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Not for the Masses
« on: December 25, 2012, 01:59:48 PM »
"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of "liberalism," they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened. " Norman Martoon Thomas 1944 -6 time pres. candidate (socialist)

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"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of "liberalism," they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened. " Norman Martoon Thomas 1944 -6 time pres. candidate (socialist)

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Re: Not for the Masses
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2012, 10:13:55 AM »
It goes without saying - but perhaps it never should go without saying henceforth: protection with deadly force of that which a person deems worthy is a universal value. Society embraces it as a basic principle. Every individual believes that there are some things requiring such protection.

Anti-gunners would never suggest that a bank or a state capitol building should be without such protection. They would never suggest that the president or a mayor or a Hollywood mansion should be without such protection. They would never suggest that armed guards be removed from the schools of their very own children.

Yet they would tell you that you don't have the right to protect yourself with the same force. They would tell you that their children need to protection, but your children cannot have it.

F*ck them.

These f**king hypocrites need to have this fact thrown in their faces at every turn, forever.
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Re: Not for the Masses
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2012, 10:34:54 AM »
Modern liberalism is little more than a throwback to feudalism. They see themselves as a new nobility, above and exempt from the rules and regulations they impose on everyone else. Their sense of elevated nobility comes not from any sort of merit, but rather the degree to which they promulgate The Narrative. I've often found their view of the world to be curiously feudal, but I recently read an article that did a much better job of describing it. I need to track it down.
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Re: Not for the Masses
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2012, 10:57:52 AM »
Per "Muddylaces" ...

Proposed Senate Bill:

"Requires that grandfathered weapons be registered under the National Firearms Act, to include:

Background check of owner and any transferee;
Type and serial number of the firearm;
Positive identification, including photograph and fingerprint;
Certification from local law enforcement of identity and that possession would not violate State or local law; and
Dedicated funding for ATF to implement registration"

http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons

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Re: Not for the Masses
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2012, 11:16:41 AM »
I'm going to register a phaser pistol, a slingshot, a wide mouth .30 cal straw that can hurl wet wadded paper a distance of 18 feet complete with serial numbers.
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Re: Not for the Masses
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2012, 11:41:20 AM »
[ETR: probably not a good thing to announce in public]
« Last Edit: December 27, 2012, 12:44:07 PM by IronDioPriest »
"A strict observance of the written laws is doubtless one of the high duties of a good citizen, but it is not the highest. The laws of necessity, of self-preservation, of saving our country when in danger, are of higher obligation. To lose our country by a scrupulous adherence to written law, would be to lose the law itself, with life, liberty, property and all those who are enjoying them with us; thus absurdly sacrificing the end to the means."

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Re: Not for the Masses
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2012, 01:10:55 PM »
What comes after fingerprinting? ....OH YA Tattoos

Edit:  ADD..... http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-1227-gun-buyback-20121227,0,7293938.story    Starve em into submission
« Last Edit: December 27, 2012, 01:52:42 PM by OLJingoist »
"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of "liberalism," they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened. " Norman Martoon Thomas 1944 -6 time pres. candidate (socialist)

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Re: Not for the Masses
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2012, 01:53:27 PM »
I just feel sick. All these "Molon Labe!" and "from my cold dead hands!" comments you read on different comment sections, none of that makes me feel any better. In some ways it makes me feel worse, because I feel like if people genuinely thought that way "something" would have already happened. I remember seeing all those piles of rifles being picked up by electromagnets in Australia, carried over to the furnaces, and I wonder how many Americans would submit to the same (despite the bravado to the contrary).

Part of what bothers me is that the Left's mad dash for the finish line over the past 4 years has made me seriously consider my own mortality. I wonder how long it is going to be before we are all forced into situations where our choice is licking the boot or losing our lives. One thing that remains in the back of my mind, all the millions of people during the 20th century who ended up in concentration camps or gulags, how many of them lied on their lice infested cots at night, burning with anger at themselves for not giving resistance when they could?

They need to be forced into taking direct action against us. If they are not forced to reveal their true intentions, then they are going to accomplish it through subterfuge and other insidious methods. They will somehow use the tax code or the bevy of new powers in Obamacare to effect confiscation, by subjecting you to penalties of some sort or another. They will not send the goon squads house to house unless they are forced to. And that is what they must be forced to do.
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Re: Not for the Masses
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2012, 02:03:02 PM »
I just feel sick. All these "Molon Labe!" and "from my cold dead hands!" comments you read on different comment sections, none of that makes me feel any better. In some ways it makes me feel worse, because I feel like if people genuinely thought that way "something" would have already happened.

Part of what bothers me is that the Left's mad dash for the finish line over the past 4 years has made me seriously consider my own mortality.


Mr. Glock32, I agree with your entire comment... but these two points, are exactly how I feel.  To be honest, we never truly know how we will react in a particular situation.  If somebody threatened my life, I assume I would react differently than if somebody threatened one of my children.  I would HOPE that I stand up for what is right, for the Constitution, for MY LORD GOD at all times... but what if I didn't?  What if I fall?  I think that scares me more than the actual tribulations I may endure...  May our Father God lead, guide and direct each of us, in His Will at all times, in all circumstances, AMEN.

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Re: Not for the Masses
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2012, 03:57:16 PM »
I would HOPE that I stand up for what is right, for the Constitution, for MY LORD GOD at all times... but what if I didn't?  What if I fall?  I think that scares me more than the actual tribulations I may endure...

So awesome, went to the Random Bible Verse website I have bookmarked and the Word of the Lord says:  Jude 1:24-25

24 Now to him who is able to keep you from stumbling and to present you blameless before the presence of his glory with great joy, 25 to the only God, our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion, and authority, before all time and now and forever. Amen.

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Re: Not for the Masses
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2012, 05:42:15 PM »
After the election I feel God really put it on my heart that now I really need to be a good witness for Him. It is not about me anymore it is about trying to win others to a saving knowledge of the Lord Jesus though the Holy Spirits power................. those who are lost and without hope. Lately to be honest I see may hurting and troubled souls more so than I have ever observed. People seem to be angrier, less patient,on edge etc......... Even though I may look like Jesus, for many years I sure did not act like one of His, now more than ever is the time I need to live like one of His Disciples.

I really believe that what our country is going through is more of a Spiritual battle than anything. I hate evil and will do anything needed to help defeat it. I feel Gods is withdrawing His blessings on us because we do not seem to what Him anymore which leaves room for Satan to come in and work his evil. We as born again believers cannot let this happen and I for one am going to try to go back to His word, make a greater commitment to Him and hopefully He will use me to work on saving souls for the kingdom.

There is a verse in the Bible given to the Jews back in King Solomon's time when they were unfaithful to God:

2 Chronicles 7:14

14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

I pray for the healing of our people and our land................
« Last Edit: December 27, 2012, 05:51:02 PM by Magnum »
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Re: Not for the Masses
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2012, 10:04:10 PM »
After the election I feel God really put it on my heart that now I really need to be a good witness for Him. It is not about me anymore it is about trying to win others to a saving knowledge of the Lord Jesus though the Holy Spirits power................. those who are lost and without hope. Lately to be honest I see may hurting and troubled souls more so than I have ever observed. People seem to be angrier, less patient,on edge etc......... Even though I may look like Jesus, for many years I sure did not act like one of His, now more than ever is the time I need to live like one of His Disciples.

I really believe that what our country is going through is more of a Spiritual battle than anything. I hate evil and will do anything needed to help defeat it. I feel Gods is withdrawing His blessings on us because we do not seem to what Him anymore which leaves room for Satan to come in and work his evil. We as born again believers cannot let this happen and I for one am going to try to go back to His word, make a greater commitment to Him and hopefully He will use me to work on saving souls for the kingdom.

There is a verse in the Bible given to the Jews back in King Solomon's time when they were unfaithful to God:

2 Chronicles 7:14

14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

I pray for the healing of our people and our land................

I'm trying to do better, but at this I suck .....  willful.

And absolutely no disrespect intended, Magnum, but I hope you're hitting the range as well.
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Re: Not for the Masses
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2012, 07:45:20 AM »
After the election I feel God really put it on my heart that now I really need to be a good witness for Him. It is not about me anymore it is about trying to win others to a saving knowledge of the Lord Jesus though the Holy Spirits power................. those who are lost and without hope. Lately to be honest I see may hurting and troubled souls more so than I have ever observed. People seem to be angrier, less patient,on edge etc......... Even though I may look like Jesus, for many years I sure did not act like one of His, now more than ever is the time I need to live like one of His Disciples.

I really believe that what our country is going through is more of a Spiritual battle than anything. I hate evil and will do anything needed to help defeat it. I feel Gods is withdrawing His blessings on us because we do not seem to what Him anymore which leaves room for Satan to come in and work his evil. We as born again believers cannot let this happen and I for one am going to try to go back to His word, make a greater commitment to Him and hopefully He will use me to work on saving souls for the kingdom.

There is a verse in the Bible given to the Jews back in King Solomon's time when they were unfaithful to God:

2 Chronicles 7:14

14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

I pray for the healing of our people and our land................

I'm trying to do better, but at this I suck .....  willful.

And absolutely no disrespect intended, Magnum, but I hope you're hitting the range as well.

So you're a "Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition" type person? Nuttin' wrong with that.
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Re: Not for the Masses
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2012, 10:54:14 AM »
If the final confrontation with evil is to commence let be while I am still fit enough to render service in the cause of liberty.
We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.

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Re: Not for the Masses
« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2012, 04:10:19 PM »
After the election I feel God really put it on my heart that now I really need to be a good witness for Him. It is not about me anymore it is about trying to win others to a saving knowledge of the Lord Jesus though the Holy Spirits power................. those who are lost and without hope. Lately to be honest I see may hurting and troubled souls more so than I have ever observed. People seem to be angrier, less patient,on edge etc......... Even though I may look like Jesus, for many years I sure did not act like one of His, now more than ever is the time I need to live like one of His Disciples.

I really believe that what our country is going through is more of a Spiritual battle than anything. I hate evil and will do anything needed to help defeat it. I feel Gods is withdrawing His blessings on us because we do not seem to what Him anymore which leaves room for Satan to come in and work his evil. We as born again believers cannot let this happen and I for one am going to try to go back to His word, make a greater commitment to Him and hopefully He will use me to work on saving souls for the kingdom.

There is a verse in the Bible given to the Jews back in King Solomon's time when they were unfaithful to God:

2 Chronicles 7:14

14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

I pray for the healing of our people and our land................

I'm trying to do better, but at this I suck .....  willful.

And absolutely no disrespect intended, Magnum, but I hope you're hitting the range as well.

No disrespect at all taken Pandora!  You bet I am hitting the range. I have a nice 9 mm Smith and Wesson M&P that I love to shoot, my wifey likes it too! I plan to add either a mini 14 or AR-15 and soon, in fact I was going to send you a PM and have you ask the Gunsmith on what he thinks is the best choice and what brand(s) he recommends. I am also trying to decide on what 1911 I am going to buy with all my gift cards I have saved up for this occasion.

This is not directed at you in any way Pandora just generally but just because someone is a follower if Jesus does not make Him a pacifist or to lose his passion for his love of country and its values. I am most assuredly willing to fight and die for this county that I love so much.

King David is a good example for me. King David was a man after Gods own heart yet was a true and fierce warrior. I would not hesitate in the least to pick up arms and fight for my country even against those within who want to destroy it. I cannot adequately convey to you how much I detest this administration and those who support it. Everyday I have to work on trying not harbor hate. If it comes to arms I will be first in line to fight for our Country.

I have put my full trust in the God of the Bible and I know He will lead me to fight if/when the time comes. Until that time I am just trying to be as nice and kind to others as I can and try to win them over to the Lord Jesus so they will not spend eternity in Hell..............

BTW, I just renewed my membership in the NRA.

God's Blessings to You and Yours and I pray you have a wonderful New Year.........................



« Last Edit: December 28, 2012, 06:53:42 PM by Magnum »
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Re: Not for the Masses
« Reply #16 on: December 28, 2012, 05:02:03 PM »
I'm going to register a phaser pistol, a slingshot, a wide mouth .30 cal straw that can hurl wet wadded paper a distance of 18 feet complete with serial numbers.

In Canada, we were registering, staple guns, glue guns, soldering irons, caulking guns, and one enterprising fellow even registered his Jack Russell.   My suggestion is don't, not even one..

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Re: Not for the Masses
« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2012, 08:29:04 PM »
I'm going to register a phaser pistol, a slingshot, a wide mouth .30 cal straw that can hurl wet wadded paper a distance of 18 feet complete with serial numbers.

In Canada, we were registering, staple guns, glue guns, soldering irons, caulking guns, and one enterprising fellow even registered his Jack Russell.   My suggestion is don't, not even one..
It was your post that made me think of it.?????? ::speechless::
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Re: Not for the Masses
« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2012, 08:46:27 PM »
I'm going to register a phaser pistol, a slingshot, a wide mouth .30 cal straw that can hurl wet wadded paper a distance of 18 feet complete with serial numbers.

In Canada, we were registering, staple guns, glue guns, soldering irons, caulking guns, and one enterprising fellow even registered his Jack Russell.   My suggestion is don't, not even one..
It was your post that made me think of it.?????? ::speechless::

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