Topic: Time to Move On From the GOP?

[Glock32]

Yeah we don't.  Won't be getting more of the same, that much is for damn sure.

[Alphabet Soup]

Man, you people just don't get it

I was sorta hoping that you would expand on your comment CC because I'll admit that -yea- I don't get it.

I've been campaigning on behalf of and voting for Republican candidates and supporting the party for a lot of years. I've never knowingly voted for a dhimmicrat. There's probably a picture of me somewhere in the GOP archives titled "Reliable voter". As much as this little fish could influence the party in the right direction I've always tried. And realistically I haven't asked for much. No special favors. No kick-backs. Just competent leadership and support of conservative principles (Yea - I know that "republican" and "Conservative" aren't necessarily synonymous).

And mind you I've done all of that while the GOP has delivered up some of the most lackluster candidates imaginable. No matter. Like the grunt I am I grumbled a bit and pulled the lever anyway. As a result we have drifted further and further from our core principles over the last number of years. McCain? Romney?! How were these guys supposed to lead us in the right direction? I'll admit that Romney is probably a competent administrator but he is also a political will-o'-the-wisp. McCain? He is/was a political hack who acts like a punch-drunk fighter that received the proverbial one too many.

No matter - I supported them anyway. And lost.

It is my firm belief that the GOP is resigned to losing, from now until they find their spine...or sweet oblivion. And becoming dhimmicrat-lite isn't the cure. Why vote for a pale imitation when you can get the "real" thing?

So please. Please tell me what I have wrong. Am I wrong to complain about continuing to support a dead party? Am I wrong when I observe that feckless begets feckless?

The Whig Party was a major force in early America. It campaigned and elected presidents Harrison and Taylor. It had the dubious distinction of representing Fillmore (until they kicked him out). But even as substantial as it was, history and circumstance overtook it and it was, as they say, relegated to the dustbin of history.

When a party becomes non-responsive to the wishes of its constituency it puts its own viability at risk. When it stops winning elections the people will abandon it. If it can't adapt to changing circumstances it will die.

I can't help but notice the GOP death-rattle.

[John Florida]

Man, you people just don't get it

  Nope,you don't get it!! We've been there for them for damned ever and all we get is counted as being there like it or not were the base and I'm tired of being there for them so they can do what they will with me. Now I want what I want or they can KMA. I to my shame voted McCain because I'm a good boy and wouldn't think of staying home for the sake of the party even when the party has forsaken me.

  No more money and no vote till I get catered to and my wishes are made a central part of the repub format.

[warpmine]

Man, you people just don't get it

  Nope,you don't get it!! We've been there for them for damned ever and all we get is counted as being there like it or not were the base and I'm tired of being there for them so they can do what they will with me. Now I want what I want or they can KMA. I to my shame voted McCain because I'm a good boy and wouldn't think of staying home for the sake of the party even when the party has forsaken me.

  No more money and no vote till I get catered to and my wishes are made a central part of the repub format.

JF has stated it clear as crystal. They've been catering to this group and that for a few decades now while telling us to go f$^& ourselves paying only lip service to a few simple requirements which are shrinking the government and fiscal responsibility both of which have been mentioned until they get that power back then nothing meaning a change in velocity toward the cliff but no change in direction.

A new party is what's needed. A party that can do more than just pay lip service to core principles of conservatism. I keep reading comments from those that are fiscal conservatives but could care less about social issues all espousing the sentiment that we must align ourselves to their cause. Bullshyt, if they want a fiscal responsibility than they should be aligning themselves with us and put their beliefs of social moderation in their perspective asses. They're the ones that lose sight of the Founder's reasons for separation to begin with. They always seem to gravitate towards the Rats socially but come crying the blues when they are shoved aside in favor of Marxism for economic policies. You guys, Reagan Democrats have lost your party to the Marxists because you wanted that "big tent" and all that goes with it. We on the other hand understand why social economics go hand in hand with fiscal policy and have stated it time and again using logic and history as proof of that.

The moral of the story is the counter culture has wrecked the country ripping nature's creator God from the fabric of America. Life and liberty are rights that even a pre-born baby must be recognized as to having or the Declaration of Independence and the Preamble of the Constitution means nothing.
If the liberals in the GOPe want nothing other than demonRat lite that they can steer the ship along side of theirs but don't be disappointed when they never win elections. As far as I'm concerned they can wither and die with the country that has in every sense of the phrase, "left us".

This country isn't in danger of falling off the proverbial cliff because it's already plummeting to her death thanks to the elites worrying more about inclusiveness rather than constitutional government.
Don't look for parachutes to save you from the sudden impact with the ground as there isn't any. unlike Wile Coyote, second chances you don't get. CYA

[Pandora]

Man, you people just don't get it

O rly.  Want to tell us what we "don't get" .... again?

[Libertas]

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[Libertas]

More brave, principled Pubbie's at play...

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/nov/27/gop-lawmakers-float-immigration-reform-plan/

Choke on it!

[charlesoakwood]

Red State's should unite and quit sending them money, that would cut to the chase. 

[Predator Don]

Red State's should unite and quit sending them money, that would cut to the chase. 

Heard today a conservative financial magazine created a list of states to avoid when investing. Maybe the only real power left is to vote with our pocketbook and our choice of states in which we live.

[charlesoakwood]

The full list of “death spiral” states includes NM, MS, CA, AL, ME, NY, SC, KY, IL, HI and OH, in order of taker to maker ratio. Ohio may not be as swingy in the future as it has been in the past.

They give no mention why SC has bad ratio, I speculate it's more the high ratio of military retirees than poor business atmosphere.

[Glock32]

SC also has a substantial "black belt", championed by one Rep. Clyburn. It's probably the explanation for MS and AL as well.

[charlesoakwood]

I'd never heard of the "black belt" till the other day I viewed a most interesting article and now I can't find it here or at AoS or Bing or Goolge.

Anyway, it took the black belt back to its origin which was a time before the seas receded, there were map illustrations, and how that period influenced the richness of the soil which is where, the historical shoreline?, the agrarian South was most productive.

 

[charlesoakwood]

Like a moth to a flame.

They say Romney received three million less votes than McCain.  May they take comfort knowing they have achieved for the next election three million and one less votes.

[Libertas]

Red State's should unite and quit sending them money, that would cut to the chase. 

Heard today a conservative financial magazine created a list of states to avoid when investing. Maybe the only real power left is to vote with our pocketbook and our choice of states in which we live.

Then people better head for the thickest part...limbs could get severed.

[Libertas]

FYI - Looks lke business as usual for the GOP, what a shock...

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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83888.html

I would like to see Bachmann light the chamber on fire, but, whatever...

[AmericanPatriot]

I was always a believer in the take it back from the inside plan.

Then I  remembered that there were a ton of rule changes that effectively locked out any possibility of a grassroots movement and ensuring only top down selection of a candidate.

Screw 'em

[Libertas]

The sooner people realize they are already slaves the sooner the rebellion can start.  Of course, you can shove a face into the steaming pile of reality and still many will not get it...just need to wake up enough of the non-brain-dead...then we can party.

[Predator Don]

The sooner people realize they are already slaves the sooner the rebellion can start.  Of course, you can shove a face into the steaming pile of reality and still many will not get it...just need to wake up enough of the non-brain-dead...then we can party.

47% of the people PREFER to be slaves. You can't wake up the living dead......You can only purge a few.

[Libertas]

Speaking of the living dead...only a zombie could meet the guy that nailed him and think nothing about it...

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/romney-and-obama-to-meet-privately-on-thursday/

I'd have sent a large human-sized jar and...

[Glock32]

Wasn't there a plot twist in The Matrix where one of the people who knew everything was fake nevertheless tried to sabotage the efforts of the good guys, because he was comfortable in the manufactured reality and didn't want them pulling aside the proverbial curtain?  I haven't seen the movie in a long time, but seem to remember something like that from it. It describes an awful lot of people today. People who should, and in fact do, know better. But they prefer the familiarity, stability, and comfort of unreality and servitude. It's kind of like a domesticated animal. When it has been finally broken of its animal nature, it will voluntarily return to its cage because it knows things no other way.