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Re: A RACE based INSULT of the worse kind
« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2011, 03:51:27 PM »
I have semi-personal experience with this sort of thing. One of my relatives, now retired, was a professional firefighter for a large urban FD. Having many years of experience, he was qualified to sit the exam for promotion to battalion commander. He did quite well, with an exam score in the top 5 of the 50+ candidates. However neither he nor any of the other top scorers got the job. The job went to the candidate who scored 17th, because #17 was the highest scoring candidate of the correct skin color.

Liberals of course pat themselves on the back and bask in the self-satisfaction at just how multicultural they are for imposing this sort of asininity on their fellow citizens. But imagine it's you or your family trapped in a burning building. You'd probably like to assume that the fire department's responding personnel occupy their various positions because they were the best qualified. But you can't. Not in this Alice in Wonderland sort of America. It's not unlike the cavalier attitude from the DoD following the Ft. Hood massacre, basically in so many words "the death of a few expendable serfs every now and then is an acceptable price for Diversity".
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Re: A RACE based INSULT of the worse kind
« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2011, 03:56:31 PM »
He's be more honest...still a POS...but more honest if he said...

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Re: A RACE based INSULT of the worse kind
« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2011, 05:40:39 PM »
The sad part is the "standard", before it was lowered, was 66% correct answers. 66 friggin %. ::hysterical::

I am not a math guy, but having to only get 66% and now even less, I wonder what the probability is that you could guess randomly and pass. Sad.Pathetic.

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Re: A RACE based INSULT of the worse kind
« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2011, 05:46:43 PM »
... One of my relatives, now retired, was a professional firefighter for a large urban FD. ... He did quite well, with an exam score in the top 5 of the 50+ candidates. However neither he nor any of the other top scorers got the job. ...

He prolly wouldn't have been hired anyway.  For each job there is a desired skill level capacity, if one does not fit into those parameters he will not be hired.


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Re: A RACE based INSULT of the worse kind
« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2011, 05:51:04 PM »
Well apparently #17 had the only skill required, extra melanin.
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Re: A RACE based INSULT of the worse kind
« Reply #25 on: March 14, 2011, 07:02:44 PM »
.... The job went to the candidate who scored 17th, because #17 was the highest scoring candidate of the correct skin color....

Aside from the implications on a public whose taxpayer dollars and perhaps their very lives are paying for someone else's diversity engineering project, imagine being that minority. Imagine knowing that other men who outscored you and who deserved the promotion more than you were passed over because some government bureaucracy believes that because of the color of your skin or ethnic heritage, you are incapable of success without prejudice against your peers. Under such a regime, even a man who performed well on the test will always question whether he was chosen because of his race, and he will always wonder if his peers and subordinates are judging him on that basis.

Even a subconscious acceptance and approval of such race-based preferences on the part of the beneficiary will undermine his accomplishments, and he will be negatively affected whether he feels it or not. So too will his wife and children, as he brings that attitude home.

Bush called that the "soft bigotry of low expectations". I think it is rather more like a violent attack on minorities, meant to completely undermine their personal self-worth. You can't tell an entire race of people that they cannot succeed without being handed success by government, and expect that race of people to be successful, or to even see themselves as entirely free. It's enslavement without the chains.

It is no wonder that more minorities who break out of those molds and succeed without such affirmative action are conservative. It is also no wonder that such people, while common, are still viewed and treated by the Left as an anomaly that proves the rule.

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Re: A RACE based INSULT of the worse kind
« Reply #26 on: March 14, 2011, 07:21:10 PM »
Guys in Miami they took the swimming part out of the test because(are you ready)Haitians for the most part can't swim.
Now were talking about an area that's criss crossed by canals and surrounded by water and we have cops that don't have to know how to swim.
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Re: A RACE based INSULT of the worse kind
« Reply #27 on: March 14, 2011, 07:51:11 PM »
.... The job went to the candidate who scored 17th, because #17 was the highest scoring candidate of the correct skin color....

Aside from the implications on a public whose taxpayer dollars and perhaps their very lives are paying for someone else's diversity engineering project, imagine being that minority. Imagine knowing that other men who outscored you and who deserved the promotion more than you were passed over because some government bureaucracy believes that because of the color of your skin or ethnic heritage, you are incapable of success without prejudice against your peers. Under such a regime, even a man who performed well on the test will always question whether he was chosen because of his race, and he will always wonder if his peers and subordinates are judging him on that basis.

Even a subconscious acceptance and approval of such race-based preferences on the part of the beneficiary will undermine his accomplishments, and he will be negatively affected whether he feels it or not. So too will his wife and children, as he brings that attitude home.

Bush called that the "soft bigotry of low expectations". I think it is rather more like a violent attack on minorities, meant to completely undermine their personal self-worth. You can't tell an entire race of people that they cannot succeed without being handed success by government, and expect that race of people to be successful, or to even see themselves as entirely free. It's enslavement without the chains.

It is no wonder that more minorities who break out of those molds and succeed without such affirmative action are conservative. It is also no wonder that such people, while common, are still viewed and treated by the Left as an anomaly that proves the rule.



It is undermining thier personal self worth. It's like watching a child being told every day by niave parents they won't amount to nothing. As time passes, the child will begin to believe the lie....Then as parents, they will pass that lie on. The chain unbroken. It's unfortunate the message liberals teach.
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Re: A RACE based INSULT of the worse kind
« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2011, 08:24:36 PM »
Looks like failure is an option.
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Re: A RACE based INSULT of the worse kind
« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2011, 08:39:30 PM »
Sure is JF.  I remember back in my schoolin' days where 66% got you nothin' but a big fat F and a note for your folks to come in and talk to the teacher!  And that wasn't the worst part...that came later when pappy tanned my behind!
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Re: A RACE based INSULT of the worse kind
« Reply #30 on: March 14, 2011, 09:34:22 PM »
Sure is JF.  I remember back in my schoolin' days where 66% got you nothin' but a big fat F and a note for your folks to come in and talk to the teacher!  And that wasn't the worst part...that came later when pappy tanned my behind!


  If I ever failed at anything It was a good old fashioned beating and a half.My grades had to be passing and that started in 1st grade and I didn't speak English for the first half of the year. I passed because it was first grade more than anything else. But from there on no breaks pass fail my choice.

  If I got a 66 on that test pride would stop me from taking the job. But since were dealing with a bunch that has been rewarded for failure it means nothing. The translation from Italian to English is "they have no face"in other words they have no shame so how can they have any pride.
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Re: A RACE based INSULT of the worse kind
« Reply #31 on: March 14, 2011, 11:07:23 PM »
There's been times, in hiring, where I believed the better qualified candidate did not "test" the best. There have been times when a "test" was required, which I believed unnecessary to hire the best candidate. Of course, these were not gov't jobs.

I don't necessarily have issue with a "test", but I believe we do a disservice by only promoting or hiring by a test. Imo, we pass on many qualified people by not going beyond a score on a piece of paper. Consideration should be given thru an interview process, recommendations, past training and experience,etc. A host of qualifications should go into a hire.

We've all known qualified people who may not do well in certain aspects of a job. In the private sector, companies work with employees to strengthen weakness. I believe minorities, heck everyone, would benefit by broadening the decision making process. We could truely get the best qualified.

In the other hand, if you can't score a 66 and need the bar lowered...there probably isn't much to work with. ::whatgives:: ::doh::
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Re: A RACE based INSULT of the worse kind
« Reply #32 on: March 15, 2011, 05:26:50 AM »
You needed that job . . .

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