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Addressing the Gay Issue
« on: November 27, 2011, 11:24:40 AM »
Addressing the Gay Issue
Posted: November 27, 2011 in Burt Prelutsky
Source: http://www.bernardgoldberg.com/addressing-the-gay-issue/?utm_source=BernardGoldberg.com+Newsletter&utm_campaign=6619818444-NEWSLETTER&utm_medium=email
 
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Heterosexuals are always being accused by homosexuals of being narrow-minded and intolerant, but have any of them ever said they understood why straights might regard sodomy as disgusting behavior?
 
Have they ever said that although we all grasp the fact that not all homosexuals are pedophiles, it still behooves them to speak out against adults having gay sex with “consenting” teenagers and, furthermore, why it would be inappropriate and criminally irresponsible for the Boy Scouts to allow homosexuals to be Scout Masters and to oversee camping trips? Just as an aside, I can’t help reflecting on the fact that “camping” is a word long used to describe gays acting out in the most outrageous fashion.
 
Also, when they defend their life style because they were “born that way,” are they blind to the fact that pederasts and rapists and, I dare say, serial killers, could, in their own defense, make the identical claim?
 
I happen to know a great many conservatives, and I don’t know a single one who believes that gays should be bullied, beaten, persecuted or ostracized by their families. That’s not to say there aren’t any, but I’m happy to report that I haven’t run into them. At the same time, I don’t know why a crime committed against a homosexual should be deemed a “hate crime” and carry a heavier penalty in a court of law than the very same offense when the victim happens to be a heterosexual..........<SNIP>

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Re: Addressing the Gay Issue
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2011, 02:26:34 PM »
Our view on the Gay community is the one that libs have dumped on us and the gays chose to believe it.
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Re: Addressing the Gay Issue
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2011, 02:35:33 PM »
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Our view on the Gay community is the one that libs have dumped on us and the gays chose to believe it.

They have chosen to believe it because they are libs themselves and their friends and leaders would never lie to them.

The real problem is no mater how conservatives act, or react as the case may be, the label sticks.
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Re: Addressing the Gay Issue
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2011, 04:08:54 PM »
Ask them how they feel about the Leftist's bending over backwards to appease Muzzies and introduce Sharia into our legal system and how they'd like to live under the cult's theocracy, and then ask them if they know of Christians looking to do the same.  The answer should be obvious, but they are tied in with the Left and their fate is of their own chosing.
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Re: Addressing the Gay Issue
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2011, 04:12:01 PM »
Some people are born kleptomanics: They like to steal. I would never hate them or treat them badly, and yet they must confront the fact that stealing is wrong despite the fact they were born that way.

Some people are born alcoholics: They like to get drunk. I would never hate them or treat them badly, and yet they must confront the fact that drunkeness is bad despite the fact they were born that way.

A Christian with the proper perspective does not hate gays and believes all discrimiation against them is bad. And yet we must be truthful in saying that it is a disorder, and the act is unatural. (And from a religious point of view the act is also extremely sinful)

People do not like being confronted by uncomfortable truths, but it is much better than letting poeople self-destruct

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Re: Addressing the Gay Issue
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2011, 05:27:00 PM »
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Our view on the Gay community is the one that libs have dumped on us and the gays chose to believe it.

They have chosen to believe it because they are libs themselves and their friends and leaders would never lie to them.

The real problem is no mater how conservatives act, or react as the case may be, the label sticks.

 Let it stick,it means as much to ma as being called a racist,nothing! It's just another label to try and shut me up,and good luck with that!
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Re: Addressing the Gay Issue
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2011, 09:10:12 PM »
Isn't that why Limbaugh regularly intones, "Racist, Bigot, Homophobe" almost as an incantation to rob it of any power?  ::thumbsup::

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Re: Addressing the Gay Issue
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2011, 06:34:22 AM »
Yup, desensitizing can work for or against something.

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Re: Addressing the Gay Issue
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2011, 11:33:05 AM »
Some people are born kleptomanics: They like to steal. I would never hate them or treat them badly, and yet they must confront the fact that stealing is wrong despite the fact they were born that way.

Some people are born alcoholics: They like to get drunk. I would never hate them or treat them badly, and yet they must confront the fact that drunkeness is bad despite the fact they were born that way.

A Christian with the proper perspective does not hate gays and believes all discrimiation against them is bad. And yet we must be truthful in saying that it is a disorder, and the act is unatural. (And from a religious point of view the act is also extremely sinful)

People do not like being confronted by uncomfortable truths, but it is much better than letting poeople self-destruct

This is exactly right. I get in some pretty heated discussions with my folks, who fancy themselves fiscally conservative and socially liberal. They like to pull out the "made that way" argument too. But then I say, "Well, Dad and I were made to spread our seed to as many women as possible. Should we indulge that impulse, or reign it in? "That's different" is about the only retort, and they know it rings hollow, but still cling to their beliefs.
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Re: Addressing the Gay Issue
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2011, 03:48:14 PM »
Some people are born kleptomanics: They like to steal. I would never hate them or treat them badly, and yet they must confront the fact that stealing is wrong despite the fact they were born that way.

Some people are born alcoholics: They like to get drunk. I would never hate them or treat them badly, and yet they must confront the fact that drunkeness is bad despite the fact they were born that way.

A Christian with the proper perspective does not hate gays and believes all discrimiation against them is bad. And yet we must be truthful in saying that it is a disorder, and the act is unatural. (And from a religious point of view the act is also extremely sinful)

People do not like being confronted by uncomfortable truths, but it is much better than letting poeople self-destruct

This is exactly right. I get in some pretty heated discussions with my folks, who fancy themselves fiscally conservative and socially liberal. They like to pull out the "made that way" argument too. But then I say, "Well, Dad and I were made to spread our seed to as many women as possible. Should we indulge that impulse, or reign it in? "That's different" is about the only retort, and they know it rings hollow, but still cling to their beliefs.



Mention to them that the APA (American Psychological Association) always considered it to be a disorder until recently. Now its the "non-disorder formerly known as disorder". It was a disorder in the DSM I and II. But does the fact that it is not listed as a disorder in the DSM IV t mean that it is not a disorder? Of course not. The APA can be wrong. The current APA thinks that they were "wrong back then," and "right now." But certainly, the opposite may be true, that is was right back then and wrong now.

Personally, I think that they were right before and wrong now because they now fear liberal retaliation and politcial correctness that did not exist before.

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Re: Addressing the Gay Issue
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2012, 09:12:07 PM »

Catholic Answers' Special Report: Gay Marriage:
http://www.catholic.com/documents/gay-marriage