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Another fail for Team GOP
« on: December 17, 2011, 12:20:29 PM »
The deal will also require the Obama administration to decide within 60 days on whether or not it will approve construction of the Keystone oil pipeline.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/source-congress-approve-keystone-pipeline-provision-budget-deal_613448.html

WTF?!  Why give that anti-capitalist POS the option?!?!?!

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Re: Another fail for Team GOP
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2011, 12:52:30 PM »
Yea...I saw this.....reported as if the republicans got something in return. We also need new leadership in congress. ::cussing::
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Re: Another fail for Team GOP
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2011, 09:02:01 PM »
Man it is really pissing me off that now we have to watch both hands on our(?) side as well as OboMao and Co.
They say one thing and do another crap is getting old.  ::cussing::  ::outrage::
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Re: Another fail for Team GOP
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2011, 12:07:49 AM »
This is the GOP attempt at being Machiavellian or something.

Here is what I believe they are thinking...

It is clear that, left to his own devices, O'Bama was going to do absolutely nothing about the Keystone situation until after the election. If he loses the election then it is someone else's problem. If he wins the election then he will sign the deal. The Dingus strategy is to 1) not anger his environutcase base by signing it before the election and 2) keep both sides of the issue donating campaign money to him in the meantime with the hope of influencing his position.

By putting a time limit on the decision the GOP hopes to throw a wrench into that strategy. If they simply force the deal through (if they even could) then the Dingus could rightfully claim that his hand was forced and maybe his base would be somewhat sympathetic and not desert him. This way the onus is on the Dingus to not vote present on the issue and ruin his strategy. He will piss off someone and see his opportunity for campaign cash on this issue lessened. Maybe lessened a lot.

If he approves Keystone the GOP has a victory, O'Bama loses some of his base and all of that campaign money disappears. After all, the enviros won't give anymore if they don't get their way and the Keystone backers won't give anymore if they win.

If he disapproves Keystone the GOP gets to use it as a club to beat him with and O'Bama loses the campaign cash from the Keystone backers. In fact, any Keystone money that was slated for the Dingus would then automatically shift to the GOP.

Meanwhile the GOP has a 50/50 chance of getting the deal through compared with a 0% chance if they allow President Zero to work his plan.

I don't know if this was their thinking or not but it's the only thing that makes sense to me. I also don't know if it is a good plan or not. Time will tell.

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Re: Another fail for Team GOP
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2011, 12:13:49 AM »
I think:  that is their thinking.  I think:  it's a good plan.  Better than wringing their hands and doing nothing.

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Re: Another fail for Team GOP
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2011, 12:17:34 AM »
It's always a good idea to force the hapless and ever shifting Stymie into a decision . In this case which ever way he goes , he's going to piss off a part of his base ... either enviros or unions .

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Re: Another fail for Team GOP
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2011, 12:26:11 AM »
Yeah, I didn't mention the unions but they would be one of the pro-Keystone campaign cash donators in my scenario.

The whole "voting present" thing is President Downgrade's version of triangulation. But...if the GOP can pull this off to where he has to go one way or the other then suddenly the boy genius looks too clever by half.

He really is a one trick pony with voting present. He's like a dog returning to his vomit. He'll keep doing it because, hey, it's always worked before.
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Re: Another fail for Team GOP
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2011, 04:49:44 AM »
Supposedly at the last minute Stymie has "delegated" the Keystone decision to the State Dept . which is insisting on further environmental studies . I may be mistaken but I'd like to know when the hell the State Dept. began making decisions on domestic issues which would fall under the pervue of Interior and EPA ( as if they aren't bad enough already ) . This is one more delaying tactic and the reddest of red herrings cooked up by Stymie and it stinks to High Heaven ! The decision has been made by congress and even an executive order can't over ride that ! The bill as passed requires him to make a decision . He must either sign the bill as written or veto it and risk an over ride . This bull$hit has to stop !

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Re: Another fail for Team GOP
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2011, 10:14:50 AM »

His bottom line is transferring power away from the elected
to the appointed.  Again the hapless Republicans, who thought
they had maneuvered him into making a fateful decision, were
Stymied by their cowardice.

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Re: Another fail for Team GOP
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2011, 11:12:08 AM »
Double-Stymied!!

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Re: Another fail for Team GOP
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2011, 12:44:32 PM »

His bottom line is transferring power away from the elected
to the appointed.  Again the hapless Republicans RINOs, who thought
they had maneuvered him into making a fateful decision, were
Stymied by their cowardice.

FIFY. I'm REALLY getting tired of dealing with these bastards.
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Re: Another fail for Team GOP
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2011, 12:46:47 PM »

If we were doing the dealing the country would be in better shape.

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Re: Another fail for Team GOP
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2011, 12:49:32 PM »

His bottom line is transferring power away from the elected
to the appointed.  Again the hapless Republicans RINOs, who thought
they had maneuvered him into making a fateful decision, were
Stymied by their cowardice.

FIFY. I'm REALLY getting tired of dealing with these bastards.

That right there is the crux of the problem; we're not only not dealing with them, we're barely -- if at all -- considered in their deal-making with the other side; not only do we not hold a hand, we're not even at the table.

What we ARE doing is dealing with the consequences of their bullsht.
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Re: Another fail for Team GOP
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2011, 12:58:25 AM »
Stymie and Congress have also made such a political football out of the payroll tax cut that any pretense of reality has been thrown out the window . What the average American family gets in exchange for shorting the Social Security Trust Fund is equivalent to a large pizza and a few cokes every Saturday night .

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Re: Another fail for Team GOP
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2011, 07:10:39 AM »
Yup, Kabuki theater courtesy of democrats, vintage material...it's been in their playbook for over half a decade...and the RINO's & Establishment Repub's gobble it up everytime!

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Re: Another fail for Team GOP
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2011, 11:16:46 AM »
...it's been in their playbook for over half a decade...

What amazes me is the idiots of this country haven't caught on yet. They spew the same chit over and over, and the people just suck it up like a sponge. Even when it's proven wrong. ::doublebird::
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Re: Another fail for Team GOP
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2011, 11:34:16 AM »
...it's been in their playbook for over half a decade...

What amazes me is the idiots of this country haven't caught on yet. They spew the same chit over and over, and the people just suck it up like a sponge. Even when it's proven wrong. ::doublebird::

Dumb down people long enough and ignorance, stupidity and laziness become key genetic traits...that's an even older SOP for leftists...

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Re: Another fail for Team GOP
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2012, 07:39:19 AM »
Not unexpected, but it still sucks!

Canadian Prime Minister meeting with China about selling their oil
http://hotair.com/archives/2012/01/15/super-canadian-prime-minister-meeting-with-china-about-selling-their-oil/

Thanks to the SCoaMF and cowards in the GOP too frightened of their own shadows the Canadian's have no choice but to open a dialogue with the Chi-Com's!

The Ruling Class bends us over again, and we're supposed to just reward them with blind obedience!

 ::cussing::  them!

Can't wait to see how the Dwarfs respond to this...

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