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Re: One problem today, kids aren't taught respect.
« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2011, 09:47:56 PM »
The parents?  Since this spot was used as a party spot for some time and right in the open, where the hell were the police?  When the police abandon their job, then things escalate until events like this happen.

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Re: One problem today, kids aren't taught respect.
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Re: One problem today, kids aren't taught respect.
« Reply #22 on: March 22, 2011, 11:39:36 PM »
There were 3 boys in our house. We were rowdy.....and we were whipped. Not one time did I ever believe any correction I received were out of anger. I was a kid, but I wasn't stupid. I knew when I did wrong and I understood the consequence. I knew my parents loved me.
A parent who may lash out in anger doesn't need a reason....only an excuse. Today, the line between correction and anger has been skewed to the point any physical correction is now considered abuse. We are a lesser country for it today.

I feel for anyone who may have been struck out of anger...but I do not resent any correction my parents deemed fit. I guess they would be considered abusive by todays (non) standard......I believe they were great parents.


I'll also thank a teacher I had in the third grade...I wish I remembered her name, but I remember vividly how she corrected me and imo, the profound effect it had in my life.

See, I was a hellion. A pest. Nothing destructive, but lets just say I deserved every whippin I ever got. I guess today I'd be drugged up, labeled with some alphebet disease.....But this one time, she had enough. She left the room, told us to keep seated...But I couldn't and she came in and caught me....Calling kids names, makin em cry ( I was good at it). She took me by the arm and proceeded to use a ruler on my hand. Several times. Up and down the rows. Seemed like an eternity, but I'm sure it was only a second or two.

Embarrassed the hell out of me....and after that, all it took was the threat....Funny, I became an A student after that incident.

If I were given "time out" by my parents, who knows where I'd be. If I was just sent home or passed from grade to grade, who knows where I'd be.

Such a simple term.....Easily understood.... "spare the rod, spoil the child".....
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Re: One problem today, kids aren't taught respect.
« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2011, 06:49:11 AM »
I agree Don.  When I got whupped, I certainly deserved it, and while my pappy was mad at what I'd done and paddled me good, he didn't do it because he liked it, he did it because it was necessary to send the message in as direct a manner as possible that there are consequences for poor choices.

I turned out allright.  (No jokes now!)

And I was a handful, a joker and prankster, and I excelled at my craft.  I was kind of a smart-ass and prone to mouthing off.  (Shocked, I know!)  And the latter got me in trouble more than anything.  And at home the seven dirty words in my day started long before George Carlin came along, they were "just wait till your father gets home"!

Now days, I too would be pumped full of drugs and know every school counselor in the system!   ::)

And a "time out" in my day?!   ::hysterical::  Yeah, it was called "go to your room"!  My parents lamented that doing that with me was a complete waste of time, as I had a good imagination and could make my own fun out of very little.

I think some of the old adages are spot on, and that includes "spare the rod, spoil the child"!  I am seeing the failure of "time outs" with some of my nephews...the worst thing you can do to them is take their Wii away...kids today lack imagination...too much digital stimulus is out there to entice them.  And few go outside anymore.  I remember summer days where I was up early and stayed out till past nightfall...only cruising by my house or another friends house for quick meals and then out again.  You see nothing but largely desolate parks and fields now, nary a kid in sight...

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Re: One problem today, kids aren't taught respect.
« Reply #24 on: March 23, 2011, 06:49:40 AM »





That is awesome, we gotta add that one to our options!

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Re: One problem today, kids aren't taught respect.
« Reply #25 on: March 23, 2011, 07:46:19 AM »
I make a bit of a distinction between "lashing out in anger" and lashing out because of an anger-management problem.

There are plenty of times I've spanked my children when I was steaming mad, yelling at the top of my lungs. I was angry at what they'd done, and definitely in reactionary mode. But I have always preceded spankings with a quick "I love you, and I don't like doing this, but you have to learn not to __________." That was enough, in my opinion, to ensure that relationship and trust were not damaged, and that after the spanking and crying were over, discussion on the merits could be meaningful.

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Re: One problem today, kids aren't taught respect.
« Reply #26 on: March 23, 2011, 08:27:02 AM »
My kids got it mainly when they did something reckless where they could be hurt badly. If they did something that scared me they cried. As for the rest of kids crap they got yelled and and a swat on the rump.
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Re: One problem today, kids aren't taught respect.
« Reply #27 on: March 23, 2011, 09:05:56 AM »
. . .
She did slap me in the face when I was 21, and married.

Because . . .?

Mouth.  I rarely got in trouble for anything I did; it was usually something I said.  People don't like to hear the truth, and I was never really big on tact.



What a relief. Thought it wuz sometin Gunsmith did . . . or said . . .
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Re: One problem today, kids aren't taught respect.
« Reply #28 on: March 23, 2011, 12:37:16 PM »
I remember summer days where I was up early and stayed out till past nightfall...only cruising by my house or another friends house for quick meals and then out again


Libertas, That IS me......We were gone on our bikes and would return at dark. No cell phones, no video games, just our friends and the park. I remember returning home, exhausted at times, and mom telling us to get in the tub. I remember times when I whined and she say "If your dumb enough to sleep in the grime, go ahead". Well, many times I was dumb enough...LOLOLOL  We also knew, if you didn't bathe that nite, there was no making it up the next morning, you were grimy until that nite.

Man, thanks for the memories. ::thumbsup::
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Re: One problem today, kids aren't taught respect.
« Reply #29 on: March 23, 2011, 02:30:20 PM »
Yeah, them were the days!

Summer days seemed like they lasted forever, had more fun than I can count...little did I realize how truly good I had it!

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Re: One problem today, kids aren't taught respect.
« Reply #30 on: March 23, 2011, 04:23:35 PM »
I spoke to Mom today and told her what we were talking about for a second the phone went dead and then she said that if I ever dare to talk about this stuff that she would slap the hell out of me for talking about it.

 Thank God I live in Florida and she's in Connecticut because I started laughing which didn't help things at all. ::hysterical::
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Re: One problem today, kids aren't taught respect.
« Reply #31 on: March 23, 2011, 05:57:11 PM »
I spoke to Mom today and told her what we were talking about for a second the phone went dead and then she said that if I ever dare to talk about this stuff that she would slap the hell out of me for talking about it.

 Thank God I live in Florida and she's in Connecticut because I started laughing which didn't help things at all. ::hysterical::

Yep.  "What goes on in THIS HOUSE, stays in THIS HOUSE!!"
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Re: One problem today, kids aren't taught respect.
« Reply #32 on: March 23, 2011, 07:47:47 PM »
I spoke to Mom today and told her what we were talking about for a second the phone went dead and then she said that if I ever dare to talk about this stuff that she would slap the hell out of me for talking about it.

 Thank God I live in Florida and she's in Connecticut because I started laughing which didn't help things at all. ::hysterical::

Yep.  "What goes on in THIS HOUSE, stays in THIS HOUSE!!"

 I told her that nobody know my real name and she said that's ok I know who you are. No comprimise with her at all.
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Re: One problem today, kids aren't taught respect.
« Reply #33 on: March 23, 2011, 08:27:48 PM »
My Dad just had to look at me mean and I'd break down crying.  My brother was unfortunately a trouble maker and had to be spanked on occasion.  When he turned 13 he discovered he was taller than my Dad and when my Dad asked him to take out the garbage, my brother said to him: "I don't have to listen to you or do what you say anymore, I'm bigger than you are." I remember my Dad stood toe to toe with him, they stared at each other for a good long time, and then Dad punched him in the face, really fast and really hard.  When my brother got back on his feet my Dad asked him again to take out the trash, and my brother said, "yes, sir." 'Til the day my Dad died 6 years ago, my brother called him Sir.

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Re: One problem today, kids aren't taught respect.
« Reply #34 on: March 23, 2011, 09:25:03 PM »
I don't recall ever spanking any of my five kids. My oldest (29) tells me that he was afraid of the "Daddy Voice" that I would use on the rarest of occasions when angry at something the kids had done. (Daddy Voice = Screaming like a Madman)

Apparently, that worked for them.
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Re: One problem today, kids aren't taught respect.
« Reply #35 on: March 23, 2011, 09:39:39 PM »
I don't recall ever spanking any of my five kids. My oldest (29) tells me that he was afraid of the "Daddy Voice" that I would use on the rarest of occasions when angry at something the kids had done. (Daddy Voice = Screaming like a Madman)

Apparently, that worked for them.

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Re: One problem today, kids aren't taught respect.
« Reply #36 on: March 23, 2011, 10:18:23 PM »
I don't recall ever spanking any of my five kids. My oldest (29) tells me that he was afraid of the "Daddy Voice" that I would use on the rarest of occasions when angry at something the kids had done. (Daddy Voice = Screaming like a Madman)

Apparently, that worked for them.

I never spanked Random. No once. Never had to.

Sure she would get into trouble now and again, but it was always such a minor thing that I was able to work it out without resorting to corporal punishment.

For the longest time I believe that she truly wanted and sought my respect. Those few times when she really stuck her foot in it I would invariably go quiet.

"Dad" she would venture..."Are you mad?"

"No sweetie"

"Are you irritated?"

"No baby"

"Disappointed?"

"Maybe a little"

And I could see her visibly deflate. She hated my disapproval. And then I would calmly explain what she had done that was wrong, and why it bothered me so. In a world that spun so uncontrollably around us it was all that we needed to keep the peace.


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Re: One problem today, kids aren't taught respect.
« Reply #37 on: March 24, 2011, 06:25:20 PM »
I never spanked Random. No once. Never had to.


Me neither. Four whiny, emotional girls too. Home all day homeschooling.  ;D

Spanking wasn't for me.  Guess they're doing okay... :) adults and kids love 'em.

plus there's always:

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Re: One problem today, kids aren't taught respect.
« Reply #38 on: March 24, 2011, 06:28:23 PM »
Jeez, you guys are makin' me feel bad. I paddled mine up to a certain age.
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Re: One problem today, kids aren't taught respect.
« Reply #39 on: March 24, 2011, 07:03:19 PM »
Jeez, you guys are makin' me feel bad. I paddled mine up to a certain age.
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 Don't feel bad I'm sure you didn't brutalize them. ::smalldeadhorse::
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