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The Payroll Tax Issue is Taking on Cartoonish Proportions
« on: December 21, 2011, 11:52:52 AM »
When the WSJ starts slamming Repub's in the House you know they've lost it.  They've been drifting leftward for years...if they think passing a lousy 2 month stop-gap issue that just kicks the can into the new year so the argument can just resume again and think this bold act somehow makes economic or fiscal sense, then the WSJ is 100% batsh*t effing nuts!  They sound like your typical weak-kneed RINO coward, more affraid of making a political mistake than doing the right thing.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/wsj-slams-gop-for-payroll-tax-fiasco/

Frack the WSJ!

And to top it off, who but a completely gutless mindless slimey guttersnake would beleive for one nanosecond Obama gives a flying fornication about the tax burden of Americans?!?!?!

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/white-house-web-site-targets-house-gop-with-middle-class-tax-increase-countdown-clock/

Welcome to the fricken theater of the completely absurd!

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Re: The Payroll Tax Issue is Taking on Cartoonish Proportions
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2011, 12:55:30 PM »
WHAT MAKES ME BAT$HIT crazy is that it is not a tax break it is de-funding Social Security. ::cussing::
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Re: The Payroll Tax Issue is Taking on Cartoonish Proportions
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2011, 01:46:12 PM »
The WSJ has wavered before toward the President in charge. Pussies.
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Re: The Payroll Tax Issue is Taking on Cartoonish Proportions
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2011, 01:56:53 PM »
WHAT MAKES ME BAT$HIT crazy is that it is not a tax break it is de-funding Social Security. ::cussing::

And reducing the withholding for 2 months has nothing to do with how much you owe during the whole year.

4.2% of $110,000 or 6.2% of $110,000.  The withholding during January and February has nothing do to with the final tab.


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Re: The Payroll Tax Issue is Taking on Cartoonish Proportions
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2011, 01:58:47 PM »
WHAT MAKES ME BAT$HIT crazy is that it is not a tax break it is de-funding Social Security. ::cussing::

Good. The faster that goes bankrupt the faster I can stop paying into it. Social Security was de-funded the second congress got to invest the "surplus" in T-Bills. It was illegitimate and criminal when the first recipient got a check from a system they never contributed one dime to.  .  I have no sympathy at all for a generation who KNOWINGLY invested with the government Bernie Maidoff, and now has the gall to demand their children make up the money they lost on their bad investment.




 

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Re: The Payroll Tax Issue is Taking on Cartoonish Proportions
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2011, 02:02:21 PM »

And reducing the withholding for 2 months has nothing to do with how much you owe during the whole year.

4.2% of $110,000 or 6.2% of $110,000.  The withholding during January and February has nothing do to with the final tab.


Oh yeah did you guys get this from the White House?  The email has a subject "This is not a Game"

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The White House, Washington


   

Hello --

We've been fighting for months to make sure taxes on the middle class don't go up on January 1st.

This weekend, Democrats and Republicans in the Senate came together, compromised, and took a giant step to avoid just that. In fact, 89 senators approved an extension of the payroll tax cut. And 39 of them were Republicans, including GOP Senate Leader Mitch McConnell.

But now, a faction of Republicans in the House refuses to even vote on that compromise. And they're on the brink of allowing taxes to go up on 160 million Americans.

Here's part of the problem: A lot of people in Washington don't understand what these tax cuts mean. A typical family gets about $40 with each paycheck from this tax cut, and opponents look at that and argue it doesn't have an impact.

Just today, one House Republican referred to this debate as "high-stakes poker." He’s right about the high-stakes, but he's dead wrong about the poker. This is not a game.

We know better -- $40 has tangible benefits for millions of families. Can you help us prove that point?

Tell us what your family will give up if your taxes increase. We'll highlight stories like yours publicly so that they're part of the debate here in Washington.

What does $40 mean to you?

What's missing here in Washington is your voice.

Too many just don't understand the perspective of a working family. They need to hear what it's like to be part of the middle class in this country.

Thankfully, there's still time to change the conversation. We have 11 days until taxes go up.

Send us your stories and we'll share them on Facebook and Twitter. We'll display what we received on WhiteHouse.gov. With your help, we'll put the middle class front and center.

Tell us what an extra $40 means to you and your family:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/40dollars

Thanks,

David Plouffe
Senior Advisor to the President

Yeah, the GOP is pushing for a year of extension ( still not enough)  and the Dems are pushing for 2 months? And they imply in this letter its for the year.  Dishonerable, dishonest, integrity lacking toadies who should be executed for lying so shamelessly.

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Re: The Payroll Tax Issue is Taking on Cartoonish Proportions
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2011, 04:26:26 PM »
Tax cut?  Really.  Have less taken out, that was intended for SS, and your total taxable liability goes up, so it's pay them now or pay them later, but pay them you will.  That's for us people who actually pay Income Taxes.

Plus, I heard today the Oppressives want this "tax cut" "paid for" by a fee on mortgages and re-finances.  Is this part of the wonderful compromise deal made by McConnell and 88 other E-GOP?  Because what they've proposed is to reduce the little bit of taxes that the 47% actually does pay in lieu of Federal Income Tax at yet more expense to other people.

And about that word, "compromise"; sick of it.  As sick as I am of hearing "racist", I'm to infinity and beyond sicker of the idea that anytime the Oppressives don't get their way, it's because "the other side doesn't want to compromise".  Compromise is how we got here, not how we're getting out of this mess, but I will say, the Democrats would have gotten exactly the "tax cut" they wanted if THEY were willing to compromise on the House bill, which included the pipeline legislation.  Instead, Harry Reid refused to consider it and flounced off.

So, the WSJ believes the House shot Republicans in the foot because the Great and Powerful Wizard Obama will be seen as a tax-cutter, thwarted yet again by the Stupid Evil Party Of No.  Great, but no loss, folks.  The WSJ lost me during the runup to that POS Amnesty bill, when it joined the "racist/nationalist" criers.  And I am talking to you, Stephen Moore of the Club For Growth.

Feh, meh, sneh and ARRRGGGHH!  I'm with Weisshaupt; faster please.

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Re: The Payroll Tax Issue is Taking on Cartoonish Proportions
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2011, 02:21:20 AM »
I have a feeling that Reid and Stymie went the 60 day route because of Keystone XL , knowing the House would never go for it . In other words it was a set-up . The fact that the tax break steals from Social Security isn't important to them . Neither is the fact that the $$ involved for the average family means nothing more than a large pizza and a couple of cokes every Saturday night . What is important though is the fact that the Republicans have allowed the Dems and Stymie to take and hold the initiative and missrepresent and demogogue the hell out of it . Mitch McConnell didn't coordinate from his end and left Boehner and the House Republicans at odds and holding the bag . The whole damned thing has been an utterly disgraceful exercise .

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Re: The Payroll Tax Issue is Taking on Cartoonish Proportions
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2011, 10:03:26 AM »
 The $40 Dollar Campaign  is kicking off. The White House now has a twitter feed where people can post their sob stories at #40dollars.

As with previous media attempts,  the WH doesn't seem to realize  that people posting sob stories over $40 in the middle of pages and pages of snake just make them look like the dork who refuses to make fun of teacher when the teachers is out of the room.  or as one tweet said:

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When you try to use a tax increase to spread class warfare, the amount needs to be more than #40dollars. These people come off as whiny.

Just a Sample below from the feed -- they are flooded with people like us.  You can't use Twitter to push a false Meme.  If $40 is important, and Obama's policies have cost everyone WAY more than that ( even the poor)  then its best to keep you mouth shut - especially when you are talking about 2 months.  But Dems are too stupid to know that.  Look at their holiday advice ( The Kansas Speech? Really? The one where he thought he was in Texas and went on a Anti-Capitalist, pro marxist rant? The one where its obvious he is a unprincipled lying A-hole? Yeah, use that. That will work)

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That #40dollars a paycheck = just enough to cover rising gas costs thanks to #Obama failed energy policy. #Perspective #tcot #p2 #GOP

I put roughly #40dollars a paycheck into my kid's education fund. Good thing, because the payroll holiday is just stealing from her future

#40dollars now means less Social Security later. You are stealing it from my future SS, so I have to save it so I have retirement funds.

Obama hopes that #40dollars can buy the votes of millions of useful idiots. Is he right?

@whitehouse #40dollars could buy several raised seal birth certificate copies.

#40dollars is what it will cost middle class & poor 4 their daily electricity usage due to Obama EPA regulations forcing HIGHER costs

@whitehouse #40dollars would be more than enough to pay for a voter ID card.

You can save #40dollars a week on gas if you just inflate your tires properly. #obamaisanidiot

RT @johnolore Overnight shipping on my white truffles. #40dollars

#40dollars will buy the undying loyalty of stupid people.

I'd like to have #40dollars for a year. Why do dems only want to give me my hard earned money for 2 months?

#40dollars means very little because it pales in comparison to everything else the government is taking from us or costing us in the future.

@donnabrazile My share of the US debt is $48,407.00 ... can we address this sometime instead of worrying about #40dollars? What do u think?

#40dollars appears to be the latest "can you be brainwashed question", also is about one trillionth the damage obama is exacting on the USA

Obamacare has increased my health insurance premium $40 per month and it costs over $40 to fill up the car #40dollars

The #40dollars I'll keep will be used to pay higher utility bills under EPA's new MACT rule.

#40dollars is not nearly enough to distract us from really important bills like #SOPA.

RT @BadgerNative #40dollars used to be worth something, then 0bama & Co. printed a few extra trillion #tcot

@Whitehouse #40dollars wants to no Y letting Bush tax cut expire is not a tax increase, but letting payroll tax expire is. Difference?

RT @meredith_turney: For #40dollars I can donate to the GOP candidate who will make Obama a one term president.

#40dollars that #Obama will give to uncle Onyango and aunt Zetuni.

#40dollars is not worth my freedom and it doesn't pay for the difference in gas prices under your watch #Obama

If you're spending #40dollars for pizza you need to eat less pizza and stop having them gold plated,

I lost $24,000 in the #Cash4Clunkers debacle - how do I get that back instead of this #40dollars? #tcpt #p2 #teaparty #GOP

My vacation plans for next year hang in the balance! #40dollars

Better yet make the payroll tax cut PERMANENT! 2 months is nothing!#40dollars

@whitehouse With your $40 tax cut I'll be able to watch you hasten the inevitable of the end of Social Security. #40dollars

#40Dollars would mean my husband and I had jobs, which would mean there'd be presents under the tree!

ATTN all fools falling for @whitehouse trap-Did you know to get #40dollars a week, you'd have to earn over 100K/year?

Permanent mortgage fee on the middle class to pay for Obama's temporary 2 month #40Dollars

RT @maryincolorado1: #40dollars Sounds like "a chicken in every pot" campaign by Hoover in 1928. Promise rubes everything & destroy economy

#4MillVacay buys a Union Boss for a year #40Dollars is the mandatory union theft (aka dues) #TCOT

$535 million dollars squandered away in #Solyndra - what does that break down in terms of #40dollars ? #tcot #p2 #tlot #TeaParty #GOP
(According to the Adaptive Curmudegeon, $8 a person, thanks for asking.

Then there are those who know what the money will really be spent on:

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If every single one of my followers gives me #40dollars ~~ I will blow you all rt

RT @NihilarianZH 2 lap dances #40dollars

#40dollars means 4 drinks at the bar with a tiny tip for the bartender.

#40dollars buys you two months membership to bangbros! bangbrosnetwork.com/t1/pps=x7twitt… Enjoy & Merry XXXMAS & Happy Hanukkah! ;) pic.twitter.com/M9sFn8Tv

Don't follow the link... I thinks its hysterical that porn sites are using this as advertizing.


Of course there are genuine sob stories: like this one:

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#40dollars allows me to buy food for #OWS in my area who are fighting for me & my kids. #connecttheleft #p2
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Re: The Payroll Tax Issue is Taking on Cartoonish Proportions
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2011, 10:15:09 AM »
That's some funny chit. ::hysterical:: Proof yet again the best comedy is based in truth.
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Re: The Payroll Tax Issue is Taking on Cartoonish Proportions
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2011, 11:09:20 AM »
I have a feeling that Reid and Stymie went the 60 day route because of Keystone XL , knowing the House would never go for it . In other words it was a set-up . The fact that the tax break steals from Social Security isn't important to them . Neither is the fact that the $$ involved for the average family means nothing more than a large pizza and a couple of cokes every Saturday night . What is important though is the fact that the Republicans have allowed the Dems and Stymie to take and hold the initiative and missrepresent and demogogue the hell out of it . Mitch McConnell didn't coordinate from his end and left Boehner and the House Republicans at odds and holding the bag . The whole damned thing has been an utterly disgraceful exercise .

Ding! Ding! Ding!  We have a winner!

This 60 day BS was all designed by Dingy, Nasty & Barry to get the GOP to back off their Keystone language, they were going to force that out in order to keep the stupid SS payroll tax extension through the rest of the year or paint the GOP as siding with big business at the expense of the environment and middle class (as they are doing now)!  The GOP gains NOTHING by agreeing to a phony 60 day extension!  And we have documented the utter folly of the payroll tax cut here and what it really means.  The Senate Repub's better STFU and get on board with the House or they can all FOAD!
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Re: The Payroll Tax Issue is Taking on Cartoonish Proportions
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2011, 11:13:16 AM »
Weisshaupt's fault for making me nose squirt coffee on my screen!

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#40dollars the cost of a man-bra for Barney Frank

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Re: The Payroll Tax Issue is Taking on Cartoonish Proportions
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2011, 11:30:19 AM »
Tweeters really dig Barney!

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#40dollars covers Barney Frank's weekly lubrication needs.
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Re: The Payroll Tax Issue is Taking on Cartoonish Proportions
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2011, 01:19:31 PM »
And the hits keep coming

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I could pay the co-pays for at least two abortions for mah bitches! #40dollars

#40dollars means the difference between whether I get my medication or not. So does the POTUS' war on mmj dispensaries.

RT @BoogyManWF: #40dollars is what @BarackObama lights his cigarettes with. via FranRev5v13

#40dollars The amount inflation had taken out of your pay as a result of the Obama/Bernanke monetary policies.

We've become so dependent on govt that people think govt letting you keep #40dollars of your money is good policy #TaxReform now!

#40Dollars ain't nothing EBT pays over $125/month

Obama & Dems deal = 4 X #40dollars + extra $17 fee on your mortgage || GOP deal = 26 x #40dollars + job creating Pipeline

Obama's budget deficit for this year alone is adding >$65 every week to every American's share of federal debt. #40dollars Do the math.

Stop the #40dollars sideshow! A law that can indefinitely detain anyone b/c America is now a "battlefield" is more important!

@WaysMeansCmte You're blocking a whole year. GOP isn't blocking #40dollars. Don't lie.

RT @paul_gillan: How working poor R deceived: if #40dollars is 10% of your paycheck, payroll tax cut difference 2 you is only $8.

#40dollars a week is close to half my budget for whiskey to help me cope with how f**ked up this country is. @BarackObama

I want my #40dollars to go to national defense. Oh wait, I have no paycheck thanks to this administration's poor handling of the economy.

#40dollars can't bring back those killed by the corrupt #holders #fastandfurious scheme!

#40dollars in UK pounds is about £25 quid for which I can do BUGGER ALL!!! not even a 30 minute back massage lol!

@whitehouse @twitter @facebook #40dollars would be enough to pay for a data plan w/ unlimited texts so I can keep tweeting about #40dollars.

Ask the 14 million UNEMPLOYED who don't even HAVE a paycheck what OBAMANOMICS has done for them. #40dollars #tcot #hhrs

#40dollars doesn't matter what I do with that money, it is MY money, stop shoving your hand into MY pocket trying to take what is not YOURS!

MT @WilliamAllison:Folks Obama references could lose #40dollars due 2 increased compliance costs b/c of 2month bill


And the Liberal Sheep  seem to be trying to defend.. a lot more posts about school lunches, gas money, college books, medical bills etc..  while ignoring that this is an argument over 2 vs. 12 months, and the XL pipeline jobs to boot.

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Congress inaction on payroll tax cut & #UIextensions has major impact at home with 3 unemployed cousins & parents who need those #40dollars.

@whitehouse I'm still unemployeed after 2 years so, #40dollars will really be a budget buster we can't afford.

#40dollars My 26 weeks unemployment ends on Jan 11. No extension. Will be homeless on Feb 1. 57-yr-old can't get work. Need extension!

Because, you know, you get that $40 when you aren't working.

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Do these #40dollars morons realize they need an actual job to have the priv of paying $40less in taxes each week? #entitledliberals


And that only if you earn over $100K

 I guess if you never have a job, then you never learn what the word "payroll" means.  I am getting depressed reading how many really  stupid people there are. With all of the contrary tweets there, they just keep going on about how much $40 willbuy them in the Months of January and February-- apparently they can't think far enough ahead to worry about March  or later.

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Still waiting for mid/lower class republicans to step up and say they're ready to give up $40 out every check! #40dollars

it's TIME 4 us AMERICANS 2 over throw these DUMB ASS Tea Parties in the House who want nothing more then 2 END our LIVES ASAP!!!

#GOP- #40dollars is the difference between votes for you and votes for @TheDemocrats

@whitehouse #40dollars goes towards the doctor bills I owe from uninsured care I received in 2009 #ExtendthePayrollTaxHoliday

I don't understand why Republicans are blocking a tax cut...isn't that what they want? Or only cuts for the top 1%? #40dollars

@SpeakerBoehner hey asshole #40dollars could buy me school supplies that financial aid wont cover!! #dontbeadick

@reynaldomacias @whitehouse #40dollars is a lot to lose per check for the average person!

@BarackObama #40dollars helps pay for the medical marijuana that allows me to live a healthy life.

Lmao! RT @jdmau: with #40dollars each my roommates and I could have a killer kegger for NYE @BarackObama

Que significan $40 para ti? Para mi familia era comida en la mesa o dinero para mi almuerzo escolar por 2 semanas #40dollars

#40dollars is my weekly marijuana allotment. If you take $40 more out of my weekly check how am I supposed to buy my anxiety medication?

#40dollars cut the crap Washington road blockers, get off the left lane, approve it and move on.

Obama pushes tax cut deal: Have we become so partisan that even when we agree we can't get things done? #40dollars

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#40dollars is what I worked so hard for last night

This #40dollars campaign has worked well. Allows Obama to tell stories from real ppl & appeal to emotion more easily than abstract tax cut

Some of these #40dollars stories are so touching


Are those serious or people making fun of Libs? Its so damn hard to tell.








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Re: The Payroll Tax Issue is Taking on Cartoonish Proportions
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2011, 01:24:46 PM »
That there is part of the problem.
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Re: The Payroll Tax Issue is Taking on Cartoonish Proportions
« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2011, 02:27:44 PM »
Speaking of problems...

Wonder how much it cost taxpayers to fly the first fleabag back from Hawaii?

http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2011/12/22/bo-shipped-hawaii-obamas-photo-op/

Hope he bit Barry in groin!

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Re: The Payroll Tax Issue is Taking on Cartoonish Proportions
« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2011, 03:33:22 PM »
Crap!  Looks like Mytch and the rest of the noodle-spined Senate slugs are getting to Boehner!!

http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/22/politics/congress-payroll-tax-cut/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

This better be CNN blowing smoke or I'm gonna slap somebody!!!

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Re: The Payroll Tax Issue is Taking on Cartoonish Proportions
« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2011, 03:50:19 PM »
Boehner needs to come out at a press conference and say that "the House Republicans made a valiant effort to back the President's bi-partisan plan to extend the tax holiday a full year."  Apparently, since Barry is abandoning the 12 month plan, "the House will do so as well to show that it can act in a truly bipartisan manner."
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Re: The Payroll Tax Issue is Taking on Cartoonish Proportions
« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2011, 05:33:52 PM »
I can't understand why this isn't completely revoked.

Well; I guess I can.  If you have to keep re-approving the 'tax cut' monthly... weekly.. hourly.. you can keep blackmailing people with it.

Repeal the entire damn thing... Jeesh!

Flat-tax !!