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Re: Executive Order: National Defense Resources Preparedness
« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2012, 01:55:13 PM »
Yup, we have Domestic Enemies in abundance.
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Re: Executive Order: National Defense Resources Preparedness
« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2012, 03:59:09 PM »
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Re: Executive Order: National Defense Resources Preparedness
« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2012, 11:38:31 PM »
Here's what Ann has to say to the "nothing to see here" conclusion of Ed Morrissey and others:


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Why the NDRP E.O. of 3/16/2012 is Different
Posted by Ann Barnhardt - March 18, AD 2012 8:46 PM MST
I'm getting really, really sick of these pundits and talking heads on the so-called "right" clucking their tongues at the unwashed masses and telling us that we're crazy and paranoid to be the least bit concerned each and every time the Obama regime takes another stride toward totalitarianism. And it is EACH AND EVERY TIME.

Let me break it down for Ed Morrissey, and all of the other pundits in that social circle so that you can get your heads around this. We are concerned and even, dare I say it, panicked, because we can see the big picture of the Obama regime for what it is. We can take the totality of the dataset and draw not just a logical, reasoned conclusion, but a conclusion that is supported by centuries - nay millenia - of past precedent. We are, as Patrick Henry put it, "willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it."

Why is the 3/16/2012 Executive Order worthy of grave concern? Simply put, because of the man and the regime who issued it. This is a man, and a regime that has done the following:

-Sent the Secretary of Defense (Leon Panetta) to Congress to put them on notice that despite the explicitness of the Constitution, the consent of the Congress to wage war will neither be solicited nor required by the Commander in Chief or his regime. The CiC and SECDEF may, if they feel like it and can find the time, MAY inform the Congress of "kinetic military actions" henceforth.

-Declared the First Amendment null and void by mandating that every American must, as a condition of legal residency in the United States, pay for abortions. Mr. Morrissey, being a Catholic, you should understand that what the Obama regime has done is demand your very soul. In order to remain corporeally "free" in the United States of America, you must enter into mortal sin, reject Jesus Christ in totality, turn your back on your Crucified Savior, excommunicate yourself from the Church, and consign your immortal soul to eternal hell. If that isn't the prohibiting of the free exercise of religion, then nothing is or ever could be.

-Committed acts of war upon the sovereign nation of Mexico and her people, willfully arming narco-terrorists with the intent of using the optics of hundreds if not thousands of brutally murdered Mexicans in order to stir up and justify the overthrow of the Second Amendment to the Constitution. This is textbook sedition.

-Has coordinated with regime cronies in the Legislative Branch to enable the Obama regime to operate for an entire term WITH NO BUDGET WHATSOEVER. In this time, the Obama regime has looted the United States Treasury and debased the currency of the United States to the tune of SEVEN TRILLION DOLLARS, or roughly one-half the gross domestic product.

This is just a very, very, very short list. Additionally, with each passing day it is being further revealed that EVERY SINGLE PERSON Barack Obama has ever associated with has been not merely a Marxist, not merely a Socialist, not merely a Communist, but a TOTALITARIAN hellbent on the destruction of the United States of America.

I'll concede the point that if this Executive Order was issued by - get this - Jimmy Carter or even Bill Clinton, I could buy the idea that it was merely an emergency protocol housekeeping item of some sort geared toward the reaction of the Federal Government after a nuclear attack. I'd be skeptical, but I would be open to the argument.

Not so now. These people are totalitarian tyrants who are no longer even trying to hide their intentions. See the bulleted items above. There comes a point where you have to pull your head out of the sand, synthesize a massive dataset into its obvious, coherent output, and be willing to know the worst, and to provide for it.

Denying the obvious, even when the obvious is horrific, is not some sort of virtue. Keeping people numb to reality and drunk on a sugary treacle of distraction and reassurance that "everything's okay" even when every iota of data and experience tells us that everything is NOT OKAY is not a virtuous public service. It is a massive failure in charity, both towards those who are misled and falsely-consoled by your assurances, and toward those whose intellects and intentions you backhandedly insult.

Remember, people exactly like Ed Morrissey and his ilk were calling everyone warning of Hitler's danger to mankind "alarmist", "conspiracy theorists" and "paranoid" up until 4:40 am on September 1, 1939 when the Luftwaffe attacked Weilun. And before that mess was over, 70 million human beings were dead. The hell that the Obama regime is determined to unleash on the world will make World War II look like a mere bar fight.

Yeah, I'm sorry I can't tell you the day, hour and minute that open war is going to break out, both overseas and here in the homeland, or the exact date, time and high-tick in the markets before the entire system implodes. There is a name for people who claim to know exact dates of future events - they're called CHARLATANS. If that failure makes me non-credible and paranoid, then I wear that sash with pride, and am consoled and flattered by the caliber of the company of Jeremiahs and Cassandras throughout history that I join. But I do know that it is coming, and that the NDRP Executive Order of 3/16/2012 is, WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE DAY AND THE REGIME THAT ISSUED IT, entirely ominous and certainly tactical.

I'll leave you with the video of Larry Grathwohl, which can never, ever be posted, spread and publicized too much. Recorded in 1980, when Barack Obama was nothing more than a drug-addled foreign student at Occidental College and not yet even a glimmer in the eye of the Totalitarians who would later adopt him as their public persona, Grathwohl recounts conversations led by Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, the founders and leaders of the Weather Underground, the Marxist-Communist-Totalitarian terrorist group that Grathwohl was tasked to infiltrate, and the eventual intimates, ghostwriter and political handlers of Barack and Michelle Obama. The Totalitarian cabal that runs the Obama regime has intended, for decades, to collapse the United States, overthrow it, establish a Totalitarian oligarchy, and as a necessary corollary to that, murder at least ten percent of the population as "die-hard, unreformable capitalists." In 1980, that 10% worked out to 25 million human beings. Today, it would be 31 million - but heck, what's another Holocaust (6 million) give or take?

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Re: Executive Order: National Defense Resources Preparedness
« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2012, 04:45:46 AM »
      Soup drink cherry juice a good friend has the same affliction and he swears by it,besides cant hurt but he does swear by it.

I think cranberry juice is supposed to be helpful too .

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Re: Executive Order: National Defense Resources Preparedness
« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2012, 07:18:25 AM »
Once again, Ann kicks butt and names names!

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Re: Executive Order: National Defense Resources Preparedness
« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2012, 09:31:45 AM »
I appreciate Ann but I side with Ed Morrisey on this one. I agree that O'Bongo is evil and I agree that he has been systematically stepping all over the Constitution.

Nevertheless, this appears to be yet another (regular) updating of a document that has existed for more than thirty years and nothing more.

Anyone who believes that O'Bongo needs to have an executive order to implement unconstitutional acts has not been paying attention.

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Re: Executive Order: National Defense Resources Preparedness
« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2012, 11:25:39 AM »
I see it as a Valkyrie type deal. Take an established contingency plan and orient it in such a way that it produces a desired result while appearing to simply be running according to the script. You can hide a lot of things in plain sight by making them into banal and perfunctory procedural orders.

If any happen to be a Star Wars nerd, that was the same strategy used by the Emperor to destroy the Jedi. Order 66 was one of hundreds of contingency orders, so no one paid it any mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09n0qd_n4c0
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Re: Executive Order: National Defense Resources Preparedness
« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2012, 01:51:01 PM »
Interesting point made here, in the comments about a definite change.
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Re: Executive Order: National Defense Resources Preparedness
« Reply #28 on: March 19, 2012, 01:58:50 PM »
I would agree that the ability to control commercial activity is the most troubling to me.  In pondering things which could trigger "Order 66" the systematic trashing of the economy that Stymie is conducting is a twofer for that Tyrant!
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Re: Executive Order: National Defense Resources Preparedness
« Reply #29 on: March 19, 2012, 02:01:33 PM »
I'm equally concerned about the change in language from "times of peace" to "times of need".  They will be deciding the definition of "need".

trap is right about SCOaMF not needing any legal leg to stand on, nevertheless .........
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Re: Executive Order: National Defense Resources Preparedness
« Reply #30 on: March 19, 2012, 05:49:33 PM »
I'm equally concerned about the change in language from "times of peace" to "times of need".  They will be deciding the definition of "need".

trap is right about SCOaMF not needing any legal leg to stand on, nevertheless .........

True, he needs no EO, he already walks over our Constitution with ease butt Executive Order: National Defense Resources Preparedness No.66, greases the skids for many who would otherwise be reluctant participants.




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Re: Executive Order: National Defense Resources Preparedness
« Reply #31 on: March 19, 2012, 07:39:17 PM »
I'm equally concerned about the change in language from "times of peace" to "times of need".  They will be deciding the definition of "need".

trap is right about SCOaMF not needing any legal leg to stand on, nevertheless .........

True, he needs no EO, he already walks over our Constitution with ease butt Executive Order: National Defense Resources Preparedness No.66, greases the skids for many who would otherwise be reluctant participants.


True dat.
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Re: Executive Order: National Defense Resources Preparedness
« Reply #32 on: March 19, 2012, 08:17:57 PM »
  Can't wait to hear what our heros in DC will say about this one. ::rockethrow::
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Re: Executive Order: National Defense Resources Preparedness
« Reply #33 on: March 19, 2012, 08:27:20 PM »
There's nothing that can be done about this until Harry Reid no longer runs the Senate.
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Re: Executive Order: National Defense Resources Preparedness
« Reply #34 on: March 20, 2012, 07:31:07 AM »
  Can't wait to hear what our heros in DC will say about this one. ::rockethrow::

So far the silence is deafening!

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Re: Executive Order: National Defense Resources Preparedness
« Reply #35 on: March 20, 2012, 02:25:08 PM »
More Grathwohl testimony on Ayers & Dohrn
Posted by Ann Barnhardt - March 19, AD 2012 8:59 PM MST
In the Breitbartian spirit of VETTING . . .

Watch this. It is an excerpt from another documentary on the Weather Underground. It is simultaneously fascinating and terrifying.

[blockquote] The Real Story of the Weathermen

The Real Story of the Weathermen

This is an excerpt from a 1982 CBC documentary on the KGB activities in North America. This portion concerns the ties between the Weathermen and the DGI (Cuban Intelligence) - By the way take special note of what is said at 1:14, 1:23, and 9:06[/blockquote]

Remember that everything goes back to the KGB, and their agents, moles and spies in the U.S., particularly the U.S. government and academia. Joe McCarthy was right. More right than he could have ever imagined.

"Days of Rage 2.0" is coming this summer - mere weeks away.

Stay with it to the very end. The last few seconds are chilling.

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Informant: We know that the Weathermen Underground organization went to Cuba and utilized the same kinds of techniques that we utilized. These people [the Weathermen] did engage in direct bombing and killing in the United States, so I fear it.

Interviewer: And yet, most of them haven't been heard from for a long, long time

Informant: That's right (smiling), but they're still out there . . . they're underground. And the question is, over a long period of time, what does it take to activate them?  
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Just a wild guess - how about usurping and overthrowing the government of the United States? Do you think that might "activate" them?
 



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Re: Executive Order: National Defense Resources Preparedness
« Reply #36 on: March 20, 2012, 05:19:09 PM »
Now that's scary time to go and get more ammo. ::rockets::
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Re: Executive Order: National Defense Resources Preparedness
« Reply #37 on: March 22, 2012, 12:56:25 PM »
Another alarm sounder.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-what-president-obama-so-afraid

"Taken in conjunction with the NSA’s new Utah spy center (which will collect and archive the complete contents of every email, tweet, Facebook post, Google search, phone call, and text message) and the National Defense Authorization Act, it’s clear that the Obama administration is expecting trouble from within."

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Re: Executive Order: National Defense Resources Preparedness
« Reply #38 on: March 22, 2012, 01:34:35 PM »

Expecting trouble within, why? 
Is there anything going on now
that would cause him to have
that thought?
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Re: Executive Order: National Defense Resources Preparedness
« Reply #39 on: March 22, 2012, 08:09:51 PM »
Now that's scary time to go and get more ammo. ::rockets::

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