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The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms.... & Sugar?
« on: February 01, 2012, 08:04:56 PM »
So will they regulate reaching across the white picket fence with a measuring cup?

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Bitter? Calif. Researchers Now Want Sugar Controlled Like Alcohol and Tobacco

Should sugar be controlled like alcohol and tobacco? That’s what a group of researchers from the University of California San Francisco (UCSF) seem to think.

Drs. Robert Lustig, Laura Schmidt, and Claire Brindis argue that sugar’s potential for “abuse,” coupled with its “toxicity and pervasiveness in the Western diet,” make it a primary culprit in a worldwide health crisis, according to the UCSF website.

“We are in the midst of the biggest public health crisis in the history of the world,” Dr. Lustig said. “And nobody even gets it. Nobody understands how important this is because they don’t consider it ‘public health.‘ They consider it ’personal responsibility.’”

They argue that the health hazards associated with sugar consumption are similar to those of alcohol — which they note is made from distilling sugar.

Is it time yet?
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Re: The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms.... & Sugar?
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2012, 08:07:17 PM »
What to put them in a box and drop it into the Marianas trench? Yes.
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Re: The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms.... & Sugar?
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2012, 08:10:47 PM »
Just watch and listen to these sanctimonious bastards casually talk about engineering society through policy that strips people of their liberty.

The Toxic Truth About Sugar with Robert Lustig, MD

Here's a partial transcript of some of the better totalitarian statements....

“We are in the midst of the biggest public health crisis in the history of the world, and nobody even gets it. Nobody understands how important this is because they don’t consider it ‘public health.‘ They consider it ’personal responsibility.’”

"Most people think, (sarcastically) 'Oh, well, you're gonna control sugar, well that means... is that like alcohol, you have to prohibit it? Isn't that the government meddling in people's choice?' No - that's not what works, and that's not what people want. What works is gentle, moderate ways of shaping the availability of a substance so that everywhere you go, it isn't the only choice."

"No one's really talking about how much tax will it take to reduce consumption. We saw this with cigarettes. We basically had to raise the price of a pack up to eleven dollars in New York City to get people to actually stop smoking. They finally decided, 'Ya know what? The craving just isn't worth it.' So the question is, how much taxation would you have to do to a can of soda to get somebody to say, 'ya know, I don't have to do that.' You're gonna have to double it. No one's ready for that today, but ya know what? They weren't ready for an eleven dollar pack of cigarettes either."

"The fact of the matter is, we're talking about saving billions of dollars.... 147 billion dollars is on the table right now. And the question is, are you gonna let [soda manufacturers] make the money, while you end up paying in, or, are we all gonna save?"
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"A strict observance of the written laws is doubtless one of the high duties of a good citizen, but it is not the highest. The laws of necessity, of self-preservation, of saving our country when in danger, are of higher obligation. To lose our country by a scrupulous adherence to written law, would be to lose the law itself, with life, liberty, property and all those who are enjoying them with us; thus absurdly sacrificing the end to the means."

- Thomas Jefferson

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Re: The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms.... & Sugar?
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2012, 09:37:51 PM »
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, Sugar, and Sodomy

"We are in the midst of the biggest public health crisis in the history of the world, and nobody even gets it. Nobody understands how important this is because they don’t consider it ‘public health.‘ They consider it ’personal responsibility.’  The question is what has happened to change this so completely.  Everybody says AIDS is: you practice anal sex with numerous partners, you don’t use condoms, it’s your fault. I take care of 6 month olds with HIV, it ain’t their fault.  Homosexuality has very specific effects that drive these phenomena, that drive immune deficiency, that drive death due to AIDS.  It’s for this reason that we took on the question of is homosexuality underlying this pandemic of chronic auto-immune deficiency disease."

"Most people think, (sarcastically) 'Oh, well, you're gonna control sodomy, well that means... is that like sex, you have to prohibit it? Isn't that the government meddling in people's choice?' No - that's not what works, and that's not what people want. What works is gentle, moderate ways of shaping the sexual orientation so that everywhere you go, it isn't the homosexual choice."

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Re: The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms.... & Sugar?
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2012, 09:39:05 PM »
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, Sugar, and Sodomy

"We are in the midst of the biggest public health crisis in the history of the world, and nobody even gets it. Nobody understands how important this is because they don’t consider it ‘public health.‘ They consider it ’personal responsibility.’  The question is what has happened to change this so completely.  Everybody says AIDS is: you practice anal sex with numerous partners, you don’t use condoms, it’s your fault. I take care of 6 month olds with HIV, it ain’t their fault.  Homosexuality has very specific effects that drive these phenomena, that drive immune deficiency, that drive death due to AIDS.  It’s for this reason that we took on the question of is homosexuality underlying this pandemic of chronic auto-immune deficiency disease."

"Most people think, (sarcastically) 'Oh, well, you're gonna control sodomy, well that means... is that like sex, you have to prohibit it? Isn't that the government meddling in people's choice?' No - that's not what works, and that's not what people want. What works is gentle, moderate ways of shaping the sexual orientation so that everywhere you go, it isn't the homosexual choice."


Put THAT in yer pipe n' smoke it, libbies!
"A strict observance of the written laws is doubtless one of the high duties of a good citizen, but it is not the highest. The laws of necessity, of self-preservation, of saving our country when in danger, are of higher obligation. To lose our country by a scrupulous adherence to written law, would be to lose the law itself, with life, liberty, property and all those who are enjoying them with us; thus absurdly sacrificing the end to the means."

- Thomas Jefferson

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Re: The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms.... & Sugar?
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2012, 07:26:19 AM »
What to put them in a box and drop it into the Marianas trench? Yes.

Hey, I've done that!  Well, not with people...stuff...but it is easy peasy lemon squeezy!

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Toxic Sugar: Should We Regulate It Like Alcohol?
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2012, 01:41:07 PM »
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/02/sugar-toxic-regulation_n_1248397.html

Teaser:
"Should sugar be regulated like alcohol? That's the premise of a new position paper, published today in the journal Nature by three leading obesity researchers from the University of California, San Francisco School of Medicine.

They argue that added sugar in all forms -- sucrose and high-fructose corn syrup alike -- is as perilous to public health as a controlled substance like alcohol. Bolstering their argument with statistics on obesity and other chronic disease, as well as evidence that our bodies process sugar in a way that is harmful to our health, they advocate for regulation to temper sugar consumption worldwide."

OK. The insanity of Liberalism!

The quest for utopia will cause brain damage beyond repair. Utopian Morons go about life, and everytime they stumble onto something that they think is dangerous or unfair, their response is always to write a new law or regulation, in the hopes of ridding Earth of all such bad things.

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Re: The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms.... & Sugar?
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2012, 01:52:06 PM »
I went ahead and merged this with the previous entry on the subject radioman.
"A strict observance of the written laws is doubtless one of the high duties of a good citizen, but it is not the highest. The laws of necessity, of self-preservation, of saving our country when in danger, are of higher obligation. To lose our country by a scrupulous adherence to written law, would be to lose the law itself, with life, liberty, property and all those who are enjoying them with us; thus absurdly sacrificing the end to the means."

- Thomas Jefferson

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Re: Toxic Sugar: Should We Regulate It Like Alcohol?
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2012, 01:54:32 PM »
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/02/sugar-toxic-regulation_n_1248397.html

Teaser:
"Should sugar be regulated like alcohol? That's the premise of a new position paper, published today in the journal Nature by three leading obesity researchers from the University of California, San Francisco School of Medicine.

They argue that added sugar in all forms -- sucrose and high-fructose corn syrup alike -- is as perilous to public health as a controlled substance like alcohol. Bolstering their argument with statistics on obesity and other chronic disease, as well as evidence that our bodies process sugar in a way that is harmful to our health, they advocate for regulation to temper sugar consumption worldwide."

OK. The insanity of Liberalism!

The quest for utopia will cause brain damage beyond repair. Utopian Morons go about life, and everytime they stumble onto something that they think is dangerous or unfair, their response is always to write a new law or regulation, in the hopes of ridding Earth of all such bad things.

 BAD ROBOT!


BAD ROBOT is right!

Some o' these people need killin', I swear.  I don't know how much more of this I can take.
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Re: The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms.... & Sugar?
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2012, 02:11:22 PM »
It never occurs to them that they don't have to step in a pile of sh*tte everytime they see it.
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Re: The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms.... & Sugar?
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2012, 02:14:59 PM »
I went ahead and merged this with the previous entry on the subject radioman.

No Problem - sorry i didn't notice the first one. :(
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Re: The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms.... & Sugar?
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2012, 02:19:43 PM »
I went ahead and merged this with the previous entry on the subject radioman.

No Problem - sorry i didn't notice the first one. :(

Well, my title was a tad on the cryptic side, but spot-on in context.
"A strict observance of the written laws is doubtless one of the high duties of a good citizen, but it is not the highest. The laws of necessity, of self-preservation, of saving our country when in danger, are of higher obligation. To lose our country by a scrupulous adherence to written law, would be to lose the law itself, with life, liberty, property and all those who are enjoying them with us; thus absurdly sacrificing the end to the means."

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Re: The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms.... & Sugar?
« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2012, 03:19:24 PM »

If only those Mexicans would take back control of their country.

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Re: The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms.... & Sugar?
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2012, 03:29:26 PM »
It's time to drill along the San Andreas Fault and give it a little nudge. ::gaah::
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« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2012, 03:42:54 PM »

Great, it there a fault line that may also separate the north eastern coast?

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Re: The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms.... & Sugar?
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2012, 05:27:14 PM »
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“We are in the midst of the biggest public health crisis in the history of the world,” Dr. Lustig said.

Damn shame Dr. Ludwig wasn't around for the BLACK FREAKIN PLAGUE.

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