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Re: Finally!!
« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2012, 12:50:56 PM »
For ease of mag loading, proceed to your favorite retailer and get thyself one of these: http://www.maglula.com/PistolMagLoaders.aspx

There's lots of demo videos on YouTube.  I have one, it's great.

I ordered one up on your recommendation. Arthritis is starting to catch up with me and makes loading .40 & .45 a challenge at times - especially in the cold.

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Re: Finally!!
« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2012, 01:58:33 PM »
Cool, you will not be disappointed.  They're better than the mag loaders that a lot of guns come with, because you don't have to lift it back up for the next round.  Once you get the hang of it you can load mags as quickly as you can shove a new round in.
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Re: Finally!!
« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2012, 02:51:14 PM »
I have a Bersa and yes, the last bullet is hard to load. I like it to carry but the lest few times I've shot I've had a jam.

Really?  Mfg rounds or self-loaded?


Mfg rounds. American Eagle. I use them to practice. I carry a different round but for the life of me can't think of its name.
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Re: Finally!!
« Reply #23 on: October 24, 2012, 07:01:05 AM »
I have a Bersa and yes, the last bullet is hard to load. I like it to carry but the lest few times I've shot I've had a jam.

Really?  Mfg rounds or self-loaded?


Mfg rounds. American Eagle. I use them to practice. I carry a different round but for the life of me can't think of its name.

Not a big fan of AE, I like using Win FMJ at the range with most my guns, have not had any issues with it with the Bersa.  It's probably not a bad thing that gals like the Bersa, unlike the lighter "pocket-pistols" the Bersa's weight and handle design help create a better grip and less looseness that can sometimes cause feed errors.

ETA - I like Hornady Critical Defense rounds for carry.
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Re: Finally!!
« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2012, 01:36:46 PM »
I have a Bersa and yes, the last bullet is hard to load. I like it to carry but the lest few times I've shot I've had a jam.

Really?  Mfg rounds or self-loaded?


Mfg rounds. American Eagle. I use them to practice. I carry a different round but for the life of me can't think of its name.

Not a big fan of AE, I like using Win FMJ at the range with most my guns, have not had any issues with it with the Bersa.  It's probably not a bad thing that gals like the Bersa, unlike the lighter "pocket-pistols" the Bersa's weight and handle design help create a better grip and less looseness that can sometimes cause feed errors.

ETA - I like Hornady Critical Defense rounds for carry.

That may be the round I use when carrying. I know this, the AE bullet makes a small hole in a piece of plywood....The other round makes a large hole.
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Re: Finally!!
« Reply #25 on: October 24, 2012, 03:12:12 PM »
I have a Bersa and yes, the last bullet is hard to load. I like it to carry but the lest few times I've shot I've had a jam.

Really?  Mfg rounds or self-loaded?


Mfg rounds. American Eagle. I use them to practice. I carry a different round but for the life of me can't think of its name.

Not a big fan of AE, I like using Win FMJ at the range with most my guns, have not had any issues with it with the Bersa.  It's probably not a bad thing that gals like the Bersa, unlike the lighter "pocket-pistols" the Bersa's weight and handle design help create a better grip and less looseness that can sometimes cause feed errors.

ETA - I like Hornady Critical Defense rounds for carry.

  How does a better grip cause feed errors?Not being a smart ass.
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Re: Finally!!
« Reply #26 on: October 24, 2012, 05:02:52 PM »
I have a Bersa and yes, the last bullet is hard to load. I like it to carry but the lest few times I've shot I've had a jam.

Really?  Mfg rounds or self-loaded?


Mfg rounds. American Eagle. I use them to practice. I carry a different round but for the life of me can't think of its name.

Not a big fan of AE, I like using Win FMJ at the range with most my guns, have not had any issues with it with the Bersa.  It's probably not a bad thing that gals like the Bersa, unlike the lighter "pocket-pistols" the Bersa's weight and handle design help create a better grip and less looseness that can sometimes cause feed errors.

ETA - I like Hornady Critical Defense rounds for carry.

  How does a better grip cause feed errors?Not being a smart ass.

A better grip doesn't cause feed errors, it helps avoid them.  A firmer grip -- and a stiffer wrist -- allows the slide to work properly to fire the round and eject the spent brass.

I was having trouble with my first .45 jamming at the range and the chickie behind the counter accused me of "limp-wristing it".  Turns out the ejector part itself was faulty.
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Re: Finally!!
« Reply #27 on: October 24, 2012, 05:29:44 PM »
I have a Bersa and yes, the last bullet is hard to load. I like it to carry but the lest few times I've shot I've had a jam.

Really?  Mfg rounds or self-loaded?


Mfg rounds. American Eagle. I use them to practice. I carry a different round but for the life of me can't think of its name.

Not a big fan of AE, I like using Win FMJ at the range with most my guns, have not had any issues with it with the Bersa.  It's probably not a bad thing that gals like the Bersa, unlike the lighter "pocket-pistols" the Bersa's weight and handle design help create a better grip and less looseness that can sometimes cause feed errors.

ETA - I like Hornady Critical Defense rounds for carry.

  How does a better grip cause feed errors?Not being a smart ass.

A better grip doesn't cause feed errors, it helps avoid them.  A firmer grip -- and a stiffer wrist -- allows the slide to work properly to fire the round and eject the spent brass.

I was having trouble with my first .45 jamming at the range and the chickie behind the counter accused me of "limp-wristing it".  Turns out the ejector part itself was faulty.


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Re: Finally!!
« Reply #28 on: October 24, 2012, 05:34:24 PM »
For some reason .45 seems more inclined to LW misfires. I've never encountered it with .22, .380, .40 or 9mm. Even my little "pocket rocket" .40 that kicks like a mule never misfires (knock on wood).

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Re: Finally!!
« Reply #29 on: October 24, 2012, 06:37:30 PM »
For some reason .45 seems more inclined to LW misfires. I've never encountered it with .22, .380, .40 or 9mm. Even my little "pocket rocket" .40 that kicks like a mule never misfires (knock on wood).

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Re: Finally!!
« Reply #30 on: October 24, 2012, 08:03:57 PM »
For some reason .45 seems more inclined to LW misfires. I've never encountered it with .22, .380, .40 or 9mm. Even my little "pocket rocket" .40 that kicks like a mule never misfires (knock on wood).

  What kind is it?Or better yet what brand.

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Re: Finally!!
« Reply #31 on: October 24, 2012, 10:11:15 PM »

Be sweet if they made a Mustang in a .40.

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Re: Finally!!
« Reply #32 on: October 25, 2012, 07:09:10 AM »
I have a Bersa and yes, the last bullet is hard to load. I like it to carry but the lest few times I've shot I've had a jam.

Really?  Mfg rounds or self-loaded?


Mfg rounds. American Eagle. I use them to practice. I carry a different round but for the life of me can't think of its name.

Not a big fan of AE, I like using Win FMJ at the range with most my guns, have not had any issues with it with the Bersa.  It's probably not a bad thing that gals like the Bersa, unlike the lighter "pocket-pistols" the Bersa's weight and handle design help create a better grip and less looseness that can sometimes cause feed errors.

ETA - I like Hornady Critical Defense rounds for carry.

  How does a better grip cause feed errors?Not being a smart ass.

A better grip doesn't cause feed errors, it helps avoid them.  A firmer grip -- and a stiffer wrist -- allows the slide to work properly to fire the round and eject the spent brass.
I was having trouble with my first .45 jamming at the range and the chickie behind the counter accused me of "limp-wristing it".  Turns out the ejector part itself was faulty.

 ::thumbsup::

And I would qulaify that too be more common with the lighter/composite pistols.  Nice to see your wrists are strong Pan, did ya give the chickie behind the counter the look?   ;D
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Re: Finally!!
« Reply #33 on: October 25, 2012, 07:12:53 AM »
For some reason .45 seems more inclined to LW misfires. I've never encountered it with .22, .380, .40 or 9mm. Even my little "pocket rocket" .40 that kicks like a mule never misfires (knock on wood).

  What kind is it?Or better yet what brand.

Colt Commander

Huh, wonder what is so different about that Colt?   ::whatgives::
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Re: Finally!!
« Reply #34 on: October 25, 2012, 07:40:51 AM »
I have a Bersa and yes, the last bullet is hard to load. I like it to carry but the lest few times I've shot I've had a jam.

Really?  Mfg rounds or self-loaded?


Mfg rounds. American Eagle. I use them to practice. I carry a different round but for the life of me can't think of its name.

Not a big fan of AE, I like using Win FMJ at the range with most my guns, have not had any issues with it with the Bersa.  It's probably not a bad thing that gals like the Bersa, unlike the lighter "pocket-pistols" the Bersa's weight and handle design help create a better grip and less looseness that can sometimes cause feed errors.

ETA - I like Hornady Critical Defense rounds for carry.

  How does a better grip cause feed errors?Not being a smart ass.

A better grip doesn't cause feed errors, it helps avoid them.  A firmer grip -- and a stiffer wrist -- allows the slide to work properly to fire the round and eject the spent brass.
I was having trouble with my first .45 jamming at the range and the chickie behind the counter accused me of "limp-wristing it".  Turns out the ejector part itself was faulty.

 ::thumbsup::

And I would qulaify that too be more common with the lighter/composite pistols.  Nice to see your wrists are strong Pan, did ya give the chickie behind the counter the look?   ;D

 ::curtsy4::

As for "the look", no; not at the time.  I was a new shooter, the Springfield .45 was my first handgun (I went right for the big-girl gun, heh), so for all I knew, she was right.  Another instructor took the gun onto the range, though, and it jammed on him, too.  Later, when we got home, Gunsmith disassembled it and found the faulty extractor.

THEN I wanted to smack her for announcing to everybody in the place that I was a wuss.
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Re: Finally!!
« Reply #35 on: October 25, 2012, 07:59:49 AM »
I have a Bersa and yes, the last bullet is hard to load. I like it to carry but the lest few times I've shot I've had a jam.

Really?  Mfg rounds or self-loaded?


Mfg rounds. American Eagle. I use them to practice. I carry a different round but for the life of me can't think of its name.

Not a big fan of AE, I like using Win FMJ at the range with most my guns, have not had any issues with it with the Bersa.  It's probably not a bad thing that gals like the Bersa, unlike the lighter "pocket-pistols" the Bersa's weight and handle design help create a better grip and less looseness that can sometimes cause feed errors.

ETA - I like Hornady Critical Defense rounds for carry.

  How does a better grip cause feed errors?Not being a smart ass.

A better grip doesn't cause feed errors, it helps avoid them.  A firmer grip -- and a stiffer wrist -- allows the slide to work properly to fire the round and eject the spent brass.
I was having trouble with my first .45 jamming at the range and the chickie behind the counter accused me of "limp-wristing it".  Turns out the ejector part itself was faulty.

 ::thumbsup::

And I would qulaify that too be more common with the lighter/composite pistols.  Nice to see your wrists are strong Pan, did ya give the chickie behind the counter the look?   ;D

 ::curtsy4::

As for "the look", no; not at the time.  I was a new shooter, the Springfield .45 was my first handgun (I went right for the big-girl gun, heh), so for all I knew, she was right.  Another instructor took the gun onto the range, though, and it jammed on him, too.  Later, when we got home, Gunsmith disassembled it and found the faulty extractor.

THEN I wanted to smack her for announcing to everybody in the place that I was a wuss.

Heh, but a happy ending and you are not a wuss, not by far!     ::thumbsup::
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Re: Finally!!
« Reply #36 on: October 25, 2012, 08:57:54 AM »
For some reason .45 seems more inclined to LW misfires. I've never encountered it with .22, .380, .40 or 9mm. Even my little "pocket rocket" .40 that kicks like a mule never misfires (knock on wood).

  What kind is it?Or better yet what brand.

Colt Commander

Huh, wonder what is so different about that Colt?   ::whatgives::
For some reason .45 seems more inclined to LW misfires. I've never encountered it with .22, .380, .40 or 9mm. Even my little "pocket rocket" .40 that kicks like a mule never misfires (knock on wood).

  What kind is it?Or better yet what brand.

Colt Commander

Huh, wonder what is so different about that Colt?   ::whatgives::

Dunno.

I tend to push everything I own - +P or custom rounds. Right out of the chute the Commander was disappointing in accuracy. Note that for most of my carry life my weapon of choice was a 4" S&W .357 which was extremely accurate. A wheel gun like that is a fair chunk of metal and requires a decent grip, but is still (by virtue of the engineering principles) a lot more forgiving than the semi-auto loader.

That's when I read about limp-wristing and took a more conscious attention to my grip. The Commander still isn't as accurate as I'd like but it is serviceable.

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Re: Finally!!
« Reply #37 on: October 25, 2012, 10:49:49 AM »
Congrats, JF. Now I need to work on my spouse. 22 yrs and not much progress.... ::bashing::
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Re: Finally!!
« Reply #38 on: October 25, 2012, 11:34:20 AM »
For some reason .45 seems more inclined to LW misfires. I've never encountered it with .22, .380, .40 or 9mm. Even my little "pocket rocket" .40 that kicks like a mule never misfires (knock on wood).

  What kind is it?Or better yet what brand.

Colt Commander

Huh, wonder what is so different about that Colt?   ::whatgives::
For some reason .45 seems more inclined to LW misfires. I've never encountered it with .22, .380, .40 or 9mm. Even my little "pocket rocket" .40 that kicks like a mule never misfires (knock on wood).

  What kind is it?Or better yet what brand.

Colt Commander

Huh, wonder what is so different about that Colt?   ::whatgives::

Dunno.

I tend to push everything I own - +P or custom rounds. Right out of the chute the Commander was disappointing in accuracy. Note that for most of my carry life my weapon of choice was a 4" S&W .357 which was extremely accurate. A wheel gun like that is a fair chunk of metal and requires a decent grip, but is still (by virtue of the engineering principles) a lot more forgiving than the semi-auto loader.

That's when I read about limp-wristing and took a more conscious attention to my grip. The Commander still isn't as accurate as I'd like but it is serviceable.

I hear ya on the wheel guns, simple and proven over a long time, durable and reliable.  Still love shooting them and like to carry one now and then.  The more moving parts and styles/designs for semi-auto's can create as many issues as benefits from person to person.  No matter the weapon I have to have something that fits the hand well, and by well I don't necessarily mean comfortable, I just need to feel I have control of the thing.  My brother has a slim Taurus .40, first time he shot it he sliced his hand on the slide recoil, I knew it was going to happen, didn't say anything, it's one of those badges you earn and learn from.  I can shoot that thing without hurting myself and be accurate, but I don't like it because I don't like anything I can't wrap all 4 fingers around, or at least 3 digits.  And the models that have every safety in the world bug me.  I also favor S/A:D/A, I hate having to choose between one or the other.  We'll see how I like striker-fired once I pick up a Glock, got my eyes on a 21.
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Re: Finally!!
« Reply #39 on: October 25, 2012, 05:00:12 PM »
The Glock trigger takes some getting used to if you are accustomed to more traditional trigger action.  But I came to appreciate it, particularly its consistent feel on every shot.  It's like DAO but without the long and heavy pull.  I also like DA/SA style, and I am with Libertas on the subject of safeties. I am a firm believer in the concept that the only "safety" is the one between your ears.  To me a safe design means a gun that absolutely will not discharge unless the trigger is fully pulled in a deliberate manner, and if those conditions are met it will not not discharge.

Some people prefer manual safety levers, and that's understandable. Personally I can do without.
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