Topic: What To Do Next: Location

[Pandora]

Gunsmith is talking Texas.

[IronDioPriest]

Gunsmith is talking Texas.

My daughter and son-in-law are talking the same thing.

[Pandora]

Gunsmith is talking Texas.

My daughter and son-in-law are talking the same thing.

I have no argument against it (besides the hot and the scorpions/black widows     ).  I read an article the other day about the "new" Southern Coast as a business-booming proposition.  Taken with a grain of salt -- there were no cons in the piece -- it appears they're doing in LA, GA, FLA and TX what's been prohibited on the East and West coasts.  There are steel mills, there's a newly thriving port (I forgot which state), oil drilling, frac(k)ing; growth is happening and wealth is being created.  Depending on where in TX one goes -- NOT Austin -- one is free to exercise one's liberties without being afraid of the gummint, because the State government looks ready to stand up to DC.

[AmericanPatriot]

I'm staying put.
Too old to uproot and start over.

Besides, the part of Pa I'm in is red and Pittsburgh is 50 miles away.
And we have alllll those deer hunters with their guns

[Libertas]

I'm staying put.
Too old to uproot and start over.

Besides, the part of Pa I'm in is red and Pittsburgh is 50 miles away.
And we have alllll those deer hunters with their guns

Sounds like y'all on that farm in The Walking Dead...happy hunting!   

[LadyVirginia]

These people believe anything they do is right because they are such "good" people.

My daughter and I had a long discussion last night.  We know so many people judge things on a niceness standard.  It's not nice to not recycle your cans.  It's not nice to tell someone who they can "love".  It's not nice to expect others to work as hard as you.  ETC.

Then we discussed other places to live.

Hmm

When we bought this house I really imagined we'd stay here for good.  We have an acre, we're hard to find yet close to stores, etc.  BUT we live in an area with a high cost of living and high taxes.  It doesn't make sense to keep paying in.  Unless it all collapses and where we are will then be ideal.

I've made it clear to my children --none have their own families yet--that if we move we should do it together.  It makes more sense to me for our survival and success to stick together.   One has said no to Texas.  I want to see if there are any indicators that pop up in the days coming that may be clues to the best place for our family.

So for now my husband keeps working.  I said I was buying less.  I should say less on things to have and more on things that will work for us and assist our survival.

And I spend time searching real estate sites in various states to get a feel for what we might want to seek out.

[Libertas]

Personally I would rather move somewhere colder. The harsh winter has always been a superb selective force on the development of populations. I see winter as still having the capacity to deter the looter class, particularly when Leviathan's social infrastructure crumbles.

I hope the civil war begins sooner rather than later.  My fear, as also mentioned in Pandora's earlier post, is that if we have too much time go by, the younger generation will literally have known things no other way.

Hey, it's plenty cold here in the winter, the Zoos (especially Minneapolis) draws a lot of looters, our rich welfare bene's are a big hit.  But yeah, once that dies, the feral critters will be spreading out, looting and killing for whatever they can get.  The crackstacks will be the first to fall...

[RickZ]

But for now I want nothing to do with politics on the internet

I could never quit the internet

As screwy as this sounds, I've got to find some innocuous use for the internet, and that's not gonna be easy, believe you me.

Thanks, John.  The good thing is if I need to communicate with someone, there's always PMs for now, until web sites like this are shut down.  At this point, what's beyond conspiracy theory into reality?  They still have that guy from the stupid anti-muslim film (responsible for Benghazi) in jail.  No one says a word in support of his or anyone's free speech.  Then emails will be monitored and UN taxed, with the full weight and support of the Owebama Administration.  We will lose the ability to communicate with each other, no matter how hard we'll try.  Unless one has something like a ham set, one's communicative ability is at the mercy of a totalitarian government.

Libertas:  Thanks for the open invite.  But it's not a question of sanity, it's more deep than that (not to sound trite or idiotic).  This is against everything the nuns beat into me.  I'm lost here so I might as well be lost someplace else.  As I said, my health is a bad thing.  But the good thing is that now I will quite willingly and quickly leave behind just about everything if I figure out what to do, because staying here sure ain't the answer.  I'm figuring to move while the moving's good because rental prices in the mid and southeast red states are about to have an economic boom (read:  steep increases).  U-Haul and Ryder will both be doing a bang up business.  Expect checkpoints once the migration is noticed.

Pan:  Yep.  Texas or someplace wide enough open to breathe free.  For now.

"The last best hope for Humanity."  Hah!  What rubbish.  And saying that stings.

I'm staying put.
Too old to uproot and start over.

Besides, the part of Pa I'm in is red and Pittsburgh is 50 miles away.
And we have alllll those deer hunters with their guns

AP, believe me, I'm old now, too, older than my years thanks to my heart, but I'm not uprooting anything.  I will be running frantically toward something yet to be determined.

And quite honestly, I don't think 50 miles is enough of a cushion with urban centers.  The locusts can spread far and wide very fast.  And they won't be coming at you from one direction, but rather a Frankenstorm of Tyranny swirling all around you, rolling in in waves from every direction.  If you're a producer, at some point soon, they will bar you from leaving.  They need your living carcass to feed their lifestyle, and they will have their lifestyle fed.

[Weisshaupt]

Personally I would rather move somewhere colder. The harsh winter has always been a superb selective force on the development of populations. I see winter as still having the capacity to deter the looter class, particularly when Leviathan's social infrastructure crumbles.

I hope the civil war begins sooner rather than later.  My fear, as also mentioned in Pandora's earlier post, is that if we have too much time go by, the younger generation will literally have known things no other way.

Yep, I second the harsh environment thing. Typically the outcasts of a society take to the highlands. As the new farm regs, child labor regs and fuel prices force food production down, that crisis will be used to confiscate the good farmland for a cronie global conglomerate. Of course, maybe they will give you a job!  Point is, good, fertile farmland is likely to not stay in your possession long,  likewise a warm climate allows the homeless and thieve to survive without shelter, plus its a have for all sorts of insect and disease. Population densities arealso typically higher.

Surviving where Survival is an acquired skill is protection against those without that skill.

[Pandora]

Gunsmith is talking Texas.

My daughter and son-in-law are talking the same thing.

Interestingly, our close friends (our only friends, actually) were just today talking about Texas, too.  Gunsmith's been looking on the web at properties w/wo houses.

Ahhh, the thought of packing up *again* -- and after twenty years of accumulation; less than many, I might add -- is exhausting, really.  And I have my "procurement" sites and routine down pat here.  But ..... nothing that can't be reworked elsewhere.

[Magnum]

I know some talked about moving to a cold state. Let me just say even though we can be butt freezing cold here in Minnesocold. I would not move here!

We just elected a democratic house and senate to go along with a major loony lefty governor. We are now a deep blue state.  I am screwed!

I live in the heart of St. Paul and we have no, none, zip, zero, nada elected republicans in office in this socialist city and the @#$*% residents of St. Paul just voted on raising taxes again for the St. Paul Schools. My property taxes are absurd even though the housing market is stagnant the powers to be thought I did not pay enough taxes and the #$%^%@*$ hit me hard.

I am very seriously thinking of moving to South Dakota. I can not bring myself to move to badgerland.....

[Predator Don]

Come on down to Tennessee. If not for memphis, we are probably the reddest ( in more ways than 1) state there is. Plus, we have guns and ammo Lots of it. And country music.

[Pandora]

Come on down to Tennessee. If not for memphis, we are probably the reddest ( in more ways than 1) state there is. Plus, we have guns and ammo Lots of it. And country music.

What's your State government look like in terms of Party and the likelihood they'll tell the Feds to go scratch?

[Predator Don]

Come on down to Tennessee. If not for memphis, we are probably the reddest ( in more ways than 1) state there is. Plus, we have guns and ammo Lots of it. And country music.

What's your State government look like in terms of Party and the likelihood they'll tell the Feds to go scratch?

Republicans hold a super majority. 22-11 in the state. Libs can only win elections in Nashville ( davidson county). Forget memphis. It's considered the fifth wheel here. Nice to have a state 120 miles wide and 700 miles long. Easy to isolate.

Plus, my property taxes on a 250K home is 1440.00 year. No state income tax.

[Weisshaupt]

Come on down to Tennessee. If not for memphis, we are probably the reddest ( in more ways than 1) state there is. Plus, we have guns and ammo Lots of it. And country music.

What's your State government look like in terms of Party and the likelihood they'll tell the Feds to go scratch?

We are looking at various options too. But I have done so much work here in Colorado,  and I really don't want to pack up and leave it behind.  I chose to bug-out here and I really don't want to be more than a tank of gas from the bug out location.   Rural counties are still Conservative and the further out you are the less they  are likely to mess with you - even if you live in a deep blue state . Colorado is hardly deep blue. Its just a target rich environment, and since they voted in MaryJane the reaction times of the targets is going to be down.  Speaking of a business where you can sell to leftist morons and make money.... Yeah, Pot is destructive  but for the most part it only destroys the moron using it... in general pot smokers are mellow, slow and stupid.

If TX or somewhere actually leaves the Union, then  maybe its worth the move. But until that happens, I am not sure its worth the effort.  TX has the same problem that all the western states do - California Immigrants coming in and voting blue. God damn locusts.  Every urban center in the country is polluted.  Even Wyoming has Jackson Hole.   

[Glock32]

The conservative states of the west are Californicated. The conservative states of the south are Yankeefied.  You simply cannot escape the parasites.

[Pandora]

Come on down to Tennessee. If not for memphis, we are probably the reddest ( in more ways than 1) state there is. Plus, we have guns and ammo Lots of it. And country music.

What's your State government look like in terms of Party and the likelihood they'll tell the Feds to go scratch?

Republicans hold a super majority. 22-11 in the state. Libs can only win elections in Nashville ( davidson county). Forget memphis. It's considered the fifth wheel here. Nice to have a state 120 miles wide and 700 miles long. Easy to isolate.

Plus, my property taxes on a 250K home is 1440.00 year. No state income tax.

And from what I understand, the Left in TN keeps trying to get an income tax, with a narrower margin against every year.  What's the sales tax and on what?  Picking your brain here; hope you don't mind.

The conservative states of the west are Californicated. The conservative states of the south are Yankeefied.  You simply cannot escape the parasites.

I know, it's happening here in NC as well, with the added bonus of too many Repubs who are RINOs.  The only way to beat it is to go reinforce the growing conservative numbers elsewhere.  And, if need be .......

[Alphabet Soup]

Come on down to Tennessee. If not for memphis, we are probably the reddest ( in more ways than 1) state there is. Plus, we have guns and ammo Lots of it. And country music.

What's your State government look like in terms of Party and the likelihood they'll tell the Feds to go scratch?

We are looking at various options too. But I have done so much work here in Colorado,  and I really don't want to pack up and leave it behind.  I chose to bug-out here and I really don't want to be more than a tank of gas from the bug out location.   Rural counties are still Conservative and the further out you are the less they  are likely to mess with you - even if you live in a deep blue state . Colorado is hardly deep blue. Its just a target rich environment, and since they voted in MaryJane the reaction times of the targets is going to be down.  Speaking of a business where you can sell to leftist morons and make money.... Yeah, Pot is destructive  but for the most part it only destroys the moron using it... in general pot smokers are mellow, slow and stupid.

If TX or somewhere actually leaves the Union, then  maybe its worth the move. But until that happens, I am not sure its worth the effort.  TX has the same problem that all the western states do - California Immigrants coming in and voting blue. God damn locusts.  Every urban center in the country is polluted.  Even Wyoming has Jackson Hole.   

Next spring I'm going to spend a lot of time in eastern Washington. I have friends that live there and swear that it is normal (of course you gotta consider what they're comparing it to!). It wouldn't break that "one tank of gas" rule that really makes sense and might offer a temporary respite from the lunacy I see on a daily basis.

Obviously I would need that disability settlement to provide me with the necessary grub-stake!

[LadyVirginia]

Being in a border state like Texas would bother me and wide open spaces I'm not crazy about.

Now I could see Tennessee or similar geography because I know a person can hide in the mountains and not be found. I like Tenn.  Not much for country music but hey I guess I could learn to love it.

Or eastern Tenn, southwestern NC, northwestern GA mountain areas--I like that area and it's easy to stay put up on the side of a mountain and it's a good location when traveling is necessary because you can head in any direction easily.

Cheaper property can be found in northern wisconsin but as my daughter said we might as well move to Canada! ha  Not crazy about Wisconsin anyway and at this point there's way too many libs there right now.


 

[Pandora]

Texas' northeast edge borders Oklahoma, and Gunsmith tells me along that border, and that of the eastern part of the state, topography just like NC's can be found.  Not real flat, lots of trees.