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Mark Steyn: Reality doesn't need to win Electoral College
« on: November 09, 2012, 08:51:45 PM »
Steyn is pulling a variation of Walter E. Williams' "reality is not optional" here.  Give this a read.  Though it's all pretty dismal stuff that we already know for the most part, I take an odd solace in reading it -- a reminder that, yes, the implosion is still very much on schedule and it cares little for opinion polls.


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Amid the ruin and rubble of the grey morning after, it may seem in poor taste to do anything so vulgar as plug the new and stunningly topical paperback edition of my book, "After America" – or, as Dennis Miller retitled it on the radio the other day, "Wednesday." But the business of America is business, as Calvin Coolidge said long ago in an alternative universe, and I certainly could use a little. So I'm going to be vulgar and plug away. The central question of "Wednesday" – I mean, "After America" – is whether the Brokest Nation In History is capable of meaningful course correction. On Tuesday, the American people answered that question. The rest of the world will make its dispositions accordingly.

In the weeks ahead, Democrats and Republicans will reach a triumphant "bipartisan" deal to avert the "fiscal cliff" through some artful bookkeeping mechanism that postpones Taxmageddon for another year, or six months, or three, when they can reach yet another triumphant deal to postpone it yet again. Harry Reid has already announced that he wants to raise the debt ceiling – or, more accurately, lower the debt abyss – by $2.4 trillion before the end of the year, and no doubt we can look forward to a spectacular "bipartisan" agreement on that, too. It took the government of the United States two centuries to rack up its first trillion dollars in debt. Now Washington piles on another trillion every nine months. Forward!

If you add up the total debt – state, local, the works – every man, woman, and child in this country owes 200 grand (which is rather more than the average Greek does). Every American family owes about three-quarters of a million bucks, or about the budget deficit of Lichtenstein, which has the highest GDP per capita in the world. Which means that HRH Prince Hans-Adam II can afford it rather more easily than Bud and Cindy at 27b Elm Street. In 2009, the Democrats became the first government in the history of the planet to establish annual trillion-dollar deficits as a permanent feature of life. Before the end of Obama's second term, the federal debt alone will hit $20 trillion. That ought to have been the central fact of this election – that Americans are the brokest brokey-broke losers who ever lived, and it's time to do something about it.

My Hillsdale College comrade Paul Rahe, while accepting much of my thesis, thought that, as an effete milquetoast pantywaist sissified foreigner, I had missed a vital distinction. As he saw it, you can take the boy out of Canada but you can't take the Canada out of the boy. I had failed to appreciate that Americans were not Euro-Canadians, and would not go gently into the statist night. But, as I note in my book, "a determined state can change the character of a people in the space of a generation or two." Tuesday's results demonstrate that, as a whole, the American electorate is trending very Euro-Canadian. True, you still have butch T-shirts – "Don't Tread On Me," "These Colors Don't Run"... In my own state, where the Democrats ran the board on Election Night, the "Live Free Or Die" license plates look very nice when you see them all lined up in the parking lot of the Social Security office. But, in their view of the state and its largesse, there's nothing very exceptional about Americans, except that they're the last to get with the program. Barack Obama ran well to the left of Bill Clinton and John Kerry, and has been rewarded for it both by his party's victory and by the reflex urgings of the usual GOP experts that the Republican Party needs to "moderate" its brand.

I have no interest in the traditional straw clutching – oh, it was the weak candidate... hard to knock off an incumbent... next time we'll have a better GOTV operation in Colorado... I'm always struck, if one chances to be with a GOP insider when a new poll rolls off the wire, that their first reaction is to query whether it's of "likely" voters or merely "registered" voters. As the consultant class knows, registered voters skew more Democrat than likely voters, and polls of "all adults" skew more Democrat still. Hence the preoccupation with turnout models. In other words, if America had compulsory voting as Australia does, the Republicans would lose every time. In Oz, there's no turnout model, because everyone turns out. The turnout-model obsession is an implicit acknowledgment of an awkward truth – that, outside the voting booth, the default setting of American society is ever more liberal and statist.

The short version of electoral cycles is as follows: the low-turnout midterms are fought in political terms, and thus Republicans do well and sometimes spectacularly well (1994, 2010); the higher-turnout presidential elections are fought in broader cultural terms, and Republicans do poorly, because they've ceded most of the cultural space to the other side. What's more likely to determine the course of your nation's destiny? A narrow focus on robocalls in selected Florida and New Hampshire counties every other fall? Or determining how all the great questions are framed from the classroom to the iPod to the movie screen in the 729 days between elections?

The good news is that reality (to use a quaint expression) doesn't need to swing a couple of thousand soccer moms in northern Virginia. Reality doesn't need to crack 270 in the Electoral College. Reality can get 1.3 percent of the popular vote and still trump everything else. In the course of his first term, Obama increased the federal debt by just shy of $6 trillion and, in return, grew the economy by $905 billion. So, as Lance Roberts at Street Talk Live pointed out, in order to generate every $1 of economic growth the United States had to borrow about $5.60. There's no one out there on the planet – whether it's "the rich" or the Chinese – who can afford to carry on bankrolling that rate of return. According to one CBO analysis, US government spending is sustainable as long as the rest of the world is prepared to sink 19 percent of its GDP into U.S. Treasury debt. We already know the answer to that: In order to avoid the public humiliation of a failed bond auction, the U.S. Treasury sells 70 percent of the debt it issues to the Federal Reserve – which is to say the left hand of the U.S. government is borrowing money from the right hand of the U.S. government. It's government as a Nigerian email scam, with Ben Bernanke playing the role of the dictator's widow with $4 trillion under her bed that she's willing to wire to Timmy Geithner as soon as he sends her his bank account details.

If that's all a bit too technical, here's the gist: There's nothing holding the joint up.

So, Washington cannot be saved from itself. For the moment, tend to your state, and county, town and school district, and demonstrate the virtues of responsible self-government at the local level. Americans as a whole have joined the rest of the Western world in voting themselves a lifestyle they are not willing to earn. The longer any course correction is postponed the more convulsive it will be. Alas, on Tuesday, the electorate opted to defer it for another four years. I doubt they'll get that long.


©MARK STEYN

http://www.ocregister.com/opinion/debt-377298-government-trillion.html
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Re: Mark Steyn: Reality doesn't need to win Electoral College
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2012, 09:41:39 PM »
Well, that's the long and short of it.  What do we do now?
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Re: Mark Steyn: Reality doesn't need to win Electoral College
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2012, 09:47:59 PM »
Well, that's the long and short of it.  What do we do now?

Well we could all jump in our time machines and go back and try to get the morons to see reason. Nah, I knew that wouldn't work.

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Re: Mark Steyn: Reality doesn't need to win Electoral College
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2012, 09:54:26 PM »
Well, that's the long and short of it.  What do we do now?

Well we could all jump in our time machines and go back and try to get the morons to see reason. Nah, I knew that wouldn't work.
No but if you went back far enough and squashed a cockroach, the whole thing could have been averted. ::hysterical::
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Re: Mark Steyn: Reality doesn't need to win Electoral College
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2012, 10:07:22 PM »
Well, that's the long and short of it.  What do we do now?

Well we could all jump in our time machines and go back and try to get the morons to see reason. Nah, I knew that wouldn't work.

Right.  Back to the TEOTWAWKI: Location thread.
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Re: Mark Steyn: Reality doesn't need to win Electoral College
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2012, 10:10:23 PM »
A political force multiplier that can be applied to each of our individual representatives and to selected representative leadership.

We have the numerical advantage in the House and the House is where a president is impeached.  If Rep Leslie of SC was so bent he could have Obama and his minions treading water and gulping for air indefinitely. For the whole four years.
 



Cliffs Notes of the time line:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/1998/nov/18/clinton.usa

More complete version of the time line:
http://www.historyplace.com/unitedstates/impeachments/clinton.htm

 Amid this extraordinary atmosphere, the House of Representatives voted on the four articles of impeachment, needing only a simple majority (218 votes) for approval of each article.

    Articles of Impeachment:

    RESOLVED that William Jefferson Clinton, President of the United States, is impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors, and that the following articles of impeachment be exhibited to the United States Senate:

    ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT EXHIBITED BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IN THE NAME OF ITSELF AND OF THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AGAINST WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, IN MAINTENANCE AND SUPPORT OF ITS IMPEACHMENT AGAINST HIM FOR HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS.

        Article 1: Perjury before Independent Counsel Ken Starr's grand jury.

        In his conduct while President of the United States, William Jefferson Clinton, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, has willfully corrupted and manipulated the judicial process of the United States for his personal gain and exoneration, impeding the administration of justice, in that:

        On August 17, 1998, William Jefferson Clinton swore to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth before a Federal grand jury of the United States. Contrary to that oath, William Jefferson Clinton willfully provided perjurious, false and misleading testimony to the grand jury concerning one or more of the following:

        (1) the nature and details of his relationship with a subordinate Government employee;
        (2) prior perjurious, false and misleading testimony he gave in a Federal civil rights action brought against him;
        (3) prior false and misleading statements he allowed his attorney to make to a Federal judge in that civil rights action; and
        (4) his corrupt efforts to influence the testimony of witnesses and to impede the discovery of evidence in that civil rights action.

        In doing this, William Jefferson Clinton has undermined the integrity of his office, has brought disrepute on the Presidency, has betrayed his trust as President, and has acted in a manner subversive of the rule of law and justice, to the manifest injury of the people of the United States.

        Wherefore, William Jefferson Clinton, by such conduct, warrants impeachment and trial, and removal from office and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust or profit under the United States.

        (Approved 21-16 by the House Judiciary Committee on Friday, December 11, 1998)
        (Passed 228-206 in the House of Representatives at 1:25 p.m. on Saturday, December 19, 1998)

        Article 2: Perjury in the Paula Jones civil case.

        In his conduct while President of the United States, William Jefferson Clinton, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, has willfully corrupted and manipulated the judicial process of the United States for his personal gain and exoneration, impeding the administration of justice, in that:

        (1) On December 23, 1997, William Jefferson Clinton, in sworn answers to written questions asked as part of a Federal civil rights action brought against him, willfully provided perjurious, false and misleading testimony in response to questions deemed relevant by a Federal judge concerning conduct and proposed conduct with subordinate employees.

        (2) On January 17, 1998, William Jefferson Clinton swore under oath to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth in a deposition given as part of a Federal civil rights action brought against him. Contrary to that oath, William Jefferson Clinton willfully provided perjurious, false and misleading testimony in response to questions deemed relevant by a Federal judge concerning the nature and details of his relationship with a subordinate Government employee, his knowledge of that employee's involvement and participation in the civil rights action brought against him, and his corrupt efforts to influence the testimony of that employee.

        In all of this, William Jefferson Clinton has undermined the integrity of his office, has brought disrepute on the Presidency, has betrayed his trust as President, and has acted in a manner subversive of the rule of law and justice, to the manifest injury of the people of the United States.

        Wherefore, William Jefferson Clinton, by such conduct, warrants impeachment and trial, and removal from office and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust or profit under the United States.

        (Approved 20-17 by the House Judiciary Committee on Friday, December 11, 1998)
        (Failed 229-205 in the House of Representatives at 1:42 p.m. on Saturday, December 19, 1998)

        Article 3: Obstruction of Justice related to the Jones case.

        In his conduct while President of the United States, William Jefferson Clinton, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, has prevented, obstructed, and impeded the administration of justice, and has to that end engaged personally, and through his subordinates and agents, in a course of conduct or scheme designed to delay, impede, cover up, and conceal the existence of evidence and testimony related to a Federal civil rights action brought against him in a duly instituted judicial proceeding.

        The means used to implement this course of conduct or scheme included one or more of the following acts:

        (1) On or about December 17, 1997, William Jefferson Clinton corruptly encouraged a witness in a Federal civil rights action brought against him to execute a sworn affidavit in that proceeding that he knew to be perjurious, false and misleading.

        (2) On or about December 17, 1997, William Jefferson Clinton corruptly encouraged a witness in a Federal civil rights action brought against him to give perjurious, false and misleading testimony if and when called to testify personally in that proceeding.

        (3) On or about December 28, 1997, William Jefferson Clinton corruptly engaged in, encouraged, or supported a scheme to conceal evidence that had been subpoenaed in a Federal civil rights action brought against him.

        (4) Beginning on or about December 7, 1997, and continuing through and including January 14, 1998, William Jefferson Clinton intensified and succeeded in an effort to secure job assistance to a witness in a Federal civil rights action brought against him in order to corruptly prevent the truthful testimony of that witness in that proceeding at a time when the truthful testimony of that witness would have been harmful to him.

        (5) On January 17, 1998, at his deposition in a Federal civil rights action brought against him, William Jefferson Clinton corruptly allowed his attorney to make false and misleading statements to a Federal judge characterizing an affidavit, in order to prevent questioning deemed relevant by the judge. Such false and misleading statements were subsequently acknowledged by his attorney in a communication to that judge.

        (6) On or about January 18 and January 20-21, 1998, William Jefferson Clinton related a false and misleading account of events relevant to a Federal civil rights action brought against him to a potential witness in that proceeding, in order to corruptly influence the testimony of that witness.

        (7) On or about January 21, 23 and 26, 1998, William Jefferson Clinton made false and misleading statements to potential witnesses in a Federal grand jury proceeding in order to corruptly influence the testimony of those witnesses. The false and misleading statements made by William Jefferson Clinton were repeated by the witnesses to the grand jury, causing the grand jury to receive false and misleading information.

        In all of this, William Jefferson Clinton has undermined the integrity of his office, has brought disrepute on the Presidency, has betrayed his trust as President, and has acted in a manner subversive of the rule of law and justice, to the manifest injury of the people of the United States.

        Wherefore, William Jefferson Clinton, by such conduct, warrants impeachment and trial, and removal from office and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust or profit under the United States.

        (Approved 21-16 by the House Judiciary Committee on Friday, December 11, 1998)
        (Passed 221-212 in the House of Representatives at 1:59 p.m. on Saturday, December 19, 1998)

        Article 4: Abuse of Power by making perjurious statements to Congress in his answers to the 81 questions posed by the Judiciary Committee.

        Using the powers and influence of the office of President of the United States, William Jefferson Clinton, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in disregard of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, has engaged in conduct that resulted in misuse and abuse of his high office, impaired the due and proper administration of justice and the conduct of lawful inquiries, and contravened the authority of the legislative branch and the truth-seeking purpose of a coordinate investigative proceeding in that, as President, William Jefferson Clinton, refused and failed to respond to certain written requests for admission and willfully made perjurious, false and misleading sworn statements in response to certain written requests for admission propounded to him as part of the impeachment inquiry authorized by the House of Representatives of the Congress of the United States.

        William Jefferson Clinton, in refusing and failing to respond, and in making perjurious, false and misleading statements, assumed to himself functions and judgments necessary to the exercise of the sole power of impeachment vested by the Constitution in the House of Representatives and exhibited contempt for the inquiry.

        In doing this, William Jefferson Clinton has undermined the integrity of his office, has brought disrepute on the Presidency, has betrayed his trust as President, and has acted in a manner subversive of the rule of law and justice, to the manifest injury of the people of the United States.

        Wherefore, William Jefferson Clinton, by such conduct, warrants impeachment and trial, and removal from office and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust or profit under the United States.

        (Approved 21-16 by the House Judiciary Committee on Saturday, December 12, 1998)
        (Failed 285-148 in the House of Representatives at 2:15 p.m. on Saturday, December 19, 1998)

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Re: Mark Steyn: Reality doesn't need to win Electoral College
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2012, 10:18:46 PM »
Have you actually *heard* The Crybaby on the radio the past two days?

Nuthin' o' the aforementioned is gonna happen as long as he can help it.
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Re: Mark Steyn: Reality doesn't need to win Electoral College
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2012, 11:00:35 PM »

Yes, and I also caught a glimpse.  He's such a wimp ESPN probably won't hire him back.  That's why the post began with the concept of a political force multiplier.  It only requires one affective thought (the multiplier), something to put them in a painful political hammerlock, they'll give to the path of least pain which would be pursuing impeachment.

Why is it so hard to lever worms?  It's really easy, they have 49% of the electorate on their side, all they need to do is do it.

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Re: Mark Steyn: Reality doesn't need to win Electoral College
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2012, 07:22:19 AM »
What Hurts the Most . . .

Do them dumbass Democrats really believe the the solution is to tax the rich "just a little more"? Hell, confiscate all of their wealth above a net of $200,000, and see how long the government will run. A freakin month? Couple of months? Why don't they just kill the goose? Who needs producers when we can print money and borrow more prosperity?

Now, I'm pissed at the Republicans for not taking more of a stand. but I wish them no harm. Democrats, however, that is another story. Should I describe with precision what I would like to happen to the thieves in the Progressive Party, I would be arrested forthright and certainly convicted.
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Re: Mark Steyn: Reality doesn't need to win Electoral College
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2012, 08:50:40 AM »
It's never about the tax
It's about the control
The government doesn't need any of our taxes.
The Fed just needs to print it's magic money

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Re: Mark Steyn: Reality doesn't need to win Electoral College
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2012, 10:02:45 AM »
The only way to kill the beast is to overwhelm it, give it everything it wants a thousand times over...Cloward-Piven the fothermucker!
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