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Newt making The Establishment nervous?
« on: December 08, 2011, 08:38:53 AM »
http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20111208/US.Gingrich.Unnerved.GOP/?cid=hero_media


I think a better headline would be Newt making the " Establishment Rebublicans nervous he will shut off the money flow".......The rinos are running. I appreciate the fact Newt is facing his past challenges and reaching out in the form of frank discussions and meetings.

He has some baggage, but anyone who makes the establishment skin crawl could get my support.......Hell, if anything, newt won't mind shutting down Washington over wild ass spending.

Kudos to Newt.
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Re: Newt making The Establishment nervous?
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2011, 08:58:19 AM »
I think Rush has it nailed in explaining the recent Newt phenomenon.  People are aware of his past positions, his shaky record as a conservative, and so on.  What appeals to them about Newt is that he is not afraid to throw it right back at the media.  People have become so demoralized by a Republican Party, which ostensibly represents us, always shrinking off to the corner with its tail between its legs, afraid to ever call things as they are, and -- most offensive IMO -- bringing out the long knives against those few among us who DO.  People are so sick of all that, that the candidate who exhibits a certain amount of blunt fearlessness is almost automatically going to get traction.
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Re: Newt making The Establishment nervous?
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2011, 09:15:30 AM »
I think Rush has it nailed in explaining the recent Newt phenomenon.  People are aware of his past positions, his shaky record as a conservative, and so on.  What appeals to them about Newt is that he is not afraid to throw it right back at the media.  People have become so demoralized by a Republican Party, which ostensibly represents us, always shrinking off to the corner with its tail between its legs, afraid to ever call things as they are, and -- most offensive IMO -- bringing out the long knives against those few among us who DO.  People are so sick of all that, that the candidate who exhibits a certain amount of blunt fearlessness is almost automatically going to get traction.

I don't disagree. What makes this a little different ( for me, anyway) than people buying an empty slogan ( like hope and change) is Newt may have ties to the establishment, he also has shown no fear to buck it. Newt credibility can flourish ( at least politically) because he has not tucked his tail and ran and has a record to prove it.....We didn't see any of our leaders of today shut down the gov't....Newt did.


My disappointment comes so many times when repubs talk tough, we support the ideal, but we get no result, only capitulation. We feel deserted.

Republicans are like Richie Cunningham....He has never hit anyone, so the threat has no meaning.
Newt is like the Fonz. He has hit someone.
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Re: Newt making The Establishment nervous?
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2011, 09:42:19 AM »
Republicans are like Richie Cunningham....He has never hit anyone, so the threat has no meaning.
Newt is like the Fonz. He has hit someone.


I will hold my nose and vote for Newt even though he's an arrogant prick.  It is precisely because he's proving to be the anti-establishment candidate, who has experience having shut down the government on principle and balancing budgets, and isn't afraid to call Obama exactly what he is: a Saul Alinsky, socialist/marxist radical.  I'm just hoping he's doesn't jump the shark, like the Fonz.

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Re: Newt making The Establishment nervous?
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2011, 10:05:50 AM »
I think Rush has it nailed in explaining the recent Newt phenomenon.  People are aware of his past positions, his shaky record as a conservative, and so on.  What appeals to them about Newt is that he is not afraid to throw it right back at the media.  People have become so demoralized by a Republican Party, which ostensibly represents us, always shrinking off to the corner with its tail between its legs, afraid to ever call things as they are, and -- most offensive IMO -- bringing out the long knives against those few among us who DO.  People are so sick of all that, that the candidate who exhibits a certain amount of blunt fearlessness is almost automatically going to get traction.

Exactly what got Donald Trump his poll numbers; he took it to Duh Wun.
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Re: Newt making The Establishment nervous?
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2011, 11:02:59 AM »
Republicans are like Richie Cunningham....He has never hit anyone, so the threat has no meaning.
Newt is like the Fonz. He has hit someone.


I will hold my nose and vote for Newt even though he's an arrogant prick.  It is precisely because he's proving to be the anti-establishment candidate, who has experience having shut down the government on principle and balancing budgets, and isn't afraid to call Obama exactly what he is: a Saul Alinsky, socialist/marxist radical.  I'm just hoping he's doesn't jump the shark, like the Fonz.


I'm expecting some capitulation from Newt......I just don't think it will be in regards to the budget, spending and taxation......On those issues, we need an arrogent prick.
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Re: Newt making The Establishment nervous?
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2011, 11:42:32 AM »
No government is too big for Newt.

Look at his record and not his rhetoric


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Re: Newt making The Establishment nervous?
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2011, 01:23:51 PM »
No government is too big for Newt.

Look at his record and not his rhetoric




Yes.....But his record in regards to budgets ain't bad.....Even if Clinton took all the credit. If it does come down between Newt or Romney, i'll take Newt.
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Re: Newt making The Establishment nervous?
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2011, 02:11:11 PM »
Newt is the Republican Cass Sunstein.
If you listened to his Beck interview, that would habe been clear.

Somebody explain why Newt is better than Romney, please.

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Re: Newt making The Establishment nervous?
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2011, 02:24:40 PM »
Newt is the Republican Cass Sunstein.
If you listened to his Beck interview, that would habe been clear.

Somebody explain why Newt is better than Romney, please.


People eager for someone to fight back against the Left and articulate the true conservative message effectively through the din of misinformation and GOP ineptitude, has many voters willing to look past Gingrich's obvious transgressions against conservatism. Given the transience with which the GOP electorate has been moving in succession between the "not-Romneys", I have little doubt that voters would eventually sour on Newt too. The question is, will they sour on him before the primary voting begins, or is he - among all the "not-Romneys" - peaking at exactly the right time to defeat Romney?

This field is so weak. That it has come down to Gingrich and Romney is just pathetic. We always knew we needed someone to rise up and beat Romney. Who would have guessed that it could be Gingrich alone who is capable?  ::facepalm:: ::gaah::
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Re: Newt making The Establishment nervous?
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2011, 02:31:27 PM »
I find it astonishing and disgusting that we conservatives find ourselves in this position AGAIN.
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Re: Newt making The Establishment nervous?
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2011, 02:38:41 PM »
We are so desperate to beat Obama that we are willing to find anyone and we can find all kinds of justifications to take anyone.
I don't fault them
But, if we "win" what do we win?

Pyrrhic victory?

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Re: Newt making The Establishment nervous?
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2011, 02:47:05 PM »
We are so desperate to beat Obama that we are willing to find anyone and we can find all kinds of justifications to take anyone.
I don't fault them
But, if we "win" what do we win?

Pyrrhic victory?

Perhaps as Glock suggests, we only win the opportunity to watch it all come crashing down around a Republican president's ears, and opposed to Obama's. Pyrrhic victory indeed, if that's the case.
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Re: Newt making The Establishment nervous?
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2011, 02:51:07 PM »
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There is no one more reviled in Washington than Newt.  If anyone believes he is part of the establishment, he or she is mistaken.  In fact, it would not be a terribly great stretch to say some in the Republican wing of the governing class would prefer to see Obama re-elected than Newt in the Oval Office.  However, the vast majority of this class are now in a panic as the preordained choice, Mitt Romney, is truly threatened by the rabble in flyover country constantly looking for anyone but Romney.  These people have settled, so it seems, on Gingrich.  The increasing volume of commentary of the Beltway insiders and attendant vitriol toward Newt has become a near-hysterical tidal wave rehashing and embellishing Newt's supposed failings and personal "baggage."

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This election is no longer about Republicans vs. Democrats, but about the Governing Class vs. the rest of the country.  The Republican base has been sold down the river every election cycle since 1988.

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Those now safely ensconced within the Beltway are being sent a warning.  It is not the deep emotional desire to choose Newt Gingrich that has changed the landscape of the nominating process in 2012, but what he represents -- a threat to the establishment.

Read the rest: http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/12/newt_and_the_governing_class.html#ixzz1fyj61Ovz

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Re: Newt making The Establishment nervous?
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2011, 04:30:41 PM »
Newt is the Republican Cass Sunstein.
If you listened to his Beck interview, that would habe been clear.

Somebody explain why Newt is better than Romney, please.


People eager for someone to fight back against the Left and articulate the true conservative message effectively through the din of misinformation and GOP ineptitude, has many voters willing to look past Gingrich's obvious transgressions against conservatism. Given the transience with which the GOP electorate has been moving in succession between the "not-Romneys", I have little doubt that voters would eventually sour on Newt too. The question is, will they sour on him before the primary voting begins, or is he - among all the "not-Romneys" - peaking at exactly the right time to defeat Romney?

This field is so weak. That it has come down to Gingrich and Romney is just pathetic. We always knew we needed someone to rise up and beat Romney. Who would have guessed that it could be Gingrich alone who is capable?  ::facepalm:: ::gaah::


I don't believe Perry or Bachmann are necessarily weak leaders. I do believe we have a media who destroyed thier opportunities and distorted thier stances, and that includes the established right.

Since I am an anybody but obama man, Newt is next in line. If he is destroyed by the left and republican establishment, all we have left is Romney, and at that point, i'll stop posting my support....I'll vote for the guy, but I'll see no need to attempt to prop him up. With each candidate, i've focused on their positives...i've done the same with Newt.....I guess with Romney I could comment he has nice hair.

And if some believe rome is gonna burn, I will take no solice if it burns under obama......I will not give him the satisfaction of victory.
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Re: Newt making The Establishment nervous?
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2011, 04:30:50 PM »
I thought Ron Paul was the threat to the establishment

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Re: Newt making The Establishment nervous?
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2011, 05:35:42 PM »
More Headlines to sell a RINO/Progressive. Lord help us. ::praying::
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Re: Newt making The Establishment nervous?
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2011, 05:41:40 PM »
More Headlines to sell a RINO/Progressive. Lord help us. ::praying::


Now we are down to do you want a little r or a big r. Any r is better than obama.
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Re: Newt making The Establishment nervous?
« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2011, 05:45:40 PM »
I will hold my nose and vote for Newt .........

Not I. Feck 'im.

We are so desperate to beat Obama that we are willing to find anyone and we can find all kinds of justifications to take anyone.

I'm voting conservative. Or at least as conservative as I can find. If it's not in the GOP, so be it. I'll vote how I feel I need to and stock up on ammo.
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Re: Newt making The Establishment nervous?
« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2011, 05:50:16 PM »
Good for you AlanS

However, the argument about anyone but Obama will be compelling.
And the he's better than....