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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #160 on: May 02, 2012, 07:08:36 AM »
Plus...that global economy thingy...the fact that all banks own a share of each others worthless paper...the fact that markets will be roiled the world over...the fact that bare essentials for life will experience rapid inflation...

Their going down only preceeds our own.

I wouldn't get to thrilled about it, but I would expedite whatever SHTF plans in the works.
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #161 on: May 03, 2012, 10:39:25 PM »
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/318045/EU-plot-to-scrap-Britain

I can't really think of a better place to put this even though this isn't a financial story. If the people in this story have their way though I think it would end up toppling the EU in the end anyway so the outcome is the same.

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SENIOR Eurocrats are secretly plotting to create a super-powerful EU president to realise their dream of abolishing ­Britain and other nation states, the Daily Express can reveal.

A covert group of EU foreign ministers has drawn up plans for merging the jobs currently done by Herman Van Rompuy, president of the European Council, and Jose Manuel Barroso, president of the European Commission.

The new bureaucrat, who would not be directly elected by voters, is set to get sweeping control over the entire EU and force member countries into ever-greater political and economic union. Tellingly, the UK has been excluded from the confidential discussions within the shady “Berlin Group” of Europhile politicians, spearheaded by German foreign minister Guido Westerwelle.

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“This is a plot by people who want to abolish nation states and create a United States of Europe,” he said. “The whole thing is barmy. These people are determined to achieve their final objective.

The only hope for Britain is to leave the EU and become an independent nation.

Sounds a bit like UN's agenda 21 at work over there in Europe to me. Also, this isn't the first story in the last year or so that I've read where politicians in Britain were discussing leaving the EU altogether.
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #162 on: May 03, 2012, 11:08:52 PM »
Ah. So the Eurocrats want a king, do they.
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #163 on: May 04, 2012, 07:42:34 AM »
It would seem so Pan.
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #164 on: May 04, 2012, 07:43:40 AM »
I think they are more likely to end up with a dictator...

Ask Hindenburg how well it worked out for Germany to name Hitler Chancellor!
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #165 on: May 04, 2012, 08:44:05 PM »
This is more concerning the global economy, but it addresses Europe as well so guess I'll stash it here.

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The euro zone economy worsened markedly last month and U.S. employers cut back on hiring, according to two reports on Friday that dampened hopes for gradual recovery on either side of the Atlantic.

In Europe, the purchasing managers indexes (PMIs), which primarily cover services, suggested a recession across the continent's currency union could now extend to mid-year and be deeper than previously thought.

The gloomy surveys clashed with the picture painted by European Central Bank President Mario Draghi, who on Thursday spoke of a gradual recovery taking place in the euro zone during the course of the year - although he did speak about risks.

In the United States, a government report showed employers added a disappointing 115,000 workers to payrolls last month and, critically, many Americans stopped looking for work. Economists had expected 170,000 new nonfarm jobs, and the report could hurt President Barack Obama as he steps up a re-election campaign that will likely hinge on the state of the economy.

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Markit's Eurozone Services PMI, which gauges business activity over a month, came in at 46.9 in April, sharply lower than 49.2 in March. Anything below 50 signifies contraction.

That was also a full point lower than the preliminary reading of 47.9 reported two weeks ago, which itself was far weaker than any economist polled by Reuters had expected.
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #166 on: May 04, 2012, 09:00:28 PM »
I would say Britain's viability as a nation is far more threatened by their immigration policy of importing barbarian hordes, more than it is threatened by the fantasies of eurocrats in Brussels.
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #167 on: May 04, 2012, 09:18:14 PM »
I would say Britain's viability as a nation is far more threatened by their immigration policy of importing barbarian hordes, more than it is threatened by the fantasies of eurocrats in Brussels.

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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #168 on: May 06, 2012, 05:21:56 PM »
Looks like the house of cards is starting to crumble...

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German Chancellor Angela Merkel's centre-right coalition lost power in the state of Schleswig-Holstein, first estimates showed Sunday, after a vote that could presage national elections next year.

Some more interesting reading:

Socialist Hollande wins in France

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Greeks poised to blow off their debts
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #169 on: May 06, 2012, 05:29:38 PM »
Looks like the house of cards is starting to crumble...

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German Chancellor Angela Merkel's centre-right coalition lost power in the state of Schleswig-Holstein, first estimates showed Sunday, after a vote that could presage national elections next year.

Some more interesting reading:

Socialist Hollande wins in France

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Greeks poised to blow off their debts


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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #170 on: May 07, 2012, 07:23:29 AM »
France wants to lead the EU down the drain.  Even though we will not escape the fallout, I hope it hurts them a hell of a lot more than it hurts anybody!

OK everybody!  Lets all jump in together now!

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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #171 on: May 07, 2012, 08:05:55 AM »
Yes, I figure this is ultimately a good thing. It should help bring about the end sooner.
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #172 on: May 07, 2012, 11:09:49 AM »
Yeah, in the long run it is a good thing. It'll be really painful for the entire world...but when all's said and done it will be impossible to put any kind of a positive spin on socialist policies. The majority of the world is socialist in some form or another, ergo; it is socialist policies that have wreaked all this havoc. Even the dumbest of the dumb fence-sitting voter will be able to see that. The only ones left to support it at that point will be the die-hard leftists that wanted all this destruction to begin with.
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #173 on: May 07, 2012, 04:01:29 PM »
Britain is shackled to the corpse of Europe

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Europe's economic problems are about to get a whole lot worse. For the past three years, governments have tried, however ineffectually, to tackle the debt crisis. Now, though, in country after country, voters are demanding precisely the high-tax and high-spend policies which caused the recession in the first place.

Yesterday’s elections in France and Greece were the first of what will surely be many advances by the populist Left. In both places, candidates were elbowing each other aside during the campaign to demand more intervention and an end to cuts.

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Europe is in a downward spiral. The worse things get, the more its people vote for all the things that brought it to its present unhappy condition: wastrel spending, unsustainable borrowing, punitive taxation, deeper integration.

Not since we joined the EEC 40 years ago have the Continent’s prospects looked so dark. Nor, by contrast, has the rest of the English-speaking world looked so bright: as Europe dwindles, the Old Commonwealth is flourishing. We thought we were joining a growing and prosperous market all those years ago when we signed up to Europe. In fact, we were shackling ourselves to a corpse.

Of course, this is stuff we already knew - but it is still a good read and sums up the situation pretty well.
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #174 on: May 07, 2012, 10:05:57 PM »
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Of course, this is stuff we already knew ...

And know.  About their circumstances and our own.  We need - NEED - to get our own Looter elements under control sooner rather than later because they will insist, demand and drag us kicking and screaming down the same black hole, and that's just the radicals; the spineless, ball-less wonders, the faux conservatives, will see us to the same destination, just a bit later rather than sooner.
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #175 on: May 09, 2012, 11:56:42 AM »
We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.

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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #176 on: May 09, 2012, 01:34:50 PM »

Europe's piggybank...is set to cut Europe's most wayward child loose.

According to economists, a 50% depreciation would be necessary.
That would, at least theoretically, mean that holidays in Greece would be substantially cheaper.

Greece's new economic growth field, kidnapping...
Yeah, po'd Greeks will be much less pleasant than
French peasants  during vacation season.



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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #177 on: May 09, 2012, 01:47:42 PM »
On to Spain!
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #178 on: May 09, 2012, 04:38:42 PM »
Beware of Greeks demanding gifts.
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Re: Is the EU Going to Topple?
« Reply #179 on: May 09, 2012, 06:34:53 PM »
  In the end all that happens is that everything goes back to where it was and Greeks can all go back to doing what they did best,nothing Italy goes back to the Lira and a massive deflation in prices happens to them and Spain goes back to Bullfighting and they lived happily ever after.
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