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Which candidate's nomination would do the most damage to the ruling-class GOP establishement's grip on the conservative movement?

Mitt Romney
0 (0%)
Newt Gingrich
0 (0%)
Rick Perry
2 (18.2%)
Rick Santorum
1 (9.1%)
Jon Huntsman
0 (0%)
Ron Paul
8 (72.7%)

Total Members Voted: 10

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charlesoakwood

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Re: Which nominee would do the most damage to the GOP establishement?
« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2012, 03:47:03 PM »

Two things everybody agrees upon,
                                                    (1) the GOP establishment needs to be deconstructed and
                                                    (2) Ron Paul is the most likely candidate to damage the GOP
                                                          establishment.



I don't know about everybody, but that's where I'm finding myself, thanks to the GOP establishment and Mitt Romney. I feel like my choice has been taken away. I would have supported Palin, or Bachmann, or Paul Ryan, or perhaps some other adequately conservative person not declared. But they destroyed the ones they found unsuitable, and convinced others like Ryan not to run. Now I'm left with having the unprincipled liberal Romney shoved down my throat while Gingrich, Santorum, and Perry divide the conservative vote, or throwing my support behind the guy who's so damned conservative he turns conservatism inside out and upside down to prove it.

I am dreadfully unhappy with this situation. At just the moment in American history when the nation needed a conservative to lead us away from National Socialism, the GOP has failed the country. I am not surprised, but after 2010, I had hope. Now my hope is in destroying the GOP establishment from the inside, and praying that it's not too late for my children and grandchildren to live in the free nation I was blessed with.


At the beginning of this season I looked forward to a heady contest between
Bachmann, Cain and Perry, then, as Pandora said, "they started talking".
At this point, in this thread, I'm enthusiastic about Paul running through
the Party with a monkey wrench. 

We, the Tea Party, and public opinion polls have told congress they are not
representing us.  They've told us they intend to do as they please.  The only
two candidates who have consistently proved they will do as they say are Perry
and Paul.  I don't think Perry is going to pull out of his dive ::sad:: so I will enjoy
the thought of Ron (the Tasmanian Devil) Paul wreaking havoc on the statist GOP.


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Re: Which nominee would do the most damage to the GOP establishement?
« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2012, 10:51:49 AM »
Just remember to cover your bets!
We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.

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Re: Which nominee would do the most damage to the GOP establishement?
« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2012, 11:11:27 AM »

Yeah, dangerous thoughts but...
                                                   Mytch McConnell   ::asskicking::
                                                                   John Boehner        ::asskicking::
                                                                       all the other hijacking SOBs    ::asskicking::

                                                    seeking short relief from bastards in the (R) Party facilitating
                                                    destruction of our Republic is so attractive.





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Re: Which nominee would do the most damage to the GOP establishement?
« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2012, 11:24:05 AM »
Let's put it this way, we cannot begin to restore this Republic until the GOP is dealt with. By dealt with, I mean something that neuters its current gaggle of apparatchiks at the top. Personally I would like to see the party consigned to the ash heap of history, because the effort to take it over from within or "push" it in a conservative direction has failed. They are at this point just openly defying the very people who gave them their historic congressional victory in 2010.

It's a pity that we as conservatives have waited until the stakes are so high before doing something about our milquetoast "representatives". For a long time now they've calculated that they can perennially put up these lame "moderates" and we will toe the party line, voting for them merely on the basis that they're marginally better than Democrats. The trouble is, they have calculated correctly, because that's exactly what we've been doing ever since Bush Sr. in 1988.

The punditry within GOP circles is convinced that it is conventional wisdom that anything other than a moderate will alienate independents and send them running into the waiting arms of the Marxists. It is beyond time that they learn a new conventional wisdom, that anything other than a true conservative will guarantee electoral defeat. These pricks learned nothing from their banishment to the political wilderness. I'm quite willing to see Obama back in the White House if it would help break the back of this decrepit party. At this point it's just so much rearranging of the Titanic's deck chairs anyway.
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Re: Which nominee would do the most damage to the GOP establishement?
« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2012, 11:41:38 AM »
Yup, in a year where a strong conservative was desperately needed to sweep in new blood and reverse the course we are on 180 degrees, we get Dwarfs, and we are still stuck with too much of the Ruling Class morons in congress.  I agree we need to clean house.  It's just that it should have been done a long long time ago.  Once the Ruling Class began openly torpedoing Tea Party candidates in favor of protecting their Ruling Class puppets, all illusions as to what element is in control of the GOP should have evaporated.  But here we are, still stuck in neutral or drifting in reverse...

Now we have John "the phony conservative" Huntsman endorsing the "one man" who can "defeat Obama"...and lecturing US about our tone!  As if servile obedience to leftist definitions of tone and civility are to be adhered to, while our enemies us every art of deceit and fraud against US with impunity!

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/huntsman-takes-shot-at-toxic-gop-race-while-dropping-out/

If people continue to act like sheep, they'll be treated like sheep, and our demise is assured.

I see no desire on the part of sheep to change, so I am naturally skeptical we can stop the ship from sinking.
We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.

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Re: Which nominee would do the most damage to the GOP establishement?
« Reply #25 on: January 16, 2012, 11:53:38 AM »
If people continue to act like sheep, they'll be treated like sheep, and our demise is assured.

I see no desire on the part of sheep to change, so I am naturally skeptical we can stop the ship from sinking.

As I've said before, stock up on ammo.
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Re: Which nominee would do the most damage to the GOP establishement?
« Reply #26 on: January 16, 2012, 11:58:34 AM »
Screw these people and their tone lectures! 

How about aiming that charge at the Debbie-Washerwoman-Schtzes of the other party?  No?  I didn't think so, because the Left considers themselves absolved of the "fault" of extremist rhetoric due to their moral high ground; no point in hectoring the tone-deaf.

Go away and stay away, Huntsman, and take your talk-nice bullspit with you.
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