Topic: Arizona governor signs bill to authorize creation of state guard

[Pandora]

That's a militia force that could be mobilized if the National Guard is unavailable or "for any reason" considered necessary by the governor.

Spokesman Matt Benson did not immediately return a call for comment on whether Brewer plans to create the force.

No.  She signed the bill because she likes writing her name. 

The bill signed Thursday would authorize an Arizona governor to establish the state guard to protect lives and property. Under the bill, the governor could do that if the National Guard is mobilized for federal duty or "for any reason the governor considers to be necessary."

The Arizona Constitution authorizes a militia, and current state law specifies that the militia consists of the National Guard, the Arizona state guard "when organized" and the "unorganized militia."

The whole of the legal citizenry.

[Libertas]

Saddle up and keep your powder dry!   

[IronDioPriest]

Texas? Wyoming? Who's next?

[BMG]

Sweet monkey muffins! That's some good stuff right there. 

[Libertas]

Yup.  They keep this up I might just abondon this wasteland and head for freedomland.

[Glock32]

I'm sure the legal challenges from the Feds are already in the works. They foisted the National Guard boondoggle on the states a long time ago, as somehow the only legal "militia" a state can have. Nevermind that militias were instrumental in the Revolution, as well as the Civil War on both sides.

The game is set, the pieces are in motion. Everything is leading to the eventual "Oh yeah? Make us." moment. When, where, and under what circumstances it occurs, those are the only real questions.

[Libertas]

I'm sure the legal challenges from the Feds are already in the works. They foisted the National Guard boondoggle on the states a long time ago, as somehow the only legal "militia" a state can have. Nevermind that militias were instrumental in the Revolution, as well as the Civil War on both sides.

The game is set, the pieces are in motion. Everything is leading to the eventual "Oh yeah? Make us." moment. When, where, and under what circumstances it occurs, those are the only real questions.

I think I'm feeling more of those moments coming on.

[Alphabet Soup]

I had an interesting, if not somewhat troubling conversation with my older brother last night. He is a real "law & order" guy and my subject matter expert when it comes to matters of law and constitution.

We concurred on why SCOTUS reached the decision that they did, but differed on the consequences. He thought it a win for Arizona but when I pointed out that now the cops could check ID's all that they wanted, but just couldn't do anything with the information it stopped him in his tracks. Knowing that Immigration and Border Security is squarely in the purview of the fed, and having heard from Øbozo that "Arizona can go to hell", unless the state ignores SCOTUS or the fed they are screwed.

I suggested that they continue to make the formal request for the fed to do its job and, in the meanwhile, carry on as if the ruling had never been made. If you come across an illegal, process him in the same fashion you had been previously - with one exception - put him to work. Digging ditches, cleaning sewers, I don't care what - just make him productive while you wait for the feds to come get him. Make sure that the feds know that he is available for release into their custody at any time, but you intend to defray expenses until that time by virtue of his enforced labor.

My brother's response to me was "writ of habeas corpus" (issued by the feds). I say "Fine by me - the prisoner is available for release into your custody at any time with only one stipulation - he is no longer welcome in the State of Arizona. You're more than welcome to his miserable carcass but get him the hell outta our community!"

His reply is that it doesn't work that way and my retort is, "It isn't working any way"

I asked if he was aware of any instance of the fed arbitrarily invalidating joint operating agreements like they did with Arizona and he couldn't think of one off-hand. They won't do their job - they announced to that effect - and they told Arizona that Arizona would not be allowed to do the job either.

The law is an ass...and I'm a muleskinner.

[Weisshaupt]

My brother's response to me was "writ of habeas corpus" (issued by the feds). I say "Fine by me - the prisoner is available for release into your custody at any time with only one stipulation - he is no longer welcome in the State of Arizona. You're more than welcome to his miserable carcass but get him the hell outta our community!"

His reply is that it doesn't work that way and my retort is, "It isn't working any way"

I agree that wouldn't work.

1) It will cost too much money to keep them housed and detained.
2) It will be impossible to enforce the stipulation that the Fed remove them from AZ.

My plan is harsher, but I feel it will be more effective: You catch and release the illegals just as the Fed wants, who have in theory, been confirmed by the Fed to be in the country illegally because they will still do the check. You then post the names and address of the illegals who have been so identified on a webpage - along with lists of other stops and crimes etc, but noting specifically that these persons are illegal. Or even implement a law that requires those individuals - WHO HAVE BEEN DETERMINED TO HAVE COMMITTED A CRIME with the Fed check, to have their names and addresses listed.

  Then announce (officially or unofficially, with the latter being more effective)  that due to caseload the State of AZ can no longer pursue or investigate  cases of crimes committed against illegals. This might create a vigilante problem - but what is the State to do? They are swamped and underfunded.   The illegals- knowing they can get no Justice in the State, will leave on their own, or the Fed will be forced to start taking them for their own protection.

Yes the Fed could probably bring a a legal case against the State for endangering those individuals, but as the same time the State counter sues for the same reason: letting criminals run free in AZ is endangerment of  their citizens, and then cite the Illegal crime stats, and ask, must we wait till these criminals actually commit a violent crime and kill someone before we can deport them? And then present the list of people killed  robbed, raped or otherwise harmed by Illegals after they were stopped and released.

[Libertas]

I like it Weisshaupt.   But I doubt it will ever be implemented.  But I think an uptick in chaos is in the cards.

[AmericanPatriot]

Why not escort them to the border and send them back?
After all, Arizona is a border state.

[Sectionhand]

Why not escort them to the border and send them back?
After all, Arizona is a border state.

So is Ohio . Bring 'em up here and let 'em swim to Canada !

[Alphabet Soup]

Why not escort them to the border and send them back?
After all, Arizona is a border state.

Because that's expressly the job of the feds and because Øbozo & co have promised to come down hard~n~heavy if they dare do that. This is what is putting Arizona in a no-win situation that is fairly unique. We need to make it not so unique in supportive ways. Unfortunately because of the feckless Nazis in my state we will never be players - only victims.

[Glock32]

Vigilantism is the only recourse left, the Feds have seen to that.  This is treachery of the highest order.  American citizens are being killed, robbed, and raped by these invaders, and "our" government not only does nothing to stop it, it actually sides with and enables the invaders!  I can't even adequately express in words how much I hate this cabal of kommissars.

[IronDioPriest]

I can't even adequately express in words how much I hate this cabal of kommissars.

It comes through, trust me. You're not alone.
 

[charlesoakwood]

My Call to the Department of Justice Racism And Civil Liberties HOTLINE!!

[Libertas]

Need one of those "hotlines" for Dem's, but I figure "hot lead" is coming soon enough anyway, so...nevermind!

[warpmine]

Need one of those "hotlines" for Dem's, but I figure "hot lead" is coming soon enough anyway, so...nevermind!

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