on Greece’s short-term needs and discuss bridge financing
*Greece has accepted to legislate on 4 action points by Thursday July 16, and another two by July 22, according to Malta’s PM Muscat
*Then Greece would come before the Eurogroup and euro- area member states would decide to open or close the needed negotiations that would let the ESM to disburse funds, Muscat says
*Dutch PM Rutte says it could take weeks to negotiate Greek ESM aid deal

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-13/after-deal-heres-whats-next-greece

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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #330 on: July 13, 2015, 09:52:02 AM »
I was disappointed to hear that "a deal" had been reached.  Not because I care particularly about Europe's economy, but because it seems to be further evidence that the globalists will always, always, always have a rabbit to pull out of their magic hat.  They'll always, always, always find a clever new way to kick the can a bit further down the road.

Combine that with the fact that people are either (a) totally oblivious to the problem in the first place, or (b) vaguely aware of the problem but totally uninterested in confronting it, and it just seems like this house of cards will never run out of scotch tape to keep it together.
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #331 on: July 13, 2015, 10:01:06 AM »
I think the people (check out ZeroHedge) calling Tsipras a traitor are missing the point...maybe I am wrong but socialist leaders typically have a knack for using the corrupt political and bureaucratic institutions to their advantage (it is typically not the the nations advantage, but to the party's advantage and/or personal advantage)...primarily because they created these diseased institutions and populated them with their fellow travelers..and it is this corruption, dysfunction and ingrained socialistic miasma that is going to do what Tsipras politically could not do - outright kill the EU proposal.  In typical Euro-Socialist fashion, each side wants the other to cave/stumble/fail...they never win with offense, they win because the other capitulates.  Hence the hilarious idiots playing chicken analogy...both want to swerve out of the way and claim the other swerved first.
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #332 on: July 13, 2015, 12:24:04 PM »
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #333 on: July 14, 2015, 12:07:47 PM »
Panos Kammenos, the defense minister and leader of Tsipras’s Independent Greeks junior coalition partner, said his lawmakers will only back those measures agreed by Greek political leaders and not those imposed by creditors, which he denounced as an attempted "coup d’etat."

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-14/complete-humiliation-greek-parliament-pressed-approve-german-coup

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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #334 on: September 24, 2015, 12:01:11 PM »
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/607595/Migrant-crisis-EU-lost-control-borders-danger-collapse

Jeesh, what a whiner! 

Buck up Donnie!  Look at the bright side...a breakup is about as good as your news could get, at least that way a couple nations choosing sanity and survival might make it.

Man, what a wuss!
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #335 on: September 25, 2015, 11:38:06 AM »
It is not surprising to me at all that the former East Bloc nations see this Muzloid invasion as insane...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/hungary/11884665/Refugee-crisis-EU-divided-as-Hungary-attacks-migrant-quota-as-unrealisable-and-nonsense.html

...after all they had decades to learn what stupid, crazy and dangerous sh*t looks like!!!

The Western nations are suicidally insane...they should say goodbye to them now while they are alive to hear and see it.
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #336 on: October 07, 2015, 11:36:22 AM »
A young, female ‘No Borders’ activist working in a migrant camp on the France-Italy border remained silent about her gang rape by Sudanese migrants for over a month because “the others asked me to keep quiet.”

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10/06/no-borders-activist-gang-raped-migrants-pressured-silence-not-damage-cause/

Just more proof leftism is a disease and the only known cure is terminal to the host...

Their scum is like our scum...guaranteed this is going on here...
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #337 on: October 07, 2015, 04:11:57 PM »
Quote from: Libertas on October 07, 2015, 11:36:22 AM
A young, female ‘No Borders’ activist working in a migrant camp on the France-Italy border remained silent about her gang rape by Sudanese migrants for over a month because “the others asked me to keep quiet.”

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10/06/no-borders-activist-gang-raped-migrants-pressured-silence-not-damage-cause/

Just more proof leftism is a disease and the only known cure is terminal to the host...

Their scum is like our scum...guaranteed this is going on here...

  You just can't rape the willing. She would rather give them permission to keep on raping her than do the right thing. Turn them in.
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #338 on: November 09, 2015, 11:51:40 AM »
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #339 on: November 10, 2015, 10:12:04 PM »
  Let it burn.
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