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Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #140 on: December 19, 2012, 11:34:19 AM »
Quote from: Libertas on December 19, 2012, 11:28:17 AM
Under current Texas law, school districts can grant written permission for employees to carry firearms on campus. Harrold ISD, a district in northwest Texas with roughly 100 students, allows teachers to carry concealed handguns under what they call a "Guardian Plan," set up in the wake of the 2007 shooting at Virginia Tech.

David Thewatt, the district's superintendent, told the Fort Worth Star-Telegram that his district did not want a plan where you "lock yourself in your closet and hope that an intruder won't hurt you." As with Villalba's proposal, employees there must be approved by the school district in order to carry a concealed firearm.

http://www.texastribune.org/texas-education/public-education/rep-villalba-allow-teachers-carry-concealed-guns/

And the key is concealed!  Like the Air Marshalls they are most effective when would-be perp's don't know who is packing.  Other than being required to carry concealed and getting permission from the district the only other requirement is that they must use frangible rounds.

Nobody in the MFM is talking about TX and safely carrying in schools...and it is NOT by accident!  It is a deliberate act of obfuscation so their gun-grabbing agenda is the ONLY agenda to be accepted!

Damn them, damn them all to Hell!

"Under current Texas law, school districts can grant written permission for employees to carry firearms on campus. Harrold ISD, a district in northwest Texas with roughly 100 students, allows teachers to carry concealed handguns under what they call a "Guardian Plan," set up in the wake of the 2007 shooting at Virginia Tech."

No, they don't want to talk about Texas.

"Gov. Rick Perrysuggested that local control should rule — and school districts should decide for themselves whether to allow their employees to carry firearms."
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Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #141 on: December 19, 2012, 11:54:39 AM »
Quote from: Charles Oakwood on December 19, 2012, 11:34:19 AM
Quote from: Libertas on December 19, 2012, 11:28:17 AM
Under current Texas law, school districts can grant written permission for employees to carry firearms on campus. Harrold ISD, a district in northwest Texas with roughly 100 students, allows teachers to carry concealed handguns under what they call a "Guardian Plan," set up in the wake of the 2007 shooting at Virginia Tech.

David Thewatt, the district's superintendent, told the Fort Worth Star-Telegram that his district did not want a plan where you "lock yourself in your closet and hope that an intruder won't hurt you." As with Villalba's proposal, employees there must be approved by the school district in order to carry a concealed firearm.

http://www.texastribune.org/texas-education/public-education/rep-villalba-allow-teachers-carry-concealed-guns/

And the key is concealed!  Like the Air Marshalls they are most effective when would-be perp's don't know who is packing.  Other than being required to carry concealed and getting permission from the district the only other requirement is that they must use frangible rounds.

Nobody in the MFM is talking about TX and safely carrying in schools...and it is NOT by accident!  It is a deliberate act of obfuscation so their gun-grabbing agenda is the ONLY agenda to be accepted!

Damn them, damn them all to Hell!

"Under current Texas law, school districts can grant written permission for employees to carry firearms on campus. Harrold ISD, a district in northwest Texas with roughly 100 students, allows teachers to carry concealed handguns under what they call a "Guardian Plan," set up in the wake of the 2007 shooting at Virginia Tech."

No, they don't want to talk about Texas.

"Gov. Rick Perrysuggested that local control should rule — and school districts should decide for themselves whether to allow their employees to carry firearms."


Little "f" federalism, the only way it was intended to be!
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Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #142 on: December 19, 2012, 12:01:25 PM »
Gawd, did you read the comments at that link?!  They're written mostly by people -- and they're freaking out at that -- who do not get it!
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Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #143 on: December 19, 2012, 12:06:10 PM »
Quote from: Pandora on December 19, 2012, 12:01:25 PM
Gawd, did you read the comments at that link?!  They're written mostly by people -- and they're freaking out at that -- who do not get it!

Wonder how many of those morons are from inside the blue zones of Houston, Austin or other states?  Idiots!  They cannot find one instance where ANYTHING bad has happened in this school district since they adopted this policy, and THAT speaks volumes to their lack of intellectual capacity to understand anything!
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Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #144 on: December 19, 2012, 12:15:20 PM »

About us:
              The Texas Tribune was co-founded by John Thornton, Evan Smith, and Ross Ramsey. John Thornton, our chairman, has been a venture capitalist in Austin for nearly twenty years, and he believes passionately in the potential of public media. Evan Smith serves as CEO and editor-in-chief, having spent nearly eighteen years at Texas Monthly.

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Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #145 on: December 20, 2012, 07:44:10 AM »
Dwellers in the blue swamps like Austin, yeah, no contamination there!

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Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #146 on: December 21, 2012, 11:38:53 AM »

http://www.examiner.com/article/threat-to-private-gun-sales-might-be-greater-than-threat-to-assault-weapons

The Brady Campaign seems to see private sales ban as "lower hanging fruit" than a new AWB.  ...
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Senator John McCain (R-AZ) has (in)famously pushed hard to close the "gun show loophole," (Rick Santorum is another supposedly "conservative Republican" who has advocated closing the mythical "loophole") ...

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Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #147 on: December 21, 2012, 12:41:15 PM »
confiscation is the goal

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Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #148 on: December 21, 2012, 07:37:03 PM »
Quote from: LadyVirginia on December 21, 2012, 12:41:15 PM
confiscation is the goal



 Good luck with that.
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Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #149 on: December 22, 2012, 06:07:25 PM »
They'll nibble harder at the edges, make things more difficult via bureaucracy, regulation and cost...they hope to one day see their utopia of guns only in their hands...l hope l am long gone if that ever happens...
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Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #150 on: December 22, 2012, 06:43:47 PM »
Quote from: Libertas on December 22, 2012, 06:07:25 PM
They'll nibble harder at the edges, make things more difficult via bureaucracy, regulation and cost...they hope to one day see their utopia of guns only in their hands...l hope l am long gone if that ever happens...

Look for new gun and ammo taxes.
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Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #151 on: December 22, 2012, 07:59:58 PM »
Quote from: AlanS on December 22, 2012, 06:43:47 PM
Quote from: Libertas on December 22, 2012, 06:07:25 PM
They'll nibble harder at the edges, make things more difficult via bureaucracy, regulation and cost...they hope to one day see their utopia of guns only in their hands...l hope l am long gone if that ever happens...

Look for new gun and ammo taxes.

 What ammo there isn't any to be bought around here. I tried a couple of sites and they're 4 weeks out at least.
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Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #152 on: December 23, 2012, 01:03:42 PM »
Quote from: John Florida on December 22, 2012, 07:59:58 PM
Quote from: AlanS on December 22, 2012, 06:43:47 PM
Quote from: Libertas on December 22, 2012, 06:07:25 PM
They'll nibble harder at the edges, make things more difficult via bureaucracy, regulation and cost...they hope to one day see their utopia of guns only in their hands...l hope l am long gone if that ever happens...

Look for new gun and ammo taxes.

 What ammo there isn't any to be bought around here. I tried a couple of sites and they're 4 weeks out at least.

I got 1k arriving tomorrow.   ::thumbsup::
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Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #153 on: December 23, 2012, 02:43:04 PM »
Lucky you!  I can't find .223/5.56 anywhere right now. Well, not exactly -- found a couple of places selling plain old FMJ for 80 cents per round. I'll just buy dies and brass and load my own before I spend that much on normal range fodder.

7.62x39, 7.62x54R, and 5.45x39 on the other hand, I could almost become a dealer myself  ::thumbsup::
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Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #154 on: December 23, 2012, 09:46:10 PM »
Quote from: Libertas on December 23, 2012, 01:03:42 PM
Quote from: John Florida on December 22, 2012, 07:59:58 PM
Quote from: AlanS on December 22, 2012, 06:43:47 PM
Quote from: Libertas on December 22, 2012, 06:07:25 PM
They'll nibble harder at the edges, make things more difficult via bureaucracy, regulation and cost...they hope to one day see their utopia of guns only in their hands...l hope l am long gone if that ever happens...

Look for new gun and ammo taxes.

 What ammo there isn't any to be bought around here. I tried a couple of sites and they're 4 weeks out at least.

I got 1k arriving tomorrow.   ::thumbsup::

Well, Merry, Merry Christmas to you!
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Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #155 on: December 24, 2012, 11:39:19 AM »
Quote from: Pandora on December 23, 2012, 09:46:10 PM
Quote from: Libertas on December 23, 2012, 01:03:42 PM
Quote from: John Florida on December 22, 2012, 07:59:58 PM
Quote from: AlanS on December 22, 2012, 06:43:47 PM
Quote from: Libertas on December 22, 2012, 06:07:25 PM
They'll nibble harder at the edges, make things more difficult via bureaucracy, regulation and cost...they hope to one day see their utopia of guns only in their hands...l hope l am long gone if that ever happens...

Look for new gun and ammo taxes.

 What ammo there isn't any to be bought around here. I tried a couple of sites and they're 4 weeks out at least.

I got 1k arriving tomorrow.   ::thumbsup::

Well, Merry, Merry Christmas to you!

I think I took the last they had!  And I think the nasty holiday weather pushed my delivery date to today of all days!
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Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #156 on: December 25, 2012, 01:31:34 PM »
More for Obama and the hypocrites on the Left to answer for!  Are privileged kids only allowed to be protected with armed personnel, the rest can die and have the rights of their parents (and their rights when they reach age) removed, just so the Left can live under a different set of rules?

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/23/School-Obama-s-Daughters-Attend-Has-11-Armed-Guards-Not-Counting-Secret-Service

Screw that noise!  We should all be raising Hell over this!
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Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #157 on: January 02, 2013, 09:05:47 PM »
Somewhat of a new development but not official in the following interview(two parts). Quite  revealing as this guy dispels many of the inconsistencies.

Sandy Hook: Cop in CT on Contradictions, Inconsistencies & Gun Grab - Part ONE

Sandy Hook: Cop in CT on Contradictions, Inconsistencies & Gun Grab - Part TWO
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Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #158 on: January 13, 2013, 01:02:54 PM »
Quote from: IronDioPriest on December 14, 2012, 01:41:39 PM
But Weisshaupt; protecting children from crazed gunmen with deadly force is extremism.
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Extremism in the defense of liberty (and life!) is no vice!  Some are coming to that realization -

“I am not proud of the fact that it has come to this,” said Mr. Grime, who has three children of his own in Montpelier Schools.

“I am not totally in favor of having concealed-carry weapons in school.

“But times have changed.”

http://www.toledoblade.com/Education/2013/01/12/Armed-janitor-plan-draws-mixed-reaction-from-Montpelier-parents.html
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Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #159 on: January 13, 2013, 01:37:25 PM »
Quote from: Libertas on January 13, 2013, 01:02:54 PM
Quote from: IronDioPriest on December 14, 2012, 01:41:39 PM
But Weisshaupt; protecting children from crazed gunmen with deadly force is extremism.
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Extremism in the defense of liberty (and life!) is no vice!  Some are coming to that realization -

“I am not proud of the fact that it has come to this,” said Mr. Grime, who has three children of his own in Montpelier Schools.

“I am not totally in favor of having concealed-carry weapons in school.

“But times have changed.”

http://www.toledoblade.com/Education/2013/01/12/Armed-janitor-plan-draws-mixed-reaction-from-Montpelier-parents.html

Times may have changed, but human nature hasn't; same as it ever was.

I don't know what fact Mr. Grimes is not proud of -- that he's wanting to carry a weapon? -- but that's no cause for shame.

Fer crissake.
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