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Re: Lynching Cain
« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2011, 12:09:48 PM »
Rush is opining on this right now...

... And he's hitting it with both barrels, too.

UPDATE:  Cain has now issued an unequivocal denial. There were accusations, an investigation and he was "acquitted", he said.
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Re: Lynching Cain
« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2011, 12:12:02 PM »
Yeah, I like it when he gets on a roll...he's best when he is unleashed...

But aren't we all!

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Re: Lynching Cain
« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2011, 12:28:38 PM »
I wish Cain would have come forward with the nature of the false allegations. Because you just KNOW those allegations will come forward. Why wouldn't you want that to happen at a time of your own choosing, and to come from your own mouth?
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Re: Lynching Cain
« Reply #23 on: October 31, 2011, 01:38:50 PM »
From what I've heard there were obscure "suggestive gestures" that made the women "uncomfortable".  That could just about anything innocuous that someone misinterpreted.  Unless there's exposed flesh, explicit sexual threats, groping of body parts, or threats of firing unless sexual acts are performed, then to me it's not sexual harassment.  I've known more than one man whose careers have been destroyed based on some innuendo from some female co-worker.  It's more than not fair. 

It always enraged me that no one bothered to ask Anita Hill how she knew that hair on her coke was a pubic hair and not some stray hair from someone's head, and how she could be so sure it was from Clarence Thomas.

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Re: Lynching Cain
« Reply #24 on: October 31, 2011, 01:41:51 PM »
From what I've heard there were obscure "suggestive gestures" that made the women "uncomfortable".  That could just about anything innocuous that someone misinterpreted.  Unless there's exposed flesh, explicit sexual threats, groping of body parts, or threats of firing unless sexual acts are performed, then to me it's not sexual harassment.  I've known more than one man whose careers have been destroyed based on some innuendo from some female co-worker.  It's more than not fair. 

It always enraged me that no one bothered to ask Anita Hill how she knew that hair on her coke was a pubic hair and not some stray hair from someone's head, and how she could be so sure it was from Clarence Thomas.


And nothing "overtly sexual" either.

The more he talks about it, even to describe the accusations, the more play it's going to get, IDP.
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Re: Lynching Cain
« Reply #25 on: October 31, 2011, 02:00:00 PM »
Right, but if he DOESN'T specify what the activity was, then the vague allegation of "sexual harassment" is open to innuendo and interpretation by the media, and ultimately voters. The charges are still there, and hay WILL be made of them, in spite of an unequivocal denial of misconduct. The only way I can see to rid the enemy of the ability to paint that picture however they want is for the event to have a specific definition that is no longer mysterious. That's why I say he needs to define what happened, and be done with it.
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Re: Lynching Cain
« Reply #26 on: October 31, 2011, 02:06:26 PM »
Right, but if he DOESN'T specify what the activity was, then the vague allegation of "sexual harassment" is open to innuendo and interpretation by the media, and ultimately voters. The charges are still there, and hay WILL be made of them, in spite of an unequivocal denial of misconduct. The only way I can see to rid the enemy of the ability to paint that picture however they want is for the event to have a specific definition that is no longer mysterious. That's why I say he needs to define what happened, and be done with it.

Okay.  So, say he comes out with a specific definition.  That won't be the end of it; there will be multiple conversants offering opinions on whether this or that rises to the level of harassment, the Anita Hill BS will be brought up and rehashed with Cain's name tangentially but carefully attached, women who have won harassment cases or settled will be interviewed and asked for their opinion on the severity of the offense ......

I can't stand the thought; it makes me want to scream, so I'd rather see him finish what he has to say today and refuse to discuss it again.  The LSM is going to continue to speculate no matter what, best give them no further fodder.

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Re: Lynching Cain
« Reply #27 on: October 31, 2011, 02:19:04 PM »
Rush is right, and I share his incredulity of the absurd notion that Cain owes anybody an explanation of the nature of the false accusations levied against him for which he was exonerated...

They're bullsh*t!

Fvck the media, Cain should not play their game!

Hell, play the Clinton card...drag out pictures of the accusers, call them whores, etc!  That is what the media is used to!
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Re: Lynching Cain
« Reply #28 on: October 31, 2011, 02:27:16 PM »
"Equality," no longer is a Liberal argument. The wild hatred for People like Herman Cain, Sarah Palin, totally disqualify Liberals from the subject at all.The only other choices open to them are Gay's, Union Thugs, Islam Extremists, Communists, Anarchists, Socialists, and Sex Partners for Animal's. If I was them, I would sit down and shut up! ::grouphug::

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Re: Lynching Cain
« Reply #29 on: October 31, 2011, 02:40:15 PM »
You know who just came forth and claimed that Cain needs to publicly describe the actual circumstances and nature of the "Harassment"?

Wait for it . . .

Wait for it . . .

The POS Politico "journalist" who broke the story.

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"There are more questions here for him to answer. He has not yet explained what exactly he was accused of. He just said that he didn't do it. But, these are serious charges," Martin said on MSNBC's "Andrea Mitchell Reports."

GIVE ME A BREAK.
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Re: Lynching Cain
« Reply #30 on: October 31, 2011, 02:47:04 PM »
You know who just came forth and claimed that Cain needs to publicly describe the actual circumstances and nature of the "Harassment"?

Wait for it . . .

Wait for it . . .

The POS Politico "journalist" who broke the story.

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"There are more questions here for him to answer. He has not yet explained what exactly he was accused of. He just said that he didn't do it. But, these are serious charges," Martin said on MSNBC's "Andrea Mitchell Reports."

GIVE ME A BREAK.

I see.  He didn't want to say in the interview, "We're just not going to get into the details of exactly what happened with these women beside what's in the story" and now he's calling for Cain to do so?!

Set up, I'm TELLING you.
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Re: Lynching Cain
« Reply #31 on: October 31, 2011, 03:06:24 PM »
You know who just came forth and claimed that Cain needs to publicly describe the actual circumstances and nature of the "Harassment"?

Wait for it . . .

Wait for it . . .

The POS Politico "journalist" who broke the story.

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"There are more questions here for him to answer. He has not yet explained what exactly he was accused of. He just said that he didn't do it. But, these are serious charges," Martin said on MSNBC's "Andrea Mitchell Reports."

GIVE ME A BREAK.

I see.  He didn't want to say in the interview, "We're just not going to get into the details of exactly what happened with these women beside what's in the story" and now he's calling for Cain to do so?!

Set up, I'm TELLING you.

Or does the payoff for the setup come later - when Cain is on record with a full-throated denial of misconduct - and the media trots out some woman a week before the general election who says he inappropriately told her to come to his hotel room, when the reality is that he called a staff meeting in a suite?

I'm just saying - we're already seeing it - the absence of specifics will be filled with whatever the media wants this to look like. Specifics - assuming nothing untoward happened - rob them of the opportunity to portray this as something its not, AND it gives those people inclined to support him some comfort that they are not wasting their time, energy, and money.

In spite of the good arguments against it here (and from Rush, apparently) I still think complete transparency is the best thing he could do here.
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Re: Lynching Cain
« Reply #32 on: October 31, 2011, 03:12:56 PM »
It is infuriating, to the point of having no adequate means of conveyance, that we have to see our guys scrambling over non-specific hearsay and innuendo, while Democrats like Ted Kennedy, the "conscience of the Senate", could drive around drunk and leave a young woman to drown in his crashed car, and the media just gives it the ol' Memory Hole treatment.

Screw social justice. I want cosmic justice for these cretins.
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Re: Lynching Cain
« Reply #33 on: October 31, 2011, 03:19:58 PM »
You know who just came forth and claimed that Cain needs to publicly describe the actual circumstances and nature of the "Harassment"?

Wait for it . . .

Wait for it . . .

The POS Politico "journalist" who broke the story.

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"There are more questions here for him to answer. He has not yet explained what exactly he was accused of. He just said that he didn't do it. But, these are serious charges," Martin said on MSNBC's "Andrea Mitchell Reports."

GIVE ME A BREAK.

I see.  He didn't want to say in the interview, "We're just not going to get into the details of exactly what happened with these women beside what's in the story" and now he's calling for Cain to do so?!

Set up, I'm TELLING you.

Or does the payoff for the setup come later - when Cain is on record with a full-throated denial of misconduct - and the media trots out some woman a week before the general election who says he inappropriately told her to come to his hotel room, when the reality is that he called a staff meeting in a suite?

I'm just saying - we're already seeing it - the absence of specifics will be filled with whatever the media wants this to look like. Specifics - assuming nothing untoward happened - rob them of the opportunity to portray this as something its not, AND it gives those people inclined to support him some comfort that they are not wasting their time, energy, and money.

In spite of the good arguments against it here (and from Rush, apparently) I still think complete transparency is the best thing he could do here.



We have now entered the damned if he does, damned if he don't, room. Herman Cain could have 1000 women come forward in his defense, but it does not matter. This is not about the truth. This is politics of personal destruction. They have thier red meat. This will not go away, no matter how transparent Cain becomes.

Regretfully, somebody better vette the women making the accuasions. We need an operative who will drag these women thru the mud, just or unjust, as happened to the women who clinton harrassed. We need to understand their backgrounds, where they work, what they eat, where they live, etc. I hate to encourage or suggest this, but these women better be discredited or Cain will never hear the end of it.

When you have sleaze who will break an agreement, trust me, they have skeletons in the closet....... and even at this, it may not matter to the media.
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Re: Lynching Cain
« Reply #34 on: October 31, 2011, 03:23:19 PM »
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We have now entered the damned if he does, damned if he don't, room.

Just so.

And so Cain's people better get to work on their own "oppositional research" on these women, as you recommend.
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Re: Lynching Cain
« Reply #35 on: October 31, 2011, 03:47:16 PM »
At least give me a pubic hair to work with...

Cain details gesture that led to sex accusation

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"She was in my office one day, and I made a gesture saying -- and I was standing close to her -- and I made a gesture saying you are the same height as my wife.  And I brought my hand up to my chin saying, 'My wife comes up to my chin.'"  At that point, Cain gestured with his flattened palm near his chin.  "And that was put in there [the complaint] as something that made her uncomfortable," Cain said, "something that was in the sexual harassment charge."

Ball in your court, JournoLister at Politico.  Man up and put up.

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Re: Lynching Cain
« Reply #36 on: October 31, 2011, 03:57:59 PM »
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The press offensive was originally planned to discuss Cain's economic plans, but has turned into a series of questions about the sexual harassment allegations from the 1990s.

Well, doncha just question the timing?  Now, every interview will turn into Cain being asked for more information and more details.

Set UP.

I don't "love" Herman Cain as THE candidate, but this just boils my blood.
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Re: Lynching Cain
« Reply #37 on: October 31, 2011, 03:59:21 PM »
At least give me a pubic hair to work with...

Cain details gesture that led to sex accusation

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"She was in my office one day, and I made a gesture saying -- and I was standing close to her -- and I made a gesture saying you are the same height as my wife.  And I brought my hand up to my chin saying, 'My wife comes up to my chin.'"  At that point, Cain gestured with his flattened palm near his chin.  "And that was put in there [the complaint] as something that made her uncomfortable," Cain said, "something that was in the sexual harassment charge."

Ball in your court, JournoLister at Politico.  Man up and put up.


LOL....sounds like a lawsuit chaser.....Now will someone please check to see how many other sexual harrassment lawsuits she has filed?
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Re: Lynching Cain
« Reply #38 on: October 31, 2011, 04:54:23 PM »

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Screw social justice. I want cosmic justice for these cretins.

Divine justice. 

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Re: Lynching Cain
« Reply #39 on: October 31, 2011, 05:20:04 PM »
From what I've read on the net this is going to turn into a money bomb for Cain. ::thumbsup:: ::whoohoo::
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