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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #120 on: February 11, 2013, 06:39:17 AM »
Pretty good round up by VDH on the fallcy of the Obama Doctrine -

http://victorhanson.com/articles/hanson020713.html

Yup, throw the rosy prognosis out.
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« Reply #121 on: February 11, 2013, 07:04:09 AM »
Oh, and Cambodia is just one of the poor nations China has under its thumb.

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htproc/articles/20130207.aspx

The string of pearls has a few ordinary items accompnying it.
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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #122 on: February 19, 2013, 09:00:16 PM »
Chi-Com's appear to be ramping up the battle for space as well, I'm sure this is all for peaceful things of course!

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http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htspace/articles/20130213.aspx
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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #123 on: February 19, 2013, 09:22:05 PM »
Chi-Com's appear to be ramping up the battle for space as well, I'm sure this is all for peaceful things of course!

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http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htspace/articles/20130213.aspx

All thanks to Bill Clinton who gave sensitive materials on how to design and build satellites to China.
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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #124 on: February 19, 2013, 09:55:11 PM »

They've already done target practice on their own satellites after they get up there they will zero in on their perceived opponents.
 

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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #125 on: February 20, 2013, 12:13:56 AM »
Loading material on assault ships would be the big red balloon, if that goes up strap in tight, because that means going in heavy and going in to stay.

Here is a Chinese vid on the Senkaku dust up.  A nice piece of propaganda and saber rattling rolled together with action scenes.  Just follow the link and click on the vid.  It's subtitled just for us.

http://www.ntdtv.com/xtr/b5/2013/02/16/a848019.html


There is a vid from the same news source on the military build up... I'm trying to find where I filed it.  No subtitles but lots of footage of war machinery.

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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #126 on: February 20, 2013, 07:04:29 AM »
OK then, "New Tang Dynasty Television", nothing ominous there, eh?  The Tang Dynasty is recognized by many historians as the high point of Chinese civilization.  They had unrivaled wealth and power, dominated other areas like Korea, Japan and what we know as present day Vietnam.

As for the clip, interesting how they lead people by the nose, our libiots in the MFM look like pikers compared to these well-polished propagandists!

I like the dual impact of their slants, very clever!  The mention of exercises at Camp Pendleton eliciting fears of foreign devils meddling in their affairs and the call to arms for Our Country is very slick.  People who underestimate the Chi-Com's do so at their own peril!

What is going on with Japan and Taiwan certainly seems to indicate that the desires of the Chi-Com's is little different from the desires of her Tang Dynasty ancestors.

All her neighbors ought to be wary of and properly positioned to repel the Chinese threat.
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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #127 on: February 27, 2013, 11:42:23 AM »
I like how it says "hard to spot", not impossible or even too difficult, just hard.  I'm guessing not true stealth.

If they think it's all that, then let it come out and play!

We'll see how she handles the real world.

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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-02-27/china-launches-new-stealth-frigate
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« Reply #128 on: March 10, 2013, 01:44:35 PM »
Zero says "China To Japan: Hand Over The Senkakus Or Your Economy Gets It"  but it sounds more like an overture to make up.  Sort of a rough foreplay,

[blockquote]China on Saturday demanded that Japan reverse its nationalization of the Senkakus and address the sovereignty dispute through negotiations, urging Tokyo to “make concrete efforts” to prevent fraught bilateral ties from spiralling out of control.

... at a news conference, Yang denounced Japan’s Sept. 11 purchase of the Senkaku islets ... from a Saitama businessman, which effectively nationalized the entire chain, saying the move has “caused great damage to China-Japan relations and undermined stability in the region.”
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“The Chinese side is ready to continue to develop a strategic relationship of mutual benefit with Japan,” he said. [/blockquote]   

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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #129 on: March 10, 2013, 02:58:23 PM »
They have to learn how to say "Shove it up your Commie butt" in Chinese.

Or just start killing them.

I'd do both.
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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #130 on: March 11, 2013, 12:50:37 PM »

A little nudging from the Japanese:

Game of Thrones: Japan Arms the Philippines

The closer relationship makes sense for Japan, ... And it makes sense for the Philippines as well. ... the Philippines ...[is] deeply concerned about China’s muscle flexing ... . Chinese patrol ships have been repeatedly harassing Filipino fishing ships over the past few months... .

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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #131 on: March 11, 2013, 01:53:09 PM »
Makes sense, IIRC we argued some time ago for such alliances, makes sense, and the ChiCom's don't have us to blame, it is these two doing it themselves.   ::thumbsup::
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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #132 on: March 13, 2013, 07:16:56 AM »
From last summer, a bit wordy, but it makes some good points.

http://thediplomat.com/2012/08/30/chinas-not-so-scary-navy/?all=true

I would only add that the Chinese may well be communist, but they still share their traditional cultural ability to think long term, they may not be global-reach blue-water anytime soon, but if they stay on the path they are on and manage to survive the economic turmoil that is sure to rock the globe, yeah, they could be numero uno pretty quick.

What especially wories me if the sheer size of their population, if they want to go on a march of overwhelm areas with foot soldiers they could do it easily, and in an economically ravaged world filled with hungry depserate and scared people and poorly functioning governments (if any)...much of the globe would be ripe for conquest by the largest ravenous swarm out there.
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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #133 on: April 12, 2013, 10:30:31 PM »

China upping the ante?
 [blockquote]    Express - NORTH KOREA has warned Japan that Tokyo would be the first target in the event of a war on the Korean Peninsula, as it increased threats of an attack.[/blockquote] I am beginning to imagine this NoKo move as a ploy to gain South China Sea concessions .

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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #134 on: April 13, 2013, 12:07:56 PM »
Shakedown.  Give the Nork's territorial concessions and they'll stand down.  Pah!  Tell 'em to pound sand!  Ask Israel how concessions got them nothing but more trouble!  There is no appeasement of crazies, keep them isolated and kill them if they move, that's it, period.
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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #135 on: April 20, 2013, 02:08:24 PM »

China deploys DF-21D anti-ship ballistic missile off Taiwan

per Wiki:
The Dong-Feng 21 (DF-21; NATO reporting name CSS-5 [Mod-4]- Dong-Feng ( literally "East Wind")) is a two-stage, solid-propellant, single-warhead medium-range ballistic missile (MRBM) in the Dong Feng series developed by China Changfeng Mechanics and Electronics Technology Academy.
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The latest DF-21D [CSS-5 Mod-4] was said to be the world's first anti-ship ballistic missile (ASBM). The DF-21 has also been developed into a space-capable anti-satellite/anti-missile weapon carrier.

http://www.oursportscentral.com/services/history/wiki.php?title=File:PLA_ballistic_missiles_range.jpg


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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #136 on: April 21, 2013, 11:31:17 AM »
Yeah, gosh...wonder who they intend to use that bugger against?

 ::)

Guess just what jumped up our attack sub target menu?   ;)
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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #137 on: April 24, 2013, 01:05:16 AM »

04/23/2013 23:11 -0400
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Moments ago Kyodo reported that Japan's Defense Ministry said on Tuesday that "about 1,000 officers of the nation's Self-Defense Forces will participate in a U.S. drill to be held in California in June involving recapturing control of an isolated island."
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Is it, is it that China's got Obama's back against the wall?  Japan seems to be our only "old friend" he's assisting.  Or is he leading them down the garden path?  No, it couldn't be that outcome, there's no love for China here for him to lie about that.  Whatever he's thinking he's in over his head.  Maybe this will be FDR part deux Chinese style.


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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #138 on: April 24, 2013, 06:48:10 AM »
Well...

Everytime any military ship is seen steaming in the ocean the zenophobic PaulBots, Code Pinkers and sundry basement-dwelling nerds get their panties in a twist, and like one commenter astutely noted "If that's an armada of ships, then I'm Davey Jones. That photo looks like it was taken on Lake Erie." this is not what an American power-challenge looks like.  That there is an exercise being staged with Japan in CA to similate retaking an island is on its face prudent and practical.  The bigger questions to ask are a) are the Chi-Com's interested in actual capture or intimidation and b) even if an island was captured by the Chi-Com's would Emperor Barry actually do anyting about it?
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Re: ChiCom ground sat in Aus tracks US and AUS ships ...
« Reply #139 on: April 24, 2013, 05:25:42 PM »

Good thoughts all.  I'll stand by my observation; "Whatever he's thinking he's in over his head".