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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #400 on: August 25, 2015, 09:42:45 AM »


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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #401 on: August 25, 2015, 09:52:00 AM »
That's a nice 99% spread...and we already popped the bottom?  Heh!

OK, enough innuendo!

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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #402 on: August 26, 2015, 08:12:03 AM »
Things really popping now...

http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php?topic=11367.msg147467#msg147467

There is so much going on simultaneously it can be dizzying knowing it all and how in relates to each other.

Sometimes it helps to sit back and just realize the big picture...which is only getting uglier.

ETA -

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-26/what-if-crash-rigged-everything-else

Getting beyond the  ::foilhathelicopter:: hyperbole, the idea that this chaos is orchestrated by the Deep State isn't entirely off base.  Not enough info to tell if this is intentional really bad scary scenario or just the usual skullduggery to limp things along and buy time before the really bad scary hits.

But hey, the PTBs do have their regional differences in how they operate.  In China for example, they openly arrest those who refuse to toe the party line, while in the West they merely just die under mysterious circumstances.

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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #403 on: August 27, 2015, 08:18:48 AM »
Good News! The economy is fine and growing at 3.7% in the 2nd Quarter

And don't read the comments - the trolls are awful.  "It can't be true because a black man is in charge" and so on.
No its not true because they just had to change how they calculated GDP , Inflation and a bunch of other factors so they could pretend all is well. Any growth we had is due to lower oil prices, and it is temporary - since the power of the dollar is directly proportional to oil cost and demand.  Oh, and Obamacare is awesome and will teh mor awesome when "fully implemented"

Some are even saying the Fed will use this info to raise rates.  Bah! That isn't going to happen, and if it does, its because its a planned crisis that the administration doesn't want to let go  to waste.

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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #404 on: August 27, 2015, 08:25:58 AM »
Ctrl-P



And let the deflationary implosion begin.

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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #405 on: August 31, 2015, 06:50:57 AM »
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-30/jackson-hole-post-mortem-door-still-fully-open-september-lift

 ::hysterical::

Rate hike my arse! 

Is there anybody left who believes this crap?

And if you like that you'll love this - JPMorgan: "Nothing Appears To Be Breaking" But "Something Happened"

To hike or not to hike?   ::rolllaughing::

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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #406 on: September 25, 2015, 06:38:49 AM »
http://www.businessinsider.com/fed-chair-receiving-medical-attention-2015-9

I'd feel ill all the time too if I had to peddle BS 24/7...
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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #407 on: November 12, 2015, 11:33:18 AM »
This is stunning!

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_FEDERAL_RESERVE_YELLEN?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-11-12-09-49-52

Yellen just admitted they don't know what is going on or what to do about it!

Seriously...I don't know what will kill more people first...the economic collapse that seems unavoidable, the collapse of Judeo-Christian society that seems inevitable, the slouch into totalitarian servitude that appears certain or the suicidal appeasement of Islam...
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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #408 on: November 13, 2015, 08:59:33 AM »
Ladies and gentlemen, I present a Northwestern Poli Sci student.

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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #409 on: November 13, 2015, 09:35:47 AM »
Yup, saw that earlier.

By modern standards she is ready for a high government position.

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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #410 on: December 16, 2015, 12:21:42 PM »
Fed announcement day...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-16/complete-fed-decision-preview-all-you-need-know

...place your bets, have your popcorn ready...

...I expect a paltry and meaningless increase, the details of which have already been selectively leaked into crony ears poised to reap the harvest once everyone else is let in on the news...and talk of "tightening" just makes me blurt our snorts and giggles...

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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #411 on: December 16, 2015, 01:55:21 PM »
The Fed made clear that the rate hike was a tentative beginning to a "gradual" tightening cycle, and that in deciding its next move it would put a premium on monitoring inflation, which remains mired below target.

"In light of the current shortfall of inflation from 2 percent, the Committee will carefully monitor actual and expected progress toward its inflation goal. The Committee expects that economic conditions will evolve in a manner that

will warrant only gradual increases in the federal funds rate," the Fed said.

New economic projections from Fed policymakers were largely unchanged from September, with unemployment anticipated to fall to 4.7 percent next year and economic growth at 2.4 percent.

The statement and its promise of a gradual path represents a compromise between those who have been ready to raise rates for months and those who feel the economy is still at risk.

"The Fed is going out of its way to assure markets that, by embarking on a “gradual” path, this will not be your traditional interest rate cycle," said Mohamed El-Erian, Chief Economic Advisor at Allianz.

The dollar firmed modestly after the rate rise. Based on interest rate futures markets, traders expected a second hike in April.

The median projected target interest rate for 2016 remained 1.375 percent, implying four quarter-point rate hikes next year.

To edge that rate from its current near-zero level to between 0.25 percent and 0.50 percent, the Fed said it would set the interest it pays banks on excess reserves at 0.50 percent, and said it would offer up to $2 trillion in reverse repurchase agreements, an aggressive figure that shows its resolve to pull rates higher.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/fed-readies-first-hike-almost-135151591.html?l=1

How cute, these clowns think the economy is looking better...lets skip over the fact that much of their official numbers are cooked beyond recognition...and instead lets believe in nothing but hopium, unicorns, fairies...

 ::hysterical::

WTF, the casino's are running with it...

http://finviz.com/

...it must be real!!!

If I hadn't already pulled out, I would have some short plays set to go.  But they rob people blind both directions, so...
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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #412 on: December 17, 2015, 07:35:01 AM »
Now let's watch interest on the debt take off.

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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #413 on: December 17, 2015, 07:48:29 AM »
Yeah, looks like they are trying to boil the frog. After a decade of "we might raise the rate" I guess the fed finally felt they had to prove they still could.  But .25 isn't enough to matter, and while loan rates instantly  took on the new value,  savings rates of course did not - because the Fed has caused so much "excess liquidity" such that they don't need consumer deposits- any bank with "insufficient reserves" just borrows from the Fed.. and this little hike will help absorbe some of that - slowly.. problem is there are still trillions in credit default swaps that  dwarf any reserves and as Europe continues to collapse,  those "reserves" will be swallowed in a heart beat.  The obviously are trying to burn through the bad debt slowly,  and the sheep are dumb enough to not panic, so maybe that will continue to work... until as MN Hawk pointed out, the Interest exceeds what can be collected in taxes.   

I predict the Fed will NOT raise rates again in the next year. They will probably want to lower it again , but can't now without admitting it was a mistake. So I suspect this .25 adjustment will stay -- at least till after the election. If a Pubbie wins, then they might raise it again just to serve the narrative and make it look like the pubbie is responsible for a "worsening" economy.

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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #414 on: December 17, 2015, 08:10:31 AM »
Ah, that wonderful "boil the frog by turning it up gradually" nonsense except, the frog is on the outside in full control of the ferocity of the flame and it is WE that are in the pot of water. Hot baths are so relaxing aren't they?
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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #415 on: December 17, 2015, 08:20:25 AM »
I too am skeptical on their commitment to this path, I just don't think people this typically gutless who react only when backed into a corner will ever be able to respond intelligently when stuff really does start to break.  And I mean break, not some transient state they cling to with trembling hope, I mean a full-on rupture.  Their Neo-Keynesian insanity assures it.  They way economies were structured, the reliance everybody has on liquid fiat, fractional reserves, debt and deficit financing, assets hypothicated and rehypothicated out of existence, bogus economic data, bubble markets...

The sheeple have been rattled and while they may appear docile they could stampede at any time.  But the PTBs have no choice, they have to try to keep them as calm as they can...which means running this scam out a bit longer...which means trying to suck what resources they can suck from the masses while they are docile...which guarantees when this thing starts to crash, it will be globally epic, it will make Rome's collapse look like a quiet holiday.

MNHawk mentions the interest on the debt, judging from the treachery perpetrated by Speaker Ryan and the rest of the House leadership team, another bloated budget seems to indicate they don't give a flying fornication about the debt or the interest on it...or for any of us for that matter.

Is it our turn not to give a f**k anymore?
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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #416 on: December 17, 2015, 03:01:22 PM »
They are delusional.  All that comes of whatever they try are unintended consequences.  They can't do a dman thing about demographics (aging population, smaller successive generations, etc.).
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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #417 on: December 18, 2015, 07:03:10 AM »
Pretty nobody cares about consequences...beyond being able to deflect blame elsewhere...which won't hold up much longer...

Check this out, nothing says "Oh, sh*t!" like a graphic graphic! (Click on it to enlarge it)



http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-17/all-world%E2%80%99s-money-and-markets-one-visualization

This is best described in crude vernacular...this is what f**ked looks like.
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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #418 on: December 20, 2015, 08:55:53 AM »
I don't think Trump is wrong on timing...

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-12-19/trump-predicts-u-s-economic-bubble-could-soon-burst

...I thought things might pop late this year, but the kabuki still has some play in it...but there is nothing but more bad news piling up and with the oil wars still raging along with real wars and Stymie bent on making more war likely and the fiat wars and everything else....the added bonus of a US POTUS election year...

...and if I was coming in new I would want the bad hitting Obama's face too...

...that useless little shyt got way with blaming everything on Bush for 7 years...and it will be 8 because he has never taken responsibility for anything his fault since he slithered down his momma's leg!
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Re: The Economy is Going to Implode
« Reply #419 on: December 20, 2015, 09:09:02 AM »
I don't know.. I think we may even still have decades -- but I agree the pressures are piling up.  The underlying factors for dollar demand - mostly oil prices - are in decline. However, we  are still seeing a lot of "flight to safety" behavior and the dollar still sucks the least.  The system is certainly getting more volatile and unstable - increasing the chance that some random event will take the house of cards down.  Ironically one of those events would be an actual increase in GDP/Production (if idiots are dumb enough to place hope in Trump, they may place hope in the economy once he is elected) - and that might fore the Feds hand and make them raise rates - which the Fed can't pay with 18 Trillion in debt and climbing.  Or China could suddenly dump bonds in an act of war. Starting WWIII with Russia might also spur GDP  in the short term, while racking up even more debt - must might distract from the problem and get people to accept rations and other price fixing measures.  So many ways this could go.. none of them good.