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Re: Worst Fears Realized, or Someone Playing on them?
« Reply #40 on: May 14, 2012, 02:00:18 PM »
Supposition: It's not a real election.  The fix is in.
The machines are rigged and when the votes are tallied the states he carries
will be plausible blue states and blueish swing states.  We will know it's rigged
but what will we do? 

I think that sort of vote rigging will be very difficult- especially this year. However, I agree, he is acting as if unworried about the election result.  I can think of a couple of plausible explanations

1) He has somehow rigged the outcome of the election
2) He doesn't expect there to be an election, and plans to seize power regardless of result
3) He feels has succeeded on putting us on a irrevocable  path to destruction, and wants to bailout before the crash.
4) He is a petty, selfish narcissistic loon, who actually believes he is destined to save the world and therefore feels that divine providence will step in and ensure his success no matter what he does now.
5) Combinations of the above






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Re: Worst Fears Realized, or Someone Playing on them?
« Reply #41 on: May 14, 2012, 02:03:35 PM »

The Tea Partyer's would applaud his appointment to Sec Tres in unison
only the establishment would dislike it.  Another aspect to Ron not running
a third way is Rand. 


Treas makes the most sense to me, it might be a reach for Veep, but if they keep floating BS like Christie & The Huckster I might take Paul just to stiff those other morons!  Anyway, for whatever reason the two camps aren't talking and that doesn't bode well.  And not sure Ron cares about what Rand thinks of a 3rd party effort...and the hardcore PaulBots might not accept anything less anyway...most of those will write him in anyway so there could be about 10% of the likely voters already off the board, throw in Obama's hardcore nutjob leftists and theres another 30%...assuming Mitt can capture 35% that leaves 15% to fight over...and with a fudge factor of at least 5% for cheating...Mitt needs the other 10%.  Paul runs 3rd party and this math gets a lot tighter.
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Re: Worst Fears Realized, or Someone Playing on them?
« Reply #42 on: May 14, 2012, 02:06:04 PM »
Supposition: It's not a real election.  The fix is in.
The machines are rigged and when the votes are tallied the states he carries
will be plausible blue states and blueish swing states.  We will know it's rigged
but what will we do?

I think that sort of vote rigging will be very difficult- especially this year. However, I agree, he is acting as if unworried about the election result.  I can think of a couple of plausible explanations

1) He has somehow rigged the outcome of the election
2) He doesn't expect there to be an election, and plans to seize power regardless of result
3) He feels has succeeded on putting us on a irrevocable  path to destruction, and wants to bailout before the crash.
4) He is a petty, selfish narcissistic loon, who actually believes he is destined to save the world and therefore feels that divine providence will step in and ensure his success no matter what he does now.
5) Combinations of the above


The rigging must not be going well if he has to shore up his loony base by gaying it up, he doesn't care about bailing out since in or out of power he has the means to bail anyway...so #2 & #4 look to be still in play!
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Re: Worst Fears Realized, or Someone Playing on them?
« Reply #43 on: May 14, 2012, 03:28:24 PM »
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And not sure Ron cares about what Rand thinks of a 3rd party effort.

Probably not but he is daddy and he knows running third party would not help his son's political future.
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The rigging must not be going well if he has to shore up his loony base by gaying it up, he doesn't care about bailing out since in or out of power he has the means to bail anyway...so #2 & #4 look to be still in play!

#4:
There is no "he", he is a puppet controlled by a conglomerate headed by "them",
Soros and Ayers otherwise known as the oligarchy.  "They" are much smarter than "he" is.

#2
They know better than to pull a #2, that type of chaos only works when there is a certainty of overwhelming success.  They know they are assured an unceasingly protracted battle that will result in a wasteland no matter the winner.

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The rigging must not be going well if he has to shore up his loony base by gaying it up,

He's not shoring up his base he's writing history.  The omnipotent and loving one of all vs the hard, cruel, moneygrubbing and vengeful right.


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Re: Worst Fears Realized, or Someone Playing on them?
« Reply #44 on: May 14, 2012, 04:02:12 PM »


#4:
There is no "he", he is a puppet controlled by a conglomerate headed by "them",
Soros and Ayers otherwise known as the oligarchy.  "They" are much smarter than "he" is.

#2
They know better than to pull a #2, that type of chaos only works when there is a certainty of overwhelming success.  They know they are assured an unceasingly protracted battle that will result in a wasteland no matter the winner.


If there are handlers, how do we know the handlers do not want a wasteland? Real revolutions require Chaos - the destruction of the old, so the new can be ushered in.  Once you talk of Handlers, you open yourself up to the full monte of NWO/Illuminati/Bilderberg/Alex Jones Conspiracy theory. Mittens also works for them, and disposing of Obama now just furthers  "their" plans. How ambitious are they? Are they just Rothschild bankers looking for a new country to sink into debt and loot, or do they have more grandiose plans for a Socialist world government in mind? How would one know?

The existence of handlers really doesn't change the calculus much. We don't know "their" motivations or end goal, so #2 is just as possible with them at the helm as Obama's expectations would be set by "them", likewise with #4, as Obama would be expecting "them" to manage his fortunes for him. I think Obama is a true believer, but if under the influences of others,  are they also true believers? If not, then what agenda are they trying to implement?
 
Given Borat's behavior as a clue to "their" aims, and assuming all that has happened so far has been going according to plan for them, taking over an intact and powerful United States and wielding its power doesn't seem to be on the agenda. Hence, leaving it in utter ruins, may be a side effect or the stated goal, but it does seem that is the direction they seem to be working towards.

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Re: Worst Fears Realized, or Someone Playing on them?
« Reply #45 on: May 14, 2012, 05:34:24 PM »
He doesn't care because he watched clinton make multi millions on the speech circuit. Plus, he may not be Prez, but who do you think the media will turn for an opinion? Outside of the Presidency, obama will be literally free to state ANYTHING.....
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Re: Worst Fears Realized, or Someone Playing on them?
« Reply #46 on: May 14, 2012, 07:51:08 PM »
He doesn't care because he watched clinton make multi millions on the speech circuit. Plus, he may not be Prez, but who do you think the media will turn for an opinion? Outside of the Presidency, obama will be literally free to state ANYTHING.....

But if revolution/chaos is the expected endgame to usher in a new government, who will be asking for speakers for what circuit?  What media will survive to go to "the man"?
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Re: Worst Fears Realized, or Someone Playing on them?
« Reply #47 on: May 14, 2012, 08:07:31 PM »
  I thought this was going to be a story on the Chicago bath houses.
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Re: Worst Fears Realized, or Someone Playing on them?
« Reply #48 on: May 14, 2012, 08:40:42 PM »

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