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Saturday, 29 October 2011 00:00 The Daily Bell

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"We have to concentrate all of our resources into one single attack – making sure we take corporate money out of politics. The only way to do that is to bypass the corporate owned Congress and the Supreme Court – and pass a Constitutional amendment. We must pass an amendment saying that corporations are not people and they do not have the right to spend money to buy our politicians. – Wolf-PAC, Cenk Uygur @ AmpedStatus

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Dominant Social Theme: Look, the US is broke. Corporations have ruined it. Now we have to kill corporate "personhood" and then the US will be good again and there will be equality and justice for all.

Free-Market Analysis: Leftist commentator and "Young Turk" Cenk Uygur has announced the formation of Wolf-PAC to campaign for a constitutional convention. His call to action was featured on the AmpedStatus website run by David DeGraw, one of the original founders of the Occupy Wall Street movement.

We've been covering the increasing leftist tilt of Occupy Wall Street and Uygur's disingenuous video announcement fits right into this pattern. Multinational corporations are a kind of Frankenstein's monster, the bastardized creation of the US judicial system. But the way to pare back their influence is to go to the heart of the matter – the US's corrupt judiciary and monetary system – not to create an unpredictable constitutional convention that might have significant anti-freedom ramifications or do away with constitutional protections entirely. (What's left of them, anyway.)

for the world along with a global tax on transactions. It seems to us that it becoming increasingly difficult for anyone to deny the collusion between the great central banking families and their enablers and co-conspirators ... including the Vatican and Jesuit "Black Church." The Anglosophere elite is moving RAPIDLY toward world government, far more rapidly than one might have expected even a few years ago. See our article @ www.thedailybell.com/3111/Occupy-Wall-Street-Demands-Global-

In fact, a constitutional convention has been a dream of US leftists for a century or more. Constitution.net tells us that as far back as 1932, the Socialist Party's platform included proposed changes to the Constitution, and many of these changes seem to parallel what Cenk and others want now. From Constitution.net:

The Socialist Party's 1932 platform included many proposed changes to the Constitution. One group concerned voting and elections, including popular election of the President and the ability to hold national referenda. Judicial review would be specifically barred. Workers' rights would be protected and child labor barred; nationalization of industry would also be permitted and promoted. Finally, they advocated an easing of the requirements for ratification of constitutional amendments."


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Re: Occupy Wall Street to Attack US Freedoms With Consitutional Convention?
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2011, 12:02:38 PM »
That's one way of finding out who the individuals are who are really behind this crap . Besides that , I find political farce very entertaining .

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Re: Occupy Wall Street to Attack US Freedoms With Consitutional Convention?
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2011, 12:07:29 PM »
A constitutional convention would spell the end of our country. Imagine the same morons that elected the most unqualified president in history shaping our constitution. Gives me shudders even thinking about it...

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Re: Occupy Wall Street to Attack US Freedoms With Consitutional Convention?
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2011, 08:58:10 AM »
A constitutional convention would spell the end of our country. Imagine the same morons that elected the most unqualified president in history shaping our constitution. Gives me shudders even thinking about it...

Those idiots can put together enough people for a rock concert . And even if they could , it would be one huge fiasco !

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Re: Occupy Wall Street to Attack US Freedoms With Constitutional Convention?
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2011, 10:41:46 AM »
A constitutional convention would spell the end of our country. Imagine the same morons that elected the most unqualified president in history shaping our constitution. Gives me shudders even thinking about it...


Just a little food for thought, this all could be the thing Obama needs to declare Martial Law. Let's face it, it is catching on, and Authorities are not doing much to stop it. Interfering with the daily Government could be considered a Act Of Emergency? Especially if this crap is still going on closer to elections. Just imagine these groups at all the Polling Booths next November?

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Re: Occupy Wall Street to Attack US Freedoms With Constitutional Convention?
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2011, 02:55:37 PM »
A constitutional convention would spell the end of our country. Imagine the same morons that elected the most unqualified president in history shaping our constitution. Gives me shudders even thinking about it...


Just a little food for thought, this all could be the thing Obama needs to declare Martial Law. Let's face it, it is catching on, and Authorities are not doing much to stop it. Interfering with the daily Government could be considered a Act Of Emergency? Especially if this crap is still going on closer to elections. Just imagine these groups at all the Polling Booths next November?


I can imagine one getting the crap beat out of them if they interfere ith me at the polls.
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Re: Occupy Wall Street to Attack US Freedoms With Consitutional Convention?
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2011, 07:48:56 AM »
Dumbest idea ever heard.  Of course with this ilk you can say that for just about everything they say...

Go ahead, I'd love to see this 3 ring circus fustercluck itself!

Since conventions require state level action, these idiots will not get the mix of attendees they desire, and getting a disparate group like this to agree on anything these morons what changed is more unlikely than ever.

At least the Founders in the original convention had men of honor and men of reason.

Any attempt at this time would be met with epic failure.

I think they are merely trying to get face time on MFM talk shows and this is the means to do so.  They just want to shoot their mouths off some more because they are frustrated nobody gives a rats ass what they are saying.  Like all proglodyte trash, they think their problem is one of marketing, it never occurs to them that their brand is tainted.

Keep talking trash, makes everyone loath you more!
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« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2011, 10:58:25 AM »
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Just a little food for thought, this all could be the thing Obama needs to declare Martial Law. Let's face it, it is catching on, and Authorities are not doing much to stop it. Interfering with the daily Government could be considered a Act Of Emergency? Especially if this crap is still going on closer to elections. Just imagine these groups at all the Polling Booths next November?

Though I can see your line of thinking here JP, I have strong doubts that the democrats would seriously entertain this option. That doesn't stop me from keeping it in mind when I'm getting all my stuff in order for the day that everything goes completely to crap - but at this point right now I can't see this happening. Mainly because the gamble of it failing would effectively mean the end of the left in this country and I believe that the chance of it failing far outstrips the chances of it working in the democrat's favor. If they ever did try this I'd wager that something around 80% of the US military would suddenly be on the side of the non-governmental faction. If it didn't immediately end with the arrest of the president, the only option at that point for the democrats would be to try to get the UN involved in a land war on US soil. That would not end well for the democrats or the UN. The democrats can not hope to win if they do something like this - they'll keep doing what they've been doing for the last 100 years or so - subverting the government slowly through incrementalism.
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Re: Occupy Wall Street to Attack US Freedoms With Consitutional Convention?
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2011, 11:06:16 AM »

Yes.  Saw it and have been looking for it[edit] can't find it now.  
Breitbart was speaking to the potential of violence and remarked that
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« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2011, 11:13:58 AM »
First I heard that.  Any officer making that statement has no concept of lawful orders or of a higher duty to the constitution above and beyond blindly accepting orders of anyone beneath that charter!
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Re: Occupy Wall Street to Attack US Freedoms With Constitutional Convention?
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2011, 11:14:41 AM »
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Just a little food for thought, this all could be the thing Obama needs to declare Martial Law. Let's face it, it is catching on, and Authorities are not doing much to stop it. Interfering with the daily Government could be considered a Act Of Emergency? Especially if this crap is still going on closer to elections. Just imagine these groups at all the Polling Booths next November?

Though I can see your line of thinking here JP, I have strong doubts that the democrats would seriously entertain this option. That doesn't stop me from keeping it in mind when I'm getting all my stuff in order for the day that everything goes completely to crap - but at this point right now I can't see this happening. Mainly because the gamble of it failing would effectively mean the end of the left in this country and I believe that the chance of it failing far outstrips the chances of it working in the democrat's favor. If they ever did try this I'd wager that something around 80% of the US military would suddenly be on the side of the non-governmental faction. If it didn't immediately end with the arrest of the president, the only option at that point for the democrats would be to try to get the UN involved in a land war on US soil. That would not end well for the democrats or the UN. The democrats can not hope to win if they do something like this - they'll keep doing what they've been doing for the last 100 years or so - subverting the government slowly through incrementalism.



I sure hope you are right but, we aren't dealing with normal People. Just look at the Jackasses on Obama's Cabinet, and also Howard Dean. It seems they make a  move, then thinks about it later. The Mainstream Media steps in smooths out the rough edges, and diverts disaster. My Newspaper unashamedly, nothing more than a 60's style propaganda rag, heaps praise on the Insanity that is Liberalism, and I imagine most in the Country, do the same.

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« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2011, 11:27:05 AM »
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I sure hope you are right but, we aren't dealing with normal People. Just look at the Jackasses on Obama's Cabinet, and also Howard Dean. It seems they make a  move, then thinks about it later. The Mainstream Media steps in smooths out the rough edges, and diverts disaster. My Newspaper unashamedly, nothing more than a 60's style propaganda rag, heaps praise on the Insanity that is Liberalism, and I imagine most in the Country, do the same.

That is exactly why I mentioned that my opinion (as posted previously) doesn't keep me from preparing for the worst just the same. I can see where your concerns are justified to be sure and I am an advocate of 'hoping for the best and planing for the worst'. Still, I do believe that the democrats will try to do something like this scenario you've put forth at their peril. Doing something like that would push the country right over the edge into civil war and they can not even hope to win something like that in a center-right country. Time will reveal whether they truly are dumb enough to try it though.     
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Re: Occupy Wall Street to Attack US Freedoms With Constitutional Convention?
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2011, 12:36:50 PM »
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I sure hope you are right but, we aren't dealing with normal People. Just look at the Jackasses on Obama's Cabinet, and also Howard Dean. It seems they make a  move, then thinks about it later. The Mainstream Media steps in smooths out the rough edges, and diverts disaster. My Newspaper unashamedly, nothing more than a 60's style propaganda rag, heaps praise on the Insanity that is Liberalism, and I imagine most in the Country, do the same.

That is exactly why I mentioned that my opinion (as posted previously) doesn't keep me from preparing for the worst just the same. I can see where your concerns are justified to be sure and I am an advocate of 'hoping for the best and planing for the worst'. Still, I do believe that the democrats will try to do something like this scenario you've put forth at their peril. Doing something like that would push the country right over the edge into civil war and they can not even hope to win something like that in a center-right country. Time will reveal whether they truly are dumb enough to try it though.     



Just the same I am exercising furiously for after 2012. If these Marxists Liberals want to dance after we elect a Conservative, I will oblige them. Only thing I lead!
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