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Political Compass
« on: December 20, 2012, 11:41:02 AM »
I did a quick search and it showed nothing, so I thought I'd trry to share this.  This has been used to argue the point (to me) that even Obama is too conservative.

Now, Obama is certainly authoritarian.  He wants governement control of everything.  But conservative?  What exactly is he trying to preserve (they say he wants to conserve an oligarchy where the only money is old money)?


Anywho, take a peek, or the test.  I placed between Margaret Thatcher of Britian and Hitler, to my amusement. . .

Political Compass

So, if this has been discussed, I apologize.
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Re: Political Compass
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2012, 11:49:05 AM »

I disagree with its premises; "Romney, despite his consistent contempt for the impoverished,", is not only a flawed statement it is incorrect and inflammatory.


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Re: Political Compass
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2012, 11:53:06 AM »

I disagree with its premises; "Romney, despite his consistent contempt for the impoverished,", is not only a flawed statement it is incorrect and inflammatory.



That caught my eye as well, CO.  And the "Obama has surrounded himself with conservatives as advisors".  HANH?!  He's vacuumed up the worst of every marxist radical and installed them in his regime in one job or another!
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Re: Political Compass
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2012, 12:29:27 PM »
Anywho, take a peek, or the test.  I placed between Margaret Thatcher of Britian and Hitler, to my amusement. . .
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I love it when the Left talks of Hitler being on "the right"  - Its fun to ask them why-- which characteristics of the NAZI party do they  think the "Right" in America has in common with Hitler, as the "Right" in pre-Nazi Germany wished to reinstate the German Monarchy and throw out the new German constitution , and the right in this the United States  wishes preserve ( or conserve)  the Republic and Constitution  as it was originally  agreed to, and the Democrats are the ones who wish to "change" and "modernize it" using extra-constitutional methods that DO NOT preserve the consent of the govern, and in effect allow the President to rule as a King.

Usually the only thing they can come up with is "Nationalism" - to which I reply "If you mean Conservatives love their country more than liberals, then yes, I would agree"  - However, if you mean that "Nationalism" means an intolerance towards anyone not towing the party line, and using National Government power to persecute them , that would be Democrats.  They usually throw out something about Hitler being Pro Christian Church and Anti-Unions at that point, so you then get to educate them that Hitler closed any church and any Union that did not support the Nazis. He didn't hate or endorse Churches or Unions on principle - He hated anyone not loyal to him. And who were the people loyal to him? They were Socialists. The politics of Hitler's followers were those of Marx, of what is called "the left" in America. - The Nazi's fought with the communists only because they were after the same supporters.

Liberals love to play word games. They always think "getting away" with something is proof of their cleverness and superiority, and mis-using a label  like "The right" to label Conservatives in America as the same as the National Socialist Party in Germany makes them feel all manner of smart. Ask them to define their labels - and explain the characteristics and similarities and they fall apart.  Same thing with declaring those who want guns to not be "American" - The only thing American about a liberal is their geographic location - if you ask them what it means to be "American" it comes down to agreeing with the Democratic Party and belonging to their neanderthal tribe and following their prehistoric hunter gatherer ethics of tribal preservation.  The principles of the Rule of Law, Individual rights, and the consent of the governed are not only foreign to them, but completely  beyond their caveman ability to comprehend.

Romney, buy the way, is just as Authoritarian and anti-liberty as Obama. The fact that he would allow RomneyCare to be enacted is proof enough of that.  Our hope in  electing him lay in being able to pressure him, or bully him if you prefer, into doing the right thing. Something that it is not possible to do with Obama.

The establishment GOP is, by and large, a group of liberals who get themselves elected by paying lip service to conservatives, but who do nothing to impede (and certainly never to push back)  the progress of their comrades in the other party. No one who wants to lead should under any circumstances ever be allowed to do it.  Power corrupts, and it corrupts those who seek it almost the second they gain it, if not before.  The Political class has no integrity and worries only about maintaining their perks, status and position. They are seldom  bright or capable- just ambitious, but lacking what they need to be successful in any other field, so they migrate to the low-culpability field of politics.




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Re: Political Compass
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2012, 03:23:03 PM »
The only thing you need to know to prove Obama is no conservative is this statement "(we are 5 days away from) fundamentally transforming the United States of America"

He clearly views himself as a transformative figure, which I take as a lofty way of saying a radical.
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Re: Political Compass
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2012, 05:32:18 PM »

And on that happy note just think, HIS SECOND FOUR YEAR TERM DOESN'T BEGIN UNTIL JANUARY.  Hum, He's only just begun...


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Re: Political Compass
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2012, 05:37:00 PM »
No doubt. The 2nd term is going to make the first one look downright pedestrian. The Left is going full speed ahead now. There's no longer any obfuscation of their intentions.
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Re: Political Compass
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2012, 05:40:39 PM »
Obama is as conservative as any good Marxist can be.
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Re: Political Compass
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2012, 06:39:29 PM »

And on that happy note just think, HIS SECOND FOUR YEAR TERM DOESN'T BEGIN UNTIL JANUARY.  Hum, He's only just begun...



I have to keep reminding myself of exactly that, CO.  It seems like a year already since the November election.
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Re: Political Compass
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2012, 07:07:58 PM »
Apparently by conservative they mean Obama wants to conserve the tenants of Islam along with the rest of Marxism. You see, he is a conservative.
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Re: Political Compass
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2012, 07:29:20 PM »

Yes, that works.

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Re: Political Compass
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2012, 11:30:09 PM »
I didn't fail to notice DC passed a billed loosening cannibus laws on election day. . .
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Re: Political Compass
« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2012, 12:13:44 AM »
I gotta tell ya pisskop - I had to check to see if this was The Onion. It reads like bad satire. I don't think that there was even an inadvertent truth delivered there....other than an accidental acknowledgment that his acolytes are "dazzled by pigment".

But I'll treasure the fantastic improbability of the arch-conservative Ă˜bongo for a long time.  ::)

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Re: Political Compass
« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2012, 12:16:31 AM »
I think when it's all said and done, Obama and the Leftists are economic fascists. They intend to fund and solidify their rule by commandeering industry through coercion and benefaction, and thus increasingly limiting consumer options to those controlled by or beholden to government.
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Re: Political Compass
« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2012, 12:24:57 AM »
Our Father ... hallowed be Thy Name .... Forgive us our trespasses .... and Deliver us from Evil .....

Sorry, despairing this day.  Rage, despair, rage, despair, flip flop, flip flop .....
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Re: Political Compass
« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2012, 09:32:54 AM »

Hey, today's started out pretty good, check this out,
http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,7391.msg86339/topicseen.html#msg86339 , from trap.