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Straightening out crooked polls
« on: September 24, 2012, 08:31:11 AM »
First read this -

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/09/23/skewed-and-unskewed-polls/

Then check out this -

http://www.unskewedpolls.com/

If this accurately takes out the spin and jokers then O'Bongo is truly in deep chit.

But...

Isn't about time for the MFM to beat the "It will all come down to the debates" meme?  I'm sure the Deomcrat-Media Complex is eager to proclaim Obama to clear winner, I bet the boilerplate is 99.9% written already, they just have to sprinkle in a few references to make like they actually observed the thing!

We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.

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Re: Straightening out crooked polls
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2012, 08:42:50 AM »
Oh, but it's better than that...


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Overall, Obama leads Romney by just 3 points on the ballot (50 percent to 47 percent) – which before we rounded up, is actually a 2.6 point lead and only up a half-a-percentage point from the 2.1 point lead for Obama in our last Battleground poll in early August.  In our latest POLITICO-George Washington University Battleground Poll with middle-class families, which comprise about 54 percent of the total American electorate and usually split in their vote behavior between Republicans and Democrats, Romney holds a 14-point advantage (55 percent to 41 percent).  Middle-class families are more inclined to believe the country is on the wrong track (34 percent right direction, 62 percent wrong track), are more likely to hold an unfavorable view of Obama (48 percent favorable, 51 percent unfavorable), and hold a more favorable view of Romney (51 percent favorable, 44 percent unfavorable) and Paul Ryan (46 percent favorable, 35 percent unfavorable) than the overall electorate.  These middle-class families also hold a majority disapproval rating on the job Obama is doing as president (45 percent approve, 54 percent disapprove), and turn even more negative toward  Obama on specific areas; the economy 56 percent disapprove; spending 61 percent disapprove; taxes, 53 percent disapprove; Medicare 48 percent disapprove; and even foreign policy 50 percent disapprove.

All of this data make clear that Romney has won the strong support of middle-class families and is leading the president on an overwhelming majority of key measurements beyond just the ballot.  In fact, when respondents were asked who, Obama or Romney, would best handle a variety of issues, Romney led on all but one including the economy (+9 percent), foreign policy (+3 percent), spending (+15 percent), taxes (+7 percent), Medicare (+2 percent), and jobs (+10 percent).  Ironically, the one measurement Obama led Romney on was “standing up for the middle class” (+8 Obama), reinforcing that often the Democrats win the message war with the middle class, but not their hearts and souls.

Looking at this presidential election overall, intensity among voters is high with Republicans, Democrats, and now independents, and is at levels more comparable with the final days of a presidential election than six weeks out from Election Day.  In fact, fully 80 percent of voters now say that they are extremely likely to vote.  Even with the past few weeks containing some of the toughest days of earned media for the Romney campaign, and perhaps as a surprise to Washington insiders, Romney continues to win Republicans (Romney by a net +87 percent) by the same margin Obama is winning with Democrats (Obama by a net +88 percent), and is still winning with independents (+2 percent).  Romney has majority support with voters over the age of 45 (+7 percent), with men (+6 percent), with white women (+9 percent), and with married voters (+14 percent).  In addition, Romney has solidified his base.  Support among conservative voters exceeds 70 percent (73 percent), his support among very conservative voters exceeds 80 percent (83 percent), and his support among Republicans exceeds 90 percent (91 percent).  Romney is also receiving a higher level of support among Hispanics (40 percent), which is driven by higher support from Hispanic men.
   


Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81584.html#ixzz27OVZosyA

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Re: Straightening out crooked polls
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2012, 08:46:36 AM »
It has to be killing them to admit this.

Politico or Obama?   ::hysterical::

Either way, I hope they feel it!   ::evilbat::

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Re: Straightening out crooked polls
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2012, 04:42:01 PM »
An interesting perspective borne out by discussions with lefties is that a significant number who acknowledge that they will vote for Øbozo don't actually like Øbozo - they are party partisans who don't care who is piloting the boat as long as it is a dhimmicrat..

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Re: Straightening out crooked polls
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2012, 09:33:23 PM »
An interesting perspective borne out by discussions with lefties is that a significant number who acknowledge that they will vote for Øbozo don't actually like Øbozo - they are party partisans who don't care who is piloting the boat as long as it is a dhimmicrat..

But they like what he intends for whom they consider enemies.  It doesn't matter to them if they benefit or not -- and I think they know they won't -- as long as "the other" suffers.
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Re: Straightening out crooked polls
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2012, 10:19:03 PM »
An interesting perspective borne out by discussions with lefties is that a significant number who acknowledge that they will vote for Øbozo don't actually like Øbozo - they are party partisans who don't care who is piloting the boat as long as it is a dhimmicrat..

But they like what he intends for whom they consider enemies.  It doesn't matter to them if they benefit or not -- and I think they know they won't -- as long as "the other" suffers.

Exactly...but then remember that when we talk of the left we're talking about arrested mental development.

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Re: Straightening out crooked polls
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2012, 10:47:29 PM »
What they intend is to create slaves of the producers, hiring government to be the overseer.  There is an article, I think at PJ Media, that had the most pithy description I've seen: "the people who vote for a living".
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