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New National Park Service rules for non-recreating
« on: May 01, 2012, 08:11:21 PM »
Planning a vacation this summer to Miami’s Biscayne Bay for a little fishing?

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Think again, because the National Park Service wants to set aside a large swath of the pristine area as a marine reserve zone, so you might have to leave the fishing poles at home. And the boat.

Perhaps horseback riding is more your speed and the family plans to ride through California’s Sequoia or Kings Canyon National Parks? Sorry, but all of the permits were pulled for those activities this summer.

Or maybe you just want to lounge on the soft sands of North Carolina’s Outer Banks and read a novel, fly a kite with the kids, toss a Frisbee to the dog, and watch dad catch some fish?

No, no, no and no.

Beachcombers along specific stretches of those legendary shores are seeing signs telling them to leave their kites and pets at home, and to watch where they step.

“Leave no footprints behind. Walk in water where footprints wash away,” read the signs posted in February by federal officials.

Beaches that once welcomed fisherman to drive up to the water’s edge are also off-limits to the vehicles, and so is fishing.

These vacation destinations are all national parks that once encouraged such recreational uses and enjoyment but their new “no trespassing” attitudes have angered the local communities, and some in Congress as well.

In March, Rep. Walter Jones (R–N.C.) challenged the restrictions imposed by the beach signs, which were the result of battles with environmentalists to protect certain species.

The park service that operates the Cape Hatteras National Seashore pledged to replace them, and the new signs will read: “Walk near water’s edge. Stay below high tide line.”

Still not allowed: kites, pets, vehicles, or fishing. Sunbathing is permissible if you don’t mind getting hit by the waves every few minutes.

These damn people keep "ruling" more and more "public" portions of the country off limits to its citizens.

Agenda 21, folks ...........
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Re: New National Park Service rules for non-recreating
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2012, 08:21:46 PM »
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Agenda 21, folks ...........

Quite right.

Sickening...
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Re: New National Park Service rules for non-recreating
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2012, 08:26:06 PM »
It's gonna take a state refusing to recognize a federal edict, and being bold enough to arrest any federal agents attempting to enforce the edict against the state's will. Unless and until that happens, this will only continue and escalate.
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Re: New National Park Service rules for non-recreating
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2012, 08:30:57 PM »
It's gonna take a state refusing to recognize a federal edict, and being bold enough to arrest any federal agents attempting to enforce the edict against the state's will. Unless and until that happens, this will only continue and escalate.

Exactly.  And it's going to take the state's legislature to take the financial hit, in every aspect, that will surely come.

What do you imagine Texas could have/should have done when they attempted to boot the TSA and the Feds threatened to shut down all flights to Texas?
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Re: New National Park Service rules for non-recreating
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2012, 08:36:10 PM »
It's gonna take a state refusing to recognize a federal edict, and being bold enough to arrest any federal agents attempting to enforce the edict against the state's will. Unless and until that happens, this will only continue and escalate.

Exactly.  And it's going to take the state's legislature to take the financial hit, in every aspect, that will surely come.

What do you imagine Texas could have/should have done when they attempted to boot the TSA and the Feds threatened to shut down all flights to Texas?

I don't know what Texas should have done. I can't second guess. I sure know what I would've liked for them to do though! But you know, in your comment resides the truth... "it's going to take the state's legislature to take the financial hit, in every aspect, that will surely come."

Until a state does not fear that financial hit, we're unlikely to get our resistance ally from a state. But remove that financial hit from the equation, and that boldness is likely to be forthcoming from SOME quarter. We spend an awful lot of time looking fiscal insolvency in the face. Perhaps federal fiscal insolvency will make the federal government properly irrelevant to the states for the states to begin resisting.
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Re: New National Park Service rules for non-recreating
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2012, 08:44:48 PM »
Texas is the only state that I can think of that possesses the infrastructure necessary to serve as a test case. They could conceivably withstand the peaceful stand-off that would come in the face of saying "no" to the Øbamessiah. If there was shots fired all bets are off...

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Re: New National Park Service rules for non-recreating
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2012, 08:56:58 PM »
I think a test of wills could occur even in the absence of infrastructure though.

Think about states with a particularly independent libertarian/conservative streak. Alaska. Utah. Wyoming. Texas. Arizona. North Dakota. Maybe a few others. They may not possess the infrastructure to mount a sustained resistance, but forcing the federal government to either back down, or blockade necessary resources in order to gain compliance for an edict viewed as illegitimate could be a showdown worth having, especially if the federal government cash spigot is shut off by fiscal insolvency, and the state has nothing to lose in resisting.
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Re: New National Park Service rules for non-recreating
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2012, 09:55:30 PM »
When the dollar becomes a questionable currency in its own right,  individual States will no longer have any incentive to worry about it.  Even before then,  Wyoming almost has enough money in its oil trust to run the state based just on the interest.  They have also been separating their own programs from the ( redundant )programs of the Fed.  They can pull the plug and go without the Fed at pretty much a moments notice now. The fed has been trying to do land grabs and treating WY as a resource colony for some time now. Likewise,  Obama's Admin refuses to remit payments owed to the Stare  by the Fed an in now 3 years in arrears.  Its not going to take much more pushing before WY tells the fed to shove it. Everyone there is armed, libertarian and pissed. The Fed would have to nuke the State to "win"

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Re: New National Park Service rules for non-recreating
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2012, 11:06:05 PM »
Nuking them is out of the question for people that abhor nuclear weapons like demonrats.

Would be a wonderful present to see Wy to tell the Fed to kiss off. I'd bet the DemonRats would all piss themselves at the prospect. ::laserkill::
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Re: New National Park Service rules for non-recreating
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2012, 07:23:00 AM »
How do you shut down National Parks?  If you cannot get the people to not go, it's pointless.  Perhaps states in which these parks reside that have these asshat rules should put up huge billboards listing all the "can't do's" along access points to these parks.  Do a statewide TV & radio campaign announcing state parks as a better option for vacationers.  Kick these NPS Nazi's where it hurts!
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