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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #200 on: October 25, 2018, 08:11:33 AM »
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2018/10/24/us-war-with-china-is-likely-in-15-years-retired-general-says/

15 years?



I don't think we have 15 years...we will be still in the throes of or coming out of CWII...
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« Reply #201 on: November 30, 2018, 07:51:43 AM »
Obviously, the Chi-Com's are preparing first-strike platforms funded by us and largely based on technology swiped from us (or "donated" by Dems).

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-28/miscalculation-china-building-more-nuclear-subs-pentagon-estimated-report

Yeah...let's waste more time and resources...things we are seriously running short on...on garbage like NATO and an ungrateful Europe and a Pan-Islamic Hegemony seeking megalomaniac in Turkey...and sh*tholes in Afghanistan...and corrupt America-hating outfits like the UN...and not confront the one strategic foe in the Pacific that posses a clear threat...brilliant, eh?

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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #202 on: January 01, 2019, 03:15:58 PM »
Loopy Lou Yuan...Yuan nuclear war, Lou? 

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-01-01/chinese-admiral-wants-sink-two-us-aircraft-carriers-over-south-china-sea

Xi needs to muzzle his Admiral...or upgrade those Chi-Com VIP bunkers.
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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #203 on: August 19, 2019, 07:15:21 AM »
"The police are doing things that are totally unacceptable," said Yim, a protester who like many others gave only one name.

"They are hurting citizens. They aren't protecting us."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/defiant-hong-kong-protesters-vow-huge-rally-despite-220012829.html

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It's called Communist socialism...they are meant to do unacceptable things and hurt people...

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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #204 on: August 19, 2019, 11:30:59 AM »
https://news.yahoo.com/china-lashes-taiwan-over-hong-051547548.html

Heh!  Good for Taiwan!

Hey, Ma?  Rule of law?!  Ha, yu make me raff!!!
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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #205 on: August 21, 2019, 07:27:59 AM »
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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #206 on: November 18, 2019, 11:37:55 AM »
Chi-Com Defense Chief Wun Hung Lo, er We Feelme (Wei Fenghe)...HTF he is...threatens US to butt out of region and no more of this "independence" crap from Taiwan!

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/beijing-demands-us-stop-flexing-muscles-sends-new-carrier-south-china-sea

Wei be full of commie crap!

Oh, and your new toy?



Rook rike junk!

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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #207 on: April 28, 2020, 10:21:27 AM »
Sick of these Chi-Com goons!

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/chinese-warns-us-halt-military-operations-south-china-sea

Hey, the war already started...so I say start beating these thugs into mush! 

Phase I - Rape America of manufacturing, reap the side benefits of stealing tech and creating the net in-flow to fund expansionist desires and military strength.

Phase II - String of Pearls, dominatre the sealanes from Africa to Asia.

Phase III - Unleash a bioweapon on the world, see if anybody gives a FF, if not Phase IV is easy.

Phase IV - Bully everybody into obedience or crush them.

I say eff their Phase IV!

Anybody looking at this map and thinking they can get away with owning the South China Sea is insane!



They thirst for war...and I say choke them with it!  It's going to happen anyway...slay them before they get stronger!
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« Reply #208 on: April 28, 2020, 06:14:14 PM »
  They're dick waving they want no part of a war.
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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #209 on: April 29, 2020, 08:12:11 AM »
Cut the little yellow bugger off!
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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #210 on: April 29, 2020, 02:56:16 PM »

The map above has the claimed Chinese territory in dashed lines. I read that many US text books and maps are made in China, where they edit the maps to include the dashed lines.
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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #211 on: April 29, 2020, 03:08:51 PM »
It's pure BS!  Cannot seize international waters or lie about doing it!  BS stops when the hammer drops!
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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #212 on: May 01, 2020, 08:36:11 AM »




https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/chinas-belt-and-road-partners-beg-beijing-bilateral-bailouts

Ohh, somebody's harem not liking the bed they crawled into so eagerly at the start...

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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #213 on: May 27, 2020, 09:06:37 AM »
Not that they don't deserve it...for unleashing bio-weapon terror on the world with their CCP virus...

https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/war-next

...but for now all we're doing is buzzing them...

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2020/05/pics-us-b-1b-bombers-just-flew-over-the-south-china-sea/?utm_source=whatfinger

...but they've earned an economic ass-kicking so that for sure is going to increase! 
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« Reply #214 on: May 27, 2020, 08:31:32 PM »
  They will eat those countries if they don't pay.
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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #215 on: June 19, 2020, 12:48:14 PM »
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/china-develops-weapons-to-fry-us-electric-grid-eyes-high-tech-pearl-harbor-attack

These Chi-Com devils merely playing catchup...thanks not so much to stealing from us, but by being allowed to by democommies...it was well-documented under both Clinton and Obama Communist China had no better friend...and the use of such a weapon ensures every boomer at sea will unload their full arsenals on Communist China...so they won't inherit anything but a radioactive wasteland...

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And Biden would obediently capitulate...
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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #216 on: July 07, 2020, 08:42:33 AM »
Yeah?

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-touts-aircraft-carrier-killer-missiles-us-supercarriers-operate-south-china-sea

I guess that's why they're trying to operate one...so it can be easily sunk...   ::laughonfloor::

CHiCom humor...puking-dog hilarious!
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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #217 on: July 16, 2020, 09:37:09 AM »
OK, no longer posting to the trade thread...in my opinion the following order is not only prudent, there simply is no other option...since agreeing to abide by the previous terms on our part while Communist China has broken it to pieces would only makes us stupid and weak...

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-using-nord-stream-2-exit-nato

With the Chi-Com crackdown in Hong Kong precipitating this action...and their continued aggressive annexation of South East Asian territorial and international waters and lands against international law and the man-made construction of land areas for military bases being constructed in the same areas and their release upon the world of the latest Corona strain...we are now entering a potential military arena and should now be on a war footing, cold or hot to be determined by how sane the Chi-Com's are about their totalitarian expansion desires...with all the geo-political strategery and economic warfare elements stepping up their vigor.
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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #218 on: July 19, 2020, 12:43:33 PM »
This is good.  Comments in red are mine.

In addition to occasionally provocative but mostly dreadfully unimaginative propaganda tweets, the editor in chief of China's Global Times Hu Xijing represents a useful barometer of sentiment among Beijing's top power echelons, which in a time when a new cold war has broken out between the US and China, can prove rather valuable.

Which is why the following episode is rather informative in terms of how China views the current tit-for-tat in diplomatic and tech warfare between the two superpowers. In an op-ed in his Global Times, Hu Xijin writes that toward the end of his dialogue with Qiu Zhenhai, a Phoenix TV commentator on Friday night, in a video chat about the current US crackdown on China, a netizen asked: Will there be a war between China and the US?

Here's what Hu responded:

First, as the strategic mutual trust between China and the US has almost evaporated and the US has strengthened its military presence in China's close neighborhood, the risk of accidental military frictions between China and the US has increased compared with the past. Moreover, when and if such friction occurs, it will be more politically difficult to keep it under control through peaceful means or to stop it from simmering beyond peaceful intentions.


Yup, Xi's hatchet-man is butthurt that Chimerica (more on this later) is being destroyed, and justly so.  The "close neighborhood" exists only in the minds of totalitarian ChiCom elite...the man-made militarized islands in the disputed territories along with all other natural land masses in said area have traditionally belonged to neighboring nations like the Philippines, Vietnam and Malaysia.

Second, neither China nor the US wants a military conflict with the other side. Although both militaries are preparing for the worst-case scenario, neither wants a military showdown. There is therefore room for both sides to manage risks and avoid a military crisis.

Hardly, due to disingenuous ChiCom rhetoric...any such avoidance...if the CHi-Com's were honest...would require America to back down and resume being the battered wife in the Chimerica abusive marriage.

Third, China is peace-loving in nature. We have no ambition to establish hegemony and replace the US. We will not go further in the Pacific or the Indian Ocean to challenge US interests. China has a profound historical conclusion that a belligerent state will eventually perish. China is a cautious major country.

OK, that is as hilarious as it is dead wrong.  Ask the people of Tibet, India, Taiwan, Vietnam and South Korea (and the US!)...and ask their own citizens murdered in hundreds of actions from the liquidation of the landowners begun in 1948 through the 10 year cultural extermination and dozens and dozens of internal crackdowns and massacres leading up to the present day Hong Kong treachery.

Fourth, China has a very restrained definition of its core interests, all of which are as close as just on its doorstep. But if China, as a great power, is still subjected to serious military provocation, we have nothing to think about except for taking the challenge. China will take the call and will surely defeat the US on our doorstep. When it comes to our ability to mobilize people and resources to safeguard China's core interests, when it comes to the will to fight to the end, Washington can hardly compare with Beijing, and Washington knows this better than we do.

Even though I don't know what the lowest ebb in US-China relations might be, I know China has a clear principle that makes hegemons like the US cautious when making moves around China. Of course, I hope that China and the US can manage all accidents well.


Ha!  Repeating "the doorstep" lie again and if this aggression and international-law spurning militarization of South East Asia is "restrained" action then appeasing this bully is only going to make certain her totalitarian hegemony will enslave the entire region.  Best to die fighting for freedom than live on your knees.

Taking this naive interpretation one step further, on Saturday Hu tweeted that "China won’t engage in a cold war. China will insist on opening-up to outside world, including to the US. Trump govt is the most active in starting a new cold war & decoupling, but it’s not in line with interests of American society, nor the interests of Europe. It can’t last long."

Well, that's one perspective. For a different, and far more realistic and pragmatic one,read the latest thoughts from historian Niall Ferguson, in which he explains that "China has already declared cold war on US."


Wrong again...as we see in the Ferguson article...the only ones for going back to being the battered bride in the doomed Chemrica marriage is the special interests in America who are captains of crony-capitalist empires known by the wise as Globalists...and the party that is aligned with those same interests that have destroyed American jobs and stolen American wealth?  Yup, democrats!

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/global-times-editor-chief-answers-if-there-will-be-war-between-china-and-us

Next up, Niall Ferguson -

“We are in the foothills of a Cold War.” Those were the words of Henry Kissinger when I interviewed him at the Bloomberg New Economy Forum in Beijing last November.

The observation in itself was not wholly startling. It had seemed obvious to me since early last year that a new Cold War — between the U.S. and China — had begun. This insight wasn’t just based on interviews with elder statesmen. Counterintuitive as it may seem, I had picked up the idea from binge-reading Chinese science fiction.

First, the history.

What had started out in early 2018 as a trade war over tariffs and intellectual property theft had by the end of the year metamorphosed into a technology war over the global dominance of the Chinese company Huawei Technologies Co. in 5G network telecommunications; an ideological confrontation in response to Beijing’s treatment of the Uighur minority in China’s Xinjiang region and the pro-democracy protesters in Hong Kong; and an escalation of old frictions over Taiwan and the South China Sea.

Nevertheless, for Kissinger, of all people, to acknowledge that we were in the opening phase of Cold War II was remarkable.

Since his first secret visit to Beijing in 1971, Kissinger has been the master-builder of that policy of U.S.-Chinese engagement which, for 45 years, was a leitmotif of U.S. foreign policy. It fundamentally altered the balance of power at the mid-point of the Cold War, to the disadvantage of the Soviet Union. It created the geopolitical conditions for China’s industrial revolution, the biggest and fastest in history. And it led, after China’s accession to the World Trade Organization, to that extraordinary financial symbiosis which Moritz Schularick and I christened “Chimerica” in 2007.

How did relations between Beijing and Washington sour so quickly that even Kissinger now speaks of Cold War?

The conventional answer to that question is that President Donald Trump has swung like a wrecking ball into the “liberal international order” and that Cold War II is only one of the adverse consequences of his “America First” strategy.

Yet that view attaches too much importance to the change in U.S. foreign policy since 2016, and not enough to the change in Chinese foreign policy that came four years earlier, when Xi Jinping became general secretary of the Chinese Communist Party. Future historians will discern that the decline and fall of Chimerica began in the wake of the global financial crisis, as a new Chinese leader drew the conclusion that there was no longer any need to hide the light of China’s ambition under the bushel that Deng Xiaoping had famously recommended.

When Middle America voted for Trump four years ago, it was partly a backlash against the asymmetric payoffs of engagement and its economic corollary, globalization. Not only had the economic benefits of Chimerica gone disproportionately to China, not only had its costs been borne disproportionately by working-class Americans, but now those same Americans saw that their elected leaders in Washington had acted as midwives at the birth of a new strategic superpower — a challenger for global predominance even more formidable, because economically stronger, than the Soviet Union.


It is not only Kissinger who recognizes that the relationship with Beijing has soured. Orville Schell, another long-time believer in engagement, recently conceded that the approach had foundered “because of the CCP’s deep ambivalence about the way engaging in a truly meaningful way might lead to demands for more reform and change and its ultimate demise.”

Conservative critics of engagement, meanwhile, are eager to dance on its grave, urging that the People’s Republic be economically “quarantined,” its role in global supply chains drastically reduced. There is a spring in the step of the more Sinophobic members of the Trump administration, notably Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, deputy National Security Adviser Matt Pottinger and trade adviser Peter Navarro. For the past three and a half years they have been arguing that the single most important thing about Trump's presidency was that he had changed the course of U.S. policy towards China, a shift from engagement to competition spelled out in the 2017 National Security Strategy. The events of 2020 would seem to have vindicated them.

The Covid-19 pandemic has done more than intensify Cold War II. It has revealed its existence to those who last year doubted it. The Chinese Communist Party caused this disaster — first by covering up how dangerous the new virus SARS-CoV-2 was, then by delaying the measures that might have prevented its worldwide spread.

Yet now China wants to claim the credit for saving the world from the crisis it caused. Liberally exporting cheap and not wholly reliable ventilators, testing kits and face masks, the Chinese government has sought to snatch victory from the jaws of a defeat it inflicted. The deputy director of the Chinese Foreign Ministry’s information department has gone so far as to endorse a conspiracy theory that the coronavirus originated in the U.S. and retweet an article claiming that an American team had brought the virus with them when they participated in the World Military Games in Wuhan last October.

Just as implausible are Chinese claims that the U.S. is somehow behind the recurrent waves of pro-democracy protest in Hong Kong. The current confrontation over the former British colony’s status is unambiguously Made in China. As Pompeo has said, the new National Security Law Beijing imposed on Hong Kong last Tuesday effectively “destroys” the territory’s semi-autonomy and tears up the 1984 Sino-British joint declaration, which guaranteed that Hong Kong would retain its own legal system for 50 years after its handover to People’s Republic in 1997.

In this context, it is not really surprising that American public sentiment towards China has become markedly more hawkish since 2017, especially among older voters.


(Skipping over the specious "bipartisan" and re-engineered/re-bnranding of Chimerica as some new swell deal euphemism different from the predecessors battered bride model fantasy parts to the cold hard bottom line...)

Kissinger is often thought of (in my view, wrongly) as the supreme American exponent of Realpolitik. But this is something much harsher than realism. This is intergalactic Darwinism.

Of course, you may say, it’s just sci-fi. Yes, but "The Dark Forest" gives us an insight into something we think too little about: how Xi’s China thinks. It’s not up to us whether or not we have a Cold War with China, if China has already declared Cold War on us.

Not only are we already in the foothills of that new Cold War; those foothills are also impenetrably covered in a dark forest of China’s devising.


https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/niall-ferguson-china-has-already-declared-cold-war-us

Yup, and Xi had help back here from a plethora of domestic enemies aiding this foreign power...and if Biden or whoever has power in 2021...America will resume being the battered Chimerica bride...and enjoy the beatings under she breaths no more.
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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #219 on: July 19, 2020, 12:58:44 PM »
Just wait til that big ass dam breaks, they're finished.