Topic: Slime bag numbers guy, predicts Romney win! Provides some hope.

[charlesoakwood]

If Obama wins, I honestly don't know what to do. It will be over at that point. At that point I honestly think Canada begins to look more attractive. They have a bit more historical baggage with socialism, but they at least seem to have gotten the memo and are trying to move in the right direction. And if I'm to be stuck with the wonders of gubmint medicine, I'd probably rather deal with it in a larger country with only 10% our population.

It seems they still have respect for "the rule of law" which will be lost here.  Will they allow us to keep our tangible assets is a pertinent question.

[Alphabet Soup]

If Obama wins, I honestly don't know what to do. It will be over at that point. At that point I honestly think Canada begins to look more attractive. They have a bit more historical baggage with socialism, but they at least seem to have gotten the memo and are trying to move in the right direction. And if I'm to be stuck with the wonders of gubmint medicine, I'd probably rather deal with it in a larger country with only 10% our population.

One door closes, another one opens.

I ain't going anywhere. This is my country and if they should overwhelm the process and hold onto the reins of power I will simply become the very thing they loathe and fear the most. I'll serve to return the favor by overwhelming every government system that I can.

I'm a poor sport and lousy loser - if I can't get what I want then nobody else gets to have theirs either.

[Glock32]

A reality check from Breitbart's Big Government:

Anyone following the presidential campaign through the prism of media polls is doing themselves a serious disservice. Virtually every one uses a polling sample that is so heavily-skewed towards Democrats that it distorts the actual state of the campaign. Of course, that is a feature, not a bug of the polls. The polls are specifically designed to drive a narrative that Obama is surging and Romney is struggling. Increasingly, though, the polls are having to go to ridiculous efforts to support this meme. Friday's CBS/New York Times poll, for example, uses a D+13 sample of registered voters. This is absurd.

In 2008, an historic election wave for Democrats, the electorate was D+7. In 2004, when George W. Bush won reelection, the electorate was evenly split. In other words, D+0. Repeat after me; the Democrat share of the electorate is not going to double this year. Given the well-noted enthusiasm edge for Republicans this year, the electorate is going to be far closer to the 2004 model than 2008. Any poll trying to replicate the 2008 is going to artificially inflate Obama's support.

CBS does apply a Likely Voter screen to the head-to-head match up. The LV sample is D+6, similar to the make up of the 08 election. In that, Obama leads Romney by just 3 points, 49-46. In the RV sample, which more than doubles the proportion of Democrats to D+13, Obama leads by 8 points, 51-43. See the simple relationship there?

Let's try a simple thought experiment. Imagine if, for a week, all media polls decided to use a sample that replicated the 2004 electorate--a D+0 model. Given the GOP's enthusiasm edge--even the CBS poll found Republicans voters with a double-digit lead on enthusiasm for the election--the electorate is going to look a lot more like 2004 than 2008. Imagine how the narrative of the campaign would change. The CBS poll found Romney beating Obama among Independents by 11 points. With a balanced partisan sample, Romney would likely post consistent leads against Obama.

A week of this and Politico would run out of fuel for its daily "Romney is struggling" theme. Which is why the media will never adjust its samples. This election, it isn't so much about polling as propaganda. The polls are simply a tool being used by the media to try to depress GOP turnout and give a powerful lift to Obama's obviously lackluster campaign.

The polls confirm that the media aren't really biased. Rather, they are active players for the other team.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/09/16/cbs-obama-leads-in-d-13-poll

[Sectionhand]

A reality check from Breitbart's Big Government:

Anyone following the presidential campaign through the prism of media polls is doing themselves a serious disservice. Virtually every one uses a polling sample that is so heavily-skewed towards Democrats that it distorts the actual state of the campaign. Of course, that is a feature, not a bug of the polls. The polls are specifically designed to drive a narrative that Obama is surging and Romney is struggling. Increasingly, though, the polls are having to go to ridiculous efforts to support this meme. Friday's CBS/New York Times poll, for example, uses a D+13 sample of registered voters. This is absurd.

In 2008, an historic election wave for Democrats, the electorate was D+7. In 2004, when George W. Bush won reelection, the electorate was evenly split. In other words, D+0. Repeat after me; the Democrat share of the electorate is not going to double this year. Given the well-noted enthusiasm edge for Republicans this year, the electorate is going to be far closer to the 2004 model than 2008. Any poll trying to replicate the 2008 is going to artificially inflate Obama's support.

CBS does apply a Likely Voter screen to the head-to-head match up. The LV sample is D+6, similar to the make up of the 08 election. In that, Obama leads Romney by just 3 points, 49-46. In the RV sample, which more than doubles the proportion of Democrats to D+13, Obama leads by 8 points, 51-43. See the simple relationship there?

Let's try a simple thought experiment. Imagine if, for a week, all media polls decided to use a sample that replicated the 2004 electorate--a D+0 model. Given the GOP's enthusiasm edge--even the CBS poll found Republicans voters with a double-digit lead on enthusiasm for the election--the electorate is going to look a lot more like 2004 than 2008. Imagine how the narrative of the campaign would change. The CBS poll found Romney beating Obama among Independents by 11 points. With a balanced partisan sample, Romney would likely post consistent leads against Obama.

A week of this and Politico would run out of fuel for its daily "Romney is struggling" theme. Which is why the media will never adjust its samples. This election, it isn't so much about polling as propaganda. The polls are simply a tool being used by the media to try to depress GOP turnout and give a powerful lift to Obama's obviously lackluster campaign.

The polls confirm that the media aren't really biased. Rather, they are active players for the other team.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/09/16/cbs-obama-leads-in-d-13-poll

This is the Democrat method of "vote suppression" . They want the numbers to look so daunting that likely Romney voters will view showing up at the polls to be pointless .

[Alphabet Soup]

This is the Democrat method of "vote suppression" . They want the numbers to look so daunting that likely Romney voters will view showing up at the polls to be pointless .

Stupid strategy. All this does is makes me more committed to crushing them. I still don't like Romney but I'm more determined than ever to get that evil bastard out of our house!

[AmericanPatriot]

Enthusiasm edge?
I'm hardly enthusiastic.
It's more like knowing I have to go to the dentist but he has no novacaine.

Article on Red State today talks about the Romney campaign in disarray and infighting.

Leave it to the Republicans to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory

[Libertas]

Enthusiasm edge?
I'm hardly enthusiastic.
It's more like knowing I have to go to the dentist but he has no novacaine.

Article on Red State today talks about the Romney campaign in disarray and infighting.

Leave it to the Republicans to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory

I think that originated at Politico, seemed a bit disinformational to me, more of the voter suppression desires of the MFM...Obama can only win if the opponent is torn down.

[charlesoakwood]

Agreed.  I'm so suppressed I ask every liberal/middle person whether
Romney will win as big or bigger than Reagan, I'm just not sure which
it will be.

[Pandora]

Enthusiasm edge?
I'm hardly enthusiastic.
It's more like knowing I have to go to the dentist but he has no novacaine.

Article on Red State today talks about the Romney campaign in disarray and infighting.

Leave it to the Republicans to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory

I think that originated at Politico, seemed a bit disinformational to me, more of the voter suppression desires of the MFM...Obama can only win if the opponent is torn down.

I agree.

One thing I'm relatively comfortable with is the idea that Romney is, above all, a successful business manager and, as such, disarray and infighting seem highly unlikely.

[Pandora]

Demoralized as Hell, The poll the media isn’t talking about edition

"For the last two weeks we have been treated to the narrative that Barack Obama is surging at the polls, Mitt Romney is in trouble and unless there is a massive change in direction it is all over.

Simply put this is a lie.

Of all the polls you have seen, there is one poll that has gotten no attention, it is a poll that has been taken monthly, it is a poll that Doug Ross spotted and promoted on his site. It is the Rasmussen Poll of party identification.

They have party identification results online dating back to 2004. Here are the 2012 numbers through August .... "

Charts, charts and more charts .... and then ..

" ..... All of the figures I’ve cited are from a source publicly available. The Media know these figures, the left knows these figures and the Networks know these figures.

Yet they are still using polls with huge democrat samples and representing them as real.

I don’t know what that tells you but I sure know what it tells me

“Ride right through them, they’re demoralized as hell”!"

Read it all.

[Predator Don]

I can't remember a republican election where there wasn't a "disarray" story. Usually pushed the hardest when the dems are in disarray...like voting down God and Israel.

[Libertas]

Demoralized as Hell, The poll the media isn’t talking about edition

"For the last two weeks we have been treated to the narrative that Barack Obama is surging at the polls, Mitt Romney is in trouble and unless there is a massive change in direction it is all over.

Simply put this is a lie.

Of all the polls you have seen, there is one poll that has gotten no attention, it is a poll that has been taken monthly, it is a poll that Doug Ross spotted and promoted on his site. It is the Rasmussen Poll of party identification.

They have party identification results online dating back to 2004. Here are the 2012 numbers through August .... "

Charts, charts and more charts .... and then ..

" ..... All of the figures I’ve cited are from a source publicly available. The Media know these figures, the left knows these figures and the Networks know these figures.

Yet they are still using polls with huge democrat samples and representing them as real.

I don’t know what that tells you but I sure know what it tells me

“Ride right through them, they’re demoralized as hell”!"

Read it all.

I like numbers and these numbers tell me that more important than the modest increase in Rep is the more significant drop in Dem, the numbers are more favorable than W had, and all things being equal Romney is probably politically more on par with a W than a J-Mac and Obama has proven to be more of a bust than his stealth/historic first campaign...ominous signs for Duh One&Done Wun.

Now is the time to start sticking knives in and finish the beast off, beasts always get frantic when cornered and the end is in sight, all they have his more baseless attacks, lies and hysterical rantings...well humored and target specific barbs should be sunk deep, hard and often.

 

[Pandora]

... these numbers tell me that more important than the modest increase in Rep is the more significant drop in Dem ..

Unless we get a handle on immigration, both legal and illegal, the demographics shift will put a permanent end to that, Libertas.

[charlesoakwood]

Let's get him elected before we start stabbing him.

[Pandora]

Stabbing who?  Did anybody say anything like that about Romney?

[Libertas]

... these numbers tell me that more important than the modest increase in Rep is the more significant drop in Dem ..

Unless we get a handle on immigration, both legal and illegal, the demographics shift will put a permanent end to that, Libertas.

Aye. And immigration legal and illegal is not being discussed much.  Fine, after the election the debate (and more importantly ACTION) must be enjoined!

[John Florida]

  If the odds were 99 to 1 against Romney I would still be there to vote against that SOB.

[Libertas]

Flush Obama.  The next turd can't be that bad...