Topic: Power to strip search passengers claimed by Feds

[Libertas]

I keep waiting for the tipping point...



The capacity of people in this nation to willingly give up their liberty time after time...frightens and angers me!

[Sectionhand]

Is that with or without a Wasserman Test ?

[Libertas]

Heh.

Stay tuned SH!

 

[LadyVirginia]

I keep waiting for the tipping point...



The capacity of people in this nation to willingly give up their liberty time after time...frightens and angers me!

I can't tell you how many arguments I've had with family over this issue.  My husband thinks the searches are reasonable!  He's not willing to give up flying though. (It amazes me that he'd be willing to let someone feel up his daughters) When I pointed out that wanting to ride an airplane isn't probable cause he stops talking.  Same thing with my brother.  He went on and on then I told him what I thought and he admitted I had a point. But he too sees no other choice.  My mother is convinced it's only because I don't want anyone touching me so she loves to tell me how the TSA agents she's had are sooo nice to her (she has an implanted med device and must avoid x-rays) and she doesn't have a problem with them (as apparently I do and I should just get over it). She can't address the freedom aspects. 

[Glock32]

The capacity of people in this nation to willingly give up their liberty time after time...frightens and angers me!

This is why the default condition of man is tyranny. What was it that Franklin said - "A republic ma'am, if you can keep it."

I think part of our problem is that this country has just become too damn big. Too many people, too different in their expectations. We don't have an informed citizenry so much as a barnyard of humanity. To borrow a reference from the movie Idiocracy, they don't care about the destruction of our civil society as long as "Oww My Balls!" is still on TV.

[LadyVirginia]

I think part of our problem is that this country has just become too damn big. Too many people, too different in their expectations. We don't have an informed citizenry so much as a barnyard of humanity.

Yes, I often think this too. Way too easy for people to melt into their own self absorbed world and concentrate on themselves and their "needs".

[Libertas]

"barnyard of humanity"

Heh, gotta remember that one!

Way past time we clean the barn out! 

A good culling is needed in the worst way!

 

[Dan]

Loved the "barnyard.." description as well.

And this sort of thing is waaaay out of hand. Combine this w/ tha ruling last year that a tracking device can be placed on  a car w/ no warrant b/c anybody could walk across your property any way, so cops don't need a warrant. Next thing, they'll be peeking in our windows and telling us we don't have to drive anywhere.