I have been thinking Wyoming, wide open spaces, and the least populated State in the Union. Plus plenty of high area if need be. Arizona is to close to Mexico. If the thing hit the fan, the Mexicans would storm the borders like Bee's to honey!
Oh, I hear you. It's not my perfect place to be when O'Bummer declares martial law and suspends all your freedoms and constitutional rights and they show up to disarm you with the SWAT team. I agree with the Mexico issue and with the Country being 'distracted' they'll come across the border by the 10's of thousands a week (oh.. I guess they're already doing that). Law enforcement will be so overloaded with revolt from within that the heavily armed Mexican drug/human smuggling folks will just start taking over homes/cars/trucks at gun-point (real easy after the law enforcement disarm us anyway).
We're already being invaded by California. California is in such desparate need that they're flooding over the State border into Arizona for years now. Which sort of SUCKS. You get these way left hippie communists moving in at such huge numbers that your 'once very conservative State' starts shifting more and more like California the more of them that move here (voter numbers for their side moving from 1% to much higher at elections).
Del, you live so far out in the boonies the only thing you have to worry about is the Cartelistas.
I found out the guy is more centrally located than I am. Where I'm 40-60 minutes from Downtown Phoenix, he's more like 20 minutes away.
A defensible position, access to food and water and family & friends to rely on will go a long way and trumps location, unless the latter is in a urban environment, then it gets dicey...not too many families will be equipped to hold of thousands of angry, frightened and starving humans. As in any equation it all comes down to evening the odds or swinging them into your favor.
It will be interesting to hear what comes out of your meeting. I think I can guess some of it, but it will be good hearing first hand. There is one question I am interesting in hearing an answer, but it may come up in your meeting so I will patiently await your update.
Good luck and thank the young man for his service, from all of us here at IAL!
The real stinker is water here. If that ever gets cut off, millions will just plain die. God did not intend for humans to live here in the summer. Even the indians here planted crops in the spring and then left and headed up into the mountains for the summer. They'd come back to harvest whatever grew in the fall and then spend the winter in the valley. The ultimate summer home/cottage setup. The winters are cold and harsh in the mountains but only 70's here in the valley. In the summer it's 115 here in the valley and only 80-90 in the mountains.
I found out from my friend this morning that the guy has installed big security doors in his house, has guns all about his home loaded, etc. I also found out he's about 65 years old but he's fit like a 20 year old. He swims several miles a week, etc. Also that he was from Michigan (went to Michigan State and was on their Swim Team before he went into the Navy Seals.)(I was from Michigan: small world thing).
I'd like to know what your question is.
I'll be sure to thank him for his service.. absolutely.
But back to the question(s) I really want to go into this prepared. I not only think it may be a 'resume' sort of an 'interview' where I am going to sell myself on what I could bring to the group (electrical, plumbing, water/sewer treatment, security training, civil engineering, hunting, etc, etc).. but I also want to -interview- them too. I don't want to be signing up with some off the wall cult group.
What are some good things to look out for and ask about?
Some I want to learn about are:
1. What is the intent? Are you stay in place and secure yourself and your family and just want to be left alone? Or... are you organizing with other 'cells' (for lack of a better word) to actually take action against the new dictator/government?
2. At what point are you making 'the call'? That you are deciding that now is the time to not show up for work, get your gear and your family and show up at the 'bunker'. What are the parameters that make that decision? Do you wait for your freedom of speech to be declared suspended? Do you wait for curfews? Do you wait for road checkpoints? Do you wait for disarmament to have started? What are the triggers?
3. How do we communicate (procedures) for when the internet is shut down and phones (cells) are disabled for everyone except law enforcement?
4. Are we keeping in our individual homes and just communicating? Or are we getting up and getting out of the valley and heading for Montana, etc? (Him installing security doors makes me think he plans on setting up base at his house and not leaving).
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I still need to make my own plans involving all these things. I have a daughter with Type 1 diabetes and she will literally die if I decide to 'go off the grid' after she's run out of insulin. So here I am left with a decision... so I show up to work at the drinking water plant (which is a place the new dictator and his/her government will protect with law enforcement/military) and continue to do my job here? Move my family into the facility to live? Or do I just not show up to work one day?
In the same concept of work... I don't think I'd pass the background check anymore for someone they want to be running their drinking water plant. I very much speak out against what our government has become, I own/read the Bible regularly and I get about 35 more checkmarks (failing) their checklist of the 40 things or so they look at to see if you are not a terrorist. The huge things that make me think they will just replace me at work (and ship me off to a reeducation camp) is I own guns, read the Bible, speak out against the current government and keep talking about this thing called the Constitution and limited government.
So what do I do? I don't know. I've got the 'normal' wife that can't face reality and thinks -everything will be just fine, just trust Jesus-. Which she has a point. But I don't want to be that Jew on the training heading to the gas chamber that keeps telling my family, 'it can't get any worse than this'... all the way into the gas chamber.
Bah.... stress.
