Author Topic: QE3: finally a reality  (Read 1690 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Glock32

  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 8747
  • Get some!
QE3: finally a reality
« on: September 13, 2012, 07:40:06 PM »
We all knew it was coming, of course. The timing is hardly unexpected either. I am sure much will be made of the initial bump in the stock market, despite it being a false indicator. I suppose it's ultimately a good thing. Anything that brings about the inevitable collapse sooner is probably a good thing.
"The Fourth Estate is less honorable than the First Profession."

- Yours Truly

charlesoakwood

  • Guest
Re: QE3: finally a reality
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2012, 08:00:18 PM »

That reminds me I need to check and see
what year, month and day gold peeked
last time.


charlesoakwood

  • Guest
Re: QE3: finally a reality
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2012, 08:18:41 PM »

Offline Libertas

  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 64056
  • Alea iacta est! Libertatem aut mori!
Re: QE3: finally a reality
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2012, 01:49:21 PM »
Mission Objective: Epic Failure

Mission Status: In Progress...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-09-27/guest-post-why-qe-wont-create-inflation-quite-expected

Just a little closer to implosion...

We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.

Offline Weisshaupt

  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 5733
Re: QE3: finally a reality
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2012, 02:15:54 PM »
Mission Objective: Epic Failure

Mission Status: In Progress...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-09-27/guest-post-why-qe-wont-create-inflation-quite-expected

Just a little closer to implosion...



Quote
Add all this up and here's what we get: money is not just being created by the Fed, it's being destroyed by declines in asset valuations and writedowns of impaired debt. Credit may be expanding but the top rung of households is paying down debt, not borrowing more, and the bottom 95% are unable to add much to their already staggering debt load.

Incomes are declining, providing a smaller base for both spending and borrowing. The top 5% may be experiencing a "wealth effect" as stocks soar but 7 million people cannot levitate the entire $15 trillion U.S. economy much while the incomes of the 137 million other workers are stagnant or down.

Money velocity is plummeting and banks are hoarding Treasuries as much-needed collateral.

It's difficult to see how these forces could generate inflation. There may be new money and credit being created, but very little of it is flowing to households whose spending in the real economy drives inflation.

I think this analysis is mostly correct. Its a function of money supply AND the number of goods being chased.  Right now the printing just goes to feed the balance sheets and make it look like banks are solvent. They don't act as if they actually had the money - they don't loan it out etc.  The Crash has effectively already happened. The money that IS getting into the economy is coming as entitlements. Another 1 Trillion plus added every year. That is where inflation is coming from - SS, Medicaid, welfare, free Obama phones, and soon Obamacare.  Print , loan and spend. I  expect a massive bailout of public pensions during Obama  lame duck months ( assuming they are lame duck)  and that will add trillions more which will then trickle out as people get their pension checks. He may also try to push through his "infrastructure bank" which I am willing to bet will be backed with IRAs and 401Ks confiscated to fund it. And if he can't get it passed, he will just declare an emergency and do it anyway  by fiat.  The more I look at it, the more I think the sheeple are too stupid to understand what is happening, hence there will be no panic.  That article said the top 5% are paying down debt - hunkering down, and getting ready for the worst.  As Money velocity approaches zero you get an effective depression and deflation, which the fed is trying to counter with smoke and mirrors. The reality is still going to be falling production, layoffs, unemployment, shortages and economic depression, without the effect of saved money being able to buy more.  Eventually everyone will have an EBT - and they will just start using it to print money - and that is when real inflation will start to ramp.  And don't think Romney will save you from that future. He is as willing to buy votes with free stuff as any other democrat






Offline Libertas

  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 64056
  • Alea iacta est! Libertatem aut mori!
Re: QE3: finally a reality
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2012, 02:50:27 PM »
Read that too, and I agree.  We are whistling past the graveyard, the piper will be paid...and when the confiscation starts so will the riots...enter cascade scenario.
We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.

Offline AlanS

  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 7908
  • Proud Infidel
Re: QE3: finally a reality
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2012, 08:14:40 PM »
Hope everyone is stocked up on ammo.
"Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem."

Thomas Jefferson

Offline Glock32

  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 8747
  • Get some!
Re: QE3: finally a reality
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2012, 08:33:44 PM »
The currency of the new millennium.
"The Fourth Estate is less honorable than the First Profession."

- Yours Truly

Offline Libertas

  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 64056
  • Alea iacta est! Libertatem aut mori!
Re: QE3: finally a reality
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2012, 11:31:54 AM »
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!
We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.

charlesoakwood

  • Guest
Re: QE3: finally a reality
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2012, 12:14:56 AM »

On a lighter note fuel prices continue to go down
I estimate around October 3, to be the bottom.

Offline Libertas

  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 64056
  • Alea iacta est! Libertatem aut mori!
Re: QE3: finally a reality
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2012, 07:08:25 AM »
I'm sure Iran will help change that dynamic.
We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.

charlesoakwood

  • Guest
Re: QE3: finally a reality
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2012, 10:45:18 PM »

On a lighter note fuel prices continue to go down
I estimate around October 3, to be the bottom.


Oil perfectly round-tripped its plunge from yesterday (ending back above $91.50)

 http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-10-04/oil-stocks-win-bonds-usd-aapl-lose

Offline Libertas

  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 64056
  • Alea iacta est! Libertatem aut mori!
Re: QE3: finally a reality
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2012, 06:42:00 AM »
Dollar destruction at work.

Duh Wun, Helicopter Ben, Turbo Timmy...

                                                        ::asskicking::
                                    ::asskicking::
                  ::asskicking::
We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.