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Re: HR 822 Nefarious - National CCW Reciprocity
« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2011, 06:58:29 PM »

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Re: HR 822 Nefarious - National CCW Reciprocity
« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2011, 06:57:22 AM »
I'm on enough lists already...

Serve in the Armed Forces?  Government has your prints on file, and a full set of your service record.

Contribute to a political party or candidate?  Hell, everybody has your name!

Driver's License?  You are in more databases than you can count!

Passport?  Hunting/fishing license?  Birth records?  Transcripts?  Associations/Clubs?  Subscriptions?  Financial records?  Tax returns?  The list is endless...

And don't forget how much can get mined and sifted in the electronic frontier, especially by the NSA!

Sometimes I figure "what's one more?"...they know where I am already!
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Re: HR 822 Nefarious - National CCW Reciprocity
« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2011, 08:52:50 AM »
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Serve in the Armed Forces?  Government has your prints on file, and a full set of your service record.

And if you've relatively recently been in the military (since at least 1996) they also have your DNA on file. I was a combat medic in the Army - enlisted in 1996 and one of my tasks at that time was to take DNA samples from every soldier in my company. We would draw some blood and fill in a dime-sized circle on a cardboard template - 5 or 6 such circles actually - and turn them over to the officer in charge of our medical unit who would then file them away for appropriate long-term storage.
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Re: HR 822 Nefarious - National CCW Reciprocity
« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2011, 10:41:13 AM »
Nice.  Just think of the criminality one could get set up with if that crap fell into the wrong hands?!   ::speechless::
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Re: HR 822 Nefarious - National CCW Reciprocity
« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2011, 10:43:37 AM »
FYI - HR 822 passed 272-154, on to the Senate, where no doubt Schumer and the rest of the asshats will obliterate the thing with so many batsh*t crazy amendments it dies a quick death...if it is even brought up by Dingy...

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/house-passes-concealed-weapons-bill-that-would-allow-interstate-travel/
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Re: HR 822 Nefarious - National CCW Reciprocity
« Reply #25 on: November 17, 2011, 11:50:03 AM »
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Serve in the Armed Forces?  Government has your prints on file, and a full set of your service record.

And if you've relatively recently been in the military (since at least 1996) they also have your DNA on file. I was a combat medic in the Army - enlisted in 1996 and one of my tasks at that time was to take DNA samples from every soldier in my company. We would draw some blood and fill in a dime-sized circle on a cardboard template - 5 or 6 such circles actually - and turn them over to the officer in charge of our medical unit who would then file them away for appropriate long-term storage.

Would it be cynical of me to suspect that, judging by general governmental inefficiency, none of those DNA samples were stored appropriately and are now worthless?
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Re: HR 822 Nefarious - National CCW Reciprocity
« Reply #26 on: November 17, 2011, 02:33:58 PM »
@Pan:

I suppose it's possible - the government screws up EVERYTHING it touches after all. I'm not banking on that though. I'm going to operate on the assumption that my DNA is on a government database somewhere.
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government.” 
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"The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates."
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