Topic: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...

[charlesoakwood]

Think China's forgotten their axe would be in a sling if we hadn't intervened last time?

[Glock32]

Hell even Vietnam has been appealing to us for help. To us.  For help against...China.

Let's see, in the 70s after we left Vietnam the newly victorious communist North consolidated the whole country under its commie banner. Then they fought a war against fellow commies: China and the Khmer Rouge. And the animosity between Red China and the USSR was well known too.

What's up with the brotherhood of the proletariat?  Workers of the world unite?

Good lord the liberals live in Fantasyland.

[Libertas]

ChiCom's still exercising their naval capability, underway replishment is not easy, but the ChiCom's seem determined, their determination in all aspects of their growing capability should be the clearest indicator of their intentions - they mean to be a dominant world power and for a long time.

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htlog/articles/20121218.aspx

[charlesoakwood]

This is the thread they are stringing their pearls on.

[Libertas]

And we get the pearl necklass we didn't ask for or want.   

[charlesoakwood]

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/12/31/uk-japan-apology-idUKBRE8BU03020121231

[Japan'a new Prime Minister Shinzo Abe] ... has promised not to yield in a territorial row with China over tiny islands in the East China Sea - known as the Senkaku in Japan and the Diaoyu in China - and boost defence spending to counter China's growing influence.


A Chinese maritime surveillance vessel, foreground, sails alongside a Japan Coast Guard patrol ship in Japanese territorial waters near the Senkaku Islands in September. (Asahi Shimbun file photo)
Chinese think tank: conflict inevitable between Japan, China over Senkakus

If looks are any indication that Chinese boat says it's time to negotiate.  Then again, it's reported they've sent a new ship to join in.


http://www.businessinsider.com/chinas-054a-liuzhou-warship-in-south-china-sea-fleet-2012-12#ixzz2Gdxxuq11



Other interesting images:  http://www.defence.pk/forums/chinese-defence/84213-chinese-navy-plan-news-discussions-43.html

[Libertas]

I looks like to me the ChiCom's brought a spy ship to a gun fight.  I'll put a few Yen down on the Jap's.  

They won't want to dirty up their pretty new one, they need that to scare us.

[Libertas]

Comrades have a new toy, maybe they'll bring it to Paris or Oshkosh or something see we can get a closer look and find out if it is good or not...

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2013/01/chinas-new-transport/

   GeoEye

[charlesoakwood]

Between Russia giving them machine tools and US giving them classified intellectual information they've reached the point of pushing out knock-offs from one end to the other.  They'll be fully functional w/in five years. 

[Libertas]

And we'll be 4 more years in decline, at least...

 

[charlesoakwood]

 Japan scrambled eight fighter jets on Thursday after a Chinese state-owned plane breached its airspace for the first time, over islands at the centre of a dispute between the countries.

Unchartered waters: Japan and China scramble fighter jets in island dispute

Japan scrambles jets to head off China plane


Zero is all in agreement with China's statement,  "Yet new Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe turned the facts upside down when he claimed Friday that China has deliberately targeted Japanese companies as part of a strategy to confront Japan over the territorial dispute. ",  while forgetting how the Japanese people and company's were assaulted not too long ago.

assaults:
here,  here,   here and  here

[Libertas]

Must be Jews in Japan, who knew?

[charlesoakwood]

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[Libertas]

You did say Zero is taking the Chi-Com position right?  My humor falls flat once again...   

[charlesoakwood]

Kyodo News - a Chinese warship last week directed "fire-control" radar against Japan's Maritime Self-Defense Force vessel in the East China Sea,...

Zero is viewing this from and economic currency perspective.  It's simpler than that;  It's China's desire to dominate and control the China Seas.  But their observation that both states are dancing on a tripwire is correct.

ETA

Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force destroyer was   "painted"  by fire control-radar from two People's Liberation Army warships,

[Libertas]

As in most things relating to national security the headless chickens running around ZH in a panic explodes in number for such stories.

Using targeting radar on potential foes is nothing new, but trusting the mental acuity and restraint of the opposing commander and his weapons control team can be problematic...Japan, anybody confronting these clowns should have all tracking, targeting and weapons systems ready to rock if these bozos so much as flinch!

The Chi-Com's are playing a dangerous game, they beter not slip up or it'll be on like Donkey Kong!

[charlesoakwood]

Enter stage left, Russia: Is Russia in cahoots with China to divide and conquer or is it simply another shark in the pool?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-02-07/russian-flyover-prompts-japanese-fighter-jet-scramble-abe-opens-second-disputed-isla

 From Reuters: "Two Russian fighter jets briefly entered Japan's air space near disputed islands and the northern island of Hokkaido on Thursday, prompting Japan to scramble combat fighters and lodge a protest, Japan's Foreign Ministry said." In other words, Russia is making it very clear that as Japan loses more credibility in the foreign affairs arena, China will not be the only one to gain from Japan's loss, and that Russia has every intention of claiming what it too believes rightfully belongs to Putin.

[Libertas]

Ivan doesn't want to look impotent, he also wants to let China know that they will not be the only nation fighting to gain more resources should the opportunity arise, and arise it will...if the currency wars don't ignite the wars of conquest the thirst for resources will.

[charlesoakwood]

Is China Mobilizing For A War With Japan?

...a Chinese mobilization in response to the ongoing territorial feud with Japan over the Diaoyu/Senkaku islands (and the proximal massive gas field)

Source:Falun Gong-affiliated NTDTV
...major troop movements and mobilization of various types of military vehicles and artillery into the Fujian and Zhejian provinces

...NTDTV transmission-- According to mainland media quoted the "People's Daily" front-page article claiming that China will not change in point of view on the issue of the Diaoyu Islands , and have to prepare to win the war.



...[note also these provinces are closest to Taiwan and the Okinawa Prefecture]

[Libertas]

Loading material on assault ships would be the big red balloon, if that goes up strap in tight, because that means going in heavy and going in to stay.