Topic: Unilateral Israeli Strike on Iran?

[charlesoakwood]

The cartoon showed the Porter turning hard to port right in front of
the tanker.  First thought: Chinese software.

What's up with the Mecca meeting?

[Libertas]

I dunno, Achmed the Persian must have said no.

Their attention is turning to Myanmar Muzzies...

http://www.arabnews.com/muslim-world-pins-hopes-makkah-summit

[Libertas]

Meanwhile, back in Persia, Achmed is busy building a nuclear arsenal and itching to set the Middle East ablaze so he can embrace the 12th Muzzie Douchebag...

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/08/12/255885/iran-war-countdown-to-israel-doomsday/

Bibi has to break the deadlock in his cabinet and tell them to deuce or get off the pot!  The Persian crazies will be upon them soon, better to engage them on your terms than theirs...

[charlesoakwood]

Commander Zero with his sanctions against Iran has caused them
money problems therefore they are getting twitchy.  But, Zero can't
wage the dog in order to get reelected because it would skyrocket
the price of oil which would cause his approval to drop so low the
MSM couldn't even lie about it.  He has Arabstrung himself.

Edit: Mecca is a city in the Hejaz and the capital of Makkah.   hmmm

[Libertas]

Commander Null is boxed in, but higher oil/gas prices will happen regardless if the SCoaMF is in on the parade on not, and probably a higher political price to pay for not acting than acting, so he has no choice but to play follow the leader...something new and pathetic in modern American geopolitical strategy...but this is StymieWorld.

Mecca...Makkah...gateway to hell!

[charlesoakwood]

“Mecaca!!!”

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/ahmadinejad-arrives-saudi-islamic-summit-144925881.html

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad arrived on Monday in Saudi Arabia ahead of an extraordinary summit in Mecca expected to focus on the Syria conflict, on which Tehran and Riyadh have taken opposing sides.


                                                                                                       4580

[Libertas]

Maybe we'll get to see a Saudi-Persian cage match to the death...

 

Nah, not that lucky.

 

[charlesoakwood]

The King had Axmed sit at his
left side as they greeted guests.


Here's how this is going to go down IMO.........the Israelis will strike without warning and the US military will say they didn't know! The Israelis will inflict some serious visual damage on the ground and also take some heavy loses, the US will wait until Iran attempts to respond and we will "be drawn into it"  Lebanon will light up the northern border with Israel and Hamas will attack from the South, the Syrian dictator Al Assad will be saved, because no one wants him gone anyway, and nothing units a Country like a common external enemy!!  Oil will go to 150-200 a barrel and Obama will open the SPR immediately, .............the rest will depend on how well everyone does on the battlefield, Russia will be in the game with the Iranians, and we will be backing the Israelis and indirectly Saudi Arabia!!   
Should be scarey and stunning to watch at the same time!

[Libertas]

Not sure about $200, that is really pushing the panic button and assumes the worse case scenario on the ground.  Egypt is a wildcard and the MB pushing for war while the military resists could plunge them into a full-scale civil war.  Iraq and other gulf states could see collateral damage and further suck us in, and if it keeps expanding you could see China trying to jump into the fray, but I seriously doubt they could do much as their naval forces are not that built up yet to risk taking us on in a battle for the sea.

Time is running short though.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/9478044/Israeli-minister-warns-of-30-day-war-with-Iran.html

As much as I would like to see Israel hold off until after the election, I am not too certain I will get my wish, so Romney's team better get their poop in a group and get ahead of this curve and out-manuever Obama for the narrative.  He should be able to pin this debacle on his poor foreign policy record and say it is the weakness and indecision of the Obama Admin that led to this point, and tie in the Admin's policy of punishing the oil industry and refusing to open up all of America's potential reserves.  If we had done that groundwork in 2009 perhpas more of our own reserves could be coming on line as this crisis hit.  So it is a massive failure of foreign and domestic policy that got us here, and all of it can be laid at Obama's feet and that of his extremist anti-oil/anti-Israel/anti-military dem's in congress!

[Libertas]

Amhadisajerk spouts his Jew-hating bile some more...

http://news.yahoo.com/iran-israels-existence-insult-humanity-093922735.html

Saudi cleric slams Israel in like fashion and twists holocaust into more batsh*t-crazy Jewish blood libel BS.

http://freebeacon.com/saudi-cleric-questions-holocaust/

Perhaps the Saudis are going out of their way to prove their anti-Jew Arab-street-cred in prelude to their support of having the Persian put back in its box.

[Libertas]

Obama's latest creation set to visit Iran who is hosting the non-aligned summit...

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/world_now/2012/08/egyptian-president-to-visit-iran-news-media-report.html

Non-aligned my butt!  Aligned with whack-job Muzzies!

And what better cred to impress the batsh*t crazy Persians than crucifying your opponents back home in Egypt!

http://www.wnd.com/2012/08/arab-spring-run-amok-brotherhood-starts-crucifixions/

More blood on Obama's hands!  And oh, thatb MB relationship Huma has, let's keep sweeping that dirt under the rug too, OK!  What a massive foreign policy fuster cluck!

 

[Libertas]

In light of this  -

http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,6219.0.html

I can see why Bibi's patience is about gone.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-09-03/israeli-officials-see-gap-with-u-s-widening-over-iran.html

Just like any other punk regime, they'll screw over their own people if it means getting what the regime wants, and what Iran wants most is nuclear weapons, it thinks then it can dictate what it wants.

That asshole Obama is Iran's best friend, Israel is out of options, and the sh*t is about to hit the fan.

[charlesoakwood]

Link

Palestinian terrorists from the Gaza Strip fired two Grad rockets into Israel overnight Saturday, damaging two buildings in Netivot and causing five civilians to suffer shock symptoms. The attacks came just days after an escalation along Israel's southern border which resulted in the killing of six Palestinians the IDF said were plotting terrorist attacks against Israelis.
...
Defense Minister Ehud Barak said Friday that the IDF could conquer and exert control over the Gaza Strip if the cabinet orders such an operation. Speaking at a conference at the Fisher Brothers Institute for Air and Space Strategic Studies, Barak said “if the cabinet will want the IDF to conquer and control Gaza, this is something that is possible today if it is deemed fit."

[charlesoakwood]

9/8/2012, 10:10 PM
Hundreds of PA Arabs assault Jewish villagers in the Binyamin region, children cry as mob screams ‘slaughter the Jews.’

This and the links appear eerily similar to events here
in the USA and the way the national media covers them.
Good and evil, all over the world, are at war.

[Pandora]

Yes.

[John Florida]

Yes.

  !!

[Libertas]

The battle will only intensify.

[charlesoakwood]

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/us-aircraft-carrier-stennis-now-en-route-join-enterprise-and-eisenhower-just-iranian-coast

...the Stennis [CVN-74] has quietly departed Naval Base Kitsap-Bremerton and is off. It will join CVN-65 Enterprise (which is doing its last tour of duty ever before being decommissioned) and CVN-69 Eisenhower in the Arabian Sea, aka off the coast of Iran.

Expect Stennis to reach Iran... in the last third week of September [as opposed to the first third week of September].

http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2012/aug/27/stennis-departs-for-eight-month-deployment/

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2012/08-2/stennis%20launch_0.jpg

Source: Stratfor

ETA

Salami Slicing in the South China Sea
August 3, 2012
...
Across the sea, and on the eve of the ill-fated Phnom Penh summit, the China National Offshore Oil Corp. (CNOOC), a state-owned oil developer, put out a list of offshore blocks for bidding by foreign oil exploration companies. In this case, the blocks were within Vietnam's EEZ -- in fact, parts of some of these blocks had already been leased by Vietnam for exploration and development. Few analysts expect a foreign developer such as Exxon Mobil to legitimize China's over-the-top grab of Vietnam's economic rights. But CNOOC's leasing gambit is another assertion of China's South China Sea claims, in opposition to UNCLOS EEZ boundaries most observers thought were settled.
...
But what may appear trivial from a U.S. perspective could be vital to players like the Philippines and Vietnam, who are attempting to defend their territory and economic rights from an outright power grab. This fact may give these countries a greater incentive to be more aggressive than the United States in defending against China's encroachments. And should shooting break out between China and one of these small countries, policymakers in Beijing will have to consider the reputational and strategic consequences of blasting away at a weaker neighbor.
...

[Libertas]

I expect the Stennis to relieve Enterprise as she is on the last months of her final cruise, I would expect her back around December at the latest.

The Truman has been doing sea trials and CQ's since leaving DPIA, I would expect it could be brought into action quickly if needed.  The Washington left Yokasuka around Aug 20 and is on WestPac, and she could steam to the Gulf if needed before the Truman.

More importantly is where the LHD & LHAs are at.  Iwo Jima was deployed 3/27 and is current 5th Fleet Flag, she'll have to be releived by year end unless something pops up.  Bonhomme Richard is in 7th, and could steam into position easily enough, Wasp is in Atlantic.  Others are in port.  Boxer is working up in 3rd Fleet and could be made ready.

New moon tonight, haevn't heard any shots fired, but Bibi has issued his warnings, people are on notice.  Next dark night not till 10/15.

[Libertas]

Telegraph is reporting ships from 25 nations on the move to PG.  Obviously people are expecting something, the table is set, invitations are out, now it is just a matter of when...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/9545597/Armada-of-British-naval-power-massing-in-the-Gulf-as-Israel-prepares-an-Iran-strike.html