Topic: a frivolous, shallow, amoral, unserious, spoiled rotten people

[Glock32]

Mark Steyn has a typically astute observation of this disaster here: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/332836/live-free-or-die-mark-steyn

But it was one comment in particular that I found particularly accurate:

A play-it-safe don’t-frighten-the-horses strategy may have had a certain logic, but it’s unworthy of the times.

They could have frightened the horses all they wanted and Obama still would have won.

Like astronauts who lose muscle and bone mass when they spend too much time in null gravity, we’ve had it too good since the end of WWII, and it’s ruined us. Beginning with the Boomers, we’ve been so damned spoiled that it’s rotted our souls. Why vote for the Accountants In The Green Visors when you can vote for NEVERLAND!

We’re getting exactly what we deserve. We let the Left lie their heads off for 40 years, and we’ve ignored them while they insinuated themselves into the educational, cultural, and political seats of power.

It’s not just that the press lies to us, it’s that we as a populace don’t insist that they tell the truth. It’s not just that the government has gone way beyond the Constitution’s limits, it’s that we haven’t penalized politicians for doing so.

And it’s not just that the Left’s wicked premises about language and history and humanity have poisoned our collective memory and discourse, it’s that we seem to like it—or at least we’re so inured to it that we don’t care. Something funny is trending on Twitter. Gotta go!

We’re a frivolous, shallow, amoral, unserious, spoiled rotten people. Had Romney won, we’d just turn over and go back to sleep while he forestalled the inevitable (or didn’t).

Mr. Franklin, ours is the generation that failed to keep the Republic.

May the next one come during my lifetime.

[Libertas]

People chose free sh*t and certain death...the latter quite naturally follows the former when the well runs dry.  Right now running the well dry is the only way out of this insanity.  Millions may not survive it, but millions will, and some is better than none.

[charlesoakwood]

We’re getting exactly what we deserve. We let the Left lie their heads off for 40 years, and we’ve ignored them while they insinuated themselves into the educational, cultural, and political seats of power.

For forty years or more young skulls of mush have been spoon fed this tripe, every ten years repeated and doubly reinforced by the preceding class, their mentors - today they are the fourth cycle; These ignorant idiots are zealots for what they think is a righteous cause.

No wonder they have respect (or is it love/lust) for the terrorists and the perverse, they are water brothers.

[Glock32]

There also seems to be something about human psychology, a substantial number of humans anyway, that simply craves a king or overlord for whom to grovel. You could see elements of it in the strange obsession so many American women have had with the British Royal Family. They for all intents and purposes lament that we don't have kings and princes here. I think that explains the ease with which the Kennedys occupied that role. 

Lots of my hopes, desires, and assumptions are dying hard. It's true, servitude is the natural condition of Man. Perhaps rather than outrage over what has just transpired, the lesson we should be taking to heart is that it's a miracle it lasted even as long as it did. The Sovereigns of Europe have finally at long last been proven correct and the American Founding Fathers proven wrong. Human beings are little more than barnyard animals lining up at the communal slop trough.

[Libertas]

There also seems to be something about human psychology, a substantial number of humans anyway, that simply craves a king or overlord for whom to grovel. You could see elements of it in the strange obsession so many American women have had with the British Royal Family. They for all intents and purposes lament that we don't have kings and princes here. I think that explains the ease with which the Kennedys occupied that role.  

Lots of my hopes, desires, and assumptions are dying hard. It's true, servitude is the natural condition of Man. Perhaps rather than outrage over what has just transpired, the lesson we should be taking to heart is that it's a miracle it lasted even as long as it did. The Sovereigns of Europe have finally at long last been proven correct and the American Founding Fathers proven wrong. Human beings are little more than barnyard animals lining up at the communal slop trough.

There may be a cold hard truth in this but that statement just doesn't want to rest easy in my conscience.  I know it is not meant as a blanket statement, not all chose to be a barnyard animal, our Founders were not wrong, the people choosing to be a barnyard animals are wrong, the MFM that pushes the noble benfits of being a barnyard animal are wrong and certainly the architects in power that pushed this BS as an ideology to be their vehicle to power are wrong...I, WE are not wrong.

[AmericanPatriot]

Reminds me of the story on how to catch wild pigs

There was a chemistry professor in a large college that had some exchange students in the class. One day while the class was in the lab, the Prof noticed one young man, an exchange student, who kept rubbing his back and stretching as if his back hurt.

The professor asked the young man what was the matter. The student told him he had a bullet lodged in his back. He had been shot while fighting communists in his native country who were trying to overthrow his country's government and install a new communist regime.

In the midst of his story, he looked at the professor and asked a strange question. He asked: "Do you know how to catch wild pigs?"

The professor thought it was a joke and asked for the punch line. The young man said that it was no joke.

"You catch wild pigs by finding a suitable place in the woods and putting corn on the ground. The pigs find it and begin to come everyday to eat the free corn. When they are used to coming every day, you put a fence down one side of the place where they are used to coming.

"When they get used to the fence, they begin to eat the corn again and you put up another side of the fence. They get used to that and start to eat again. You continue until you have all four sides of the fence up with a gate in the last side.

"The pigs, which are used to the free corn, start to come through the gate to eat that free corn again. You then slam the gate on them and catch the whole herd. Suddenly the wild pigs have lost their freedom. They run around and around inside the fence, but they are caught. Soon they go back to eating the free corn They are so used to it that they have forgotten how to forage in the woods for themselves, so they accept their captivity."

The young man then told the professor that is exactly what he sees happening in America . The government keeps pushing us toward Communism/Socialism and keeps spreading the free corn out in the form of programs such as supplemental income, tax credit for unearned income, tax cuts, tax exemptions, tobacco subsidies, dairy subsidies, payments, not to plant crops (CRP), welfare, medicine, drugs, etc. while we continually lose our freedoms, just a little at a time.

One should always remember two truths:
1) There is no such thing as a free lunch
2) and you can never hire someone to provide a service for you cheaper than you can do it yourself.

If you see that all of this wonderful government 'help' is a problem confronting the future of democracy in America , you might want to send this on to your friends.

If you think the free ride is essential to your way of life, then you will probably delete this email.

But God help you when the gate slams shut.

[Glock32]

I agree. I nevertheless have to accept that in practice a substantial number of humans are indeed little more than barnyard animals. That's the tragedy, because they are endowed by their Creator with a soul and free will, and instead have opted for the fleeting, the hedonistic.

The statement "the American Founding Fathers (are) proven wrong" is meant to shock people. It should. I don't think they were wrong about the people who had self-selected to come across an ocean, but when looking at the global population as a whole the cynics are probably closer to the mark. And maybe that's just it, America has become the Old World as a consequence of taming its wildernesses, so it shouldn't be surprising that its population has become very Old World as well.  Is there a New New World anywhere?

[Libertas]

Agree, and I asked that question earlier, on some thread...is there a New America colony that could be established, or a carving out of liberty-minded states we could convince the rest of the nation to let us have.

If so I dibs an elevated watch tower, when the looters run out of hosts to devour in Old America they'll come for us, best we not make the same mistakes twice.

[Alphabet Soup]

I agree. I nevertheless have to accept that in practice a substantial number of humans are indeed little more than barnyard animals. That's the tragedy, because they are endowed by their Creator with a soul and free will, and instead have opted for the fleeting, the hedonistic.

The statement "the American Founding Fathers (are) proven wrong" is meant to shock people. It should. I don't think they were wrong about the people who had self-selected to come across an ocean, but when looking at the global population as a whole the cynics are probably closer to the mark. And maybe that's just it, America has become the Old World as a consequence of taming its wildernesses, so it shouldn't be surprising that its population has become very Old World as well.  Is there a New New World anywhere?

Sorry, no.

Let us resolve that we the people will build an American opportunity society in which all of us--white and black, rich and poor, young and old--will go forward together arm in arm. Again, let us remember that though our heritage is one of blood lines from every corner of the Earth, we are all Americans pledged to carry on this last, best hope of man on Earth. - Ronald Reagan

[Glock32]

That's one of the big differences between us and them. We would be more than happy to let them declare independence, or even semi-independence, and pursue their pet theories. They on the other hand won't be so generous toward us, because liberalism is a totalitarian dogma. It must be an all encompassing and holistic explanation for everything, and will not tolerate the existence of competing ideas.

Frankly I would be willing to go to any rotten patch of land where we could be truly independent. Even Antarctica. It may be a frozen wasteland, but the seas around it are very rich.

I suspect we are going to see more of these city-states popping up around the world, like the one currently being built in Honduras.

[Libertas]

So...

'Soup saying we go down with the ship?

Well, I gotta say there may be a time and a place for a last stand, would be nice if that stand was with more like-minded peoples...

So I'll take whatever scrap of land too G, anywhere where I am not intellectually, emotionally, spiritually and physically molested by statist asshats and their drones!

[Alphabet Soup]

So...

'Soup saying we go down with the ship?

Hardly.

"It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace – but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"

- Patrick Henry

[LadyVirginia]

appealing to their "better" side or offering something to aspire to doesn't work

why should it?

we have "poor" people who own more than my family ever did when I grew up.

 

[Glock32]

There are "poor" people on government benefits who have more purchasing power than people making $60,000 per year.  I read this in a study a few years ago.  When you factor in all the taxes paid by the household earning $60k, and you factor in all the benefits that offset expenses like food, rent, utilities for people below the poverty line, the latter can actually have more leftover purchasing power than the former.

[LadyVirginia]

There are "poor" people on government benefits who have more purchasing power than people making $60,000 per year.  I read this in a study a few years ago.  When you factor in all the taxes paid by the household earning $60k, and you factor in all the benefits that offset expenses like food, rent, utilities for people below the poverty line, the latter can actually have more leftover purchasing power than the former.

yeah, I think I saw something like that too

sickening

because it's not "fair" someone doesn't have a cell phone, a laptop, etc etc etc

[warpmine]

There are "poor" people on government benefits who have more purchasing power than people making $60,000 per year.  I read this in a study a few years ago.  When you factor in all the taxes paid by the household earning $60k, and you factor in all the benefits that offset expenses like food, rent, utilities for people below the poverty line, the latter can actually have more leftover purchasing power than the former.

yeah, I think I saw something like that too

sickening

because it's not "fair" someone doesn't have a cell phone, a laptop, etc etc etc

...or high speed internet or cable/satellite tv.....

[Libertas]

So...

'Soup saying we go down with the ship?

Hardly.

"It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace – but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"

- Patrick Henry

Open defiance to the last breath, that I can get behind!