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What you’ll see in the rebellion
« on: December 31, 2012, 11:56:42 AM »
By:  Bob Owens

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Let me explain, gun grabbers, how your confiscatory fantasy plays out. Let us imagine for a moment that a sweeping gun control bill similar to the one currently suggested is passed by the House and Senate, and signed into law by a contemptuous President.

Perhaps 50-100 million firearms currently owned by law-abiding citizens will become contraband with the stroke of a pen. Citizens will either register their firearms, or turn them in to agents of the federal government, or risk becoming criminals themselves. Faced with this choice, millions will indeed register their arms. Perhaps as many will claim they’ve sold their arms, or had them stolen. Suppose that as many as 200-250 million weapons of other types will go unregistered.

Tens of millions of Americans will refuse to comply with an order that is clearly a violation of the explicit intent of the Second Amendment. Among the most ardent opposing these measures will be military veterans, active duty servicemen, and local law enforcement officers. Many of these individuals will refuse to carry out what they view as Constitutionally illegal orders. Perhaps 40-50 million citizens will view such a law as treason. Perhaps ten percent of those, 4-5 million, would support a rebellion in some way, and maybe 40,000-100,000 Americans will form small independently-functioning active resistance cells, or become lone-wolves.

More here: http://www.bob-owens.com/2012/12/what-youll-see-in-the-rebellion/

I encourage you to read it.

Signed: Lone-Wolf

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Re: What you’ll see in the rebellion
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2012, 12:35:46 PM »
Passing that ban will the the new shot heard round the world.  Say his lowest number is right,  and 40,000 decide the best way to deal with this government is violence.  Do you think they will go after unarmed citizens directly and shoot up schools?  No, they will target an govt official that helps carry out such  enforcement  - how many will take that job once that is known? They will target infrastructure - the electricity grid, the water grid, and the Highway system.  What if every week this group of 40,000 managed to leave another city without power, water or supplies for weeks at a time?

Violence not your styles, what if millions decide to file hand written tax forms with bogus or stolen Social Security information. What if they just decide to file their own form wrong, and send in a new amended form with each IRS notice - It might take some of them 5-6 times to get it done.   After all it is in cities where these idiot liberals live.  How many will set up bots whose sole purpose in life is to surf govt websites from servers abroad just to add load? How many will flood govt agencies with LEGAL but deniable requests for welfare, grants, disability and other petitions to eat at the government trough? What if millions decide to go Galt - and reduce income?  or simply take their cash out of the banking system? At a conservative estimate of 10:1, that would be how many billions more the Fed would have to print just to keep the banks solvent?  There are only 321,294 households in America earning over 1 Million. What if the 4 Million Households who earn more than $200K  stop earning in protest?  There are 140+ tax filing households in the US- of those only 70 Million actually pay any tax. Add that these liberals are arrogant, self-righteous bullies of they type we are familiar with from Grade School and are getting so bold as to show it each and every day and how many will start in these small actions of rebellion just because? How many will stay within the law and simply file extensions on their tax returns? How many will deliberately  take more than one form - even if they don't intend to fill it out. How many regulations and loopholes are there in Obamacare that can legally be used to cost them money?

Liberals depend on us being civilized. They depend on the sanction of their victims. They want others to follow the letter of the law while they disregard it - and then expect those legal systems to protect them. They thought America was ungovernable before. They have no idea.
 



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Re: What you’ll see in the rebellion
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2012, 02:22:27 PM »
Passing that ban will the the new shot heard round the world.  Say his lowest number is right,  and 40,000 decide the best way to deal with this government is violence.  Do you think they will go after unarmed citizens directly and shoot up schools?  No, they will target an govt official that helps carry out such  enforcement  - how many will take that job once that is known? They will target infrastructure - the electricity grid, the water grid, and the Highway system.  What if every week this group of 40,000 managed to leave another city without power, water or supplies for weeks at a time?

Violence not your styles, what if millions decide to file hand written tax forms with bogus or stolen Social Security information. What if they just decide to file their own form wrong, and send in a new amended form with each IRS notice - It might take some of them 5-6 times to get it done.   After all it is in cities where these idiot liberals live.  How many will set up bots whose sole purpose in life is to surf govt websites from servers abroad just to add load? How many will flood govt agencies with LEGAL but deniable requests for welfare, grants, disability and other petitions to eat at the government trough? What if millions decide to go Galt - and reduce income?  or simply take their cash out of the banking system? At a conservative estimate of 10:1, that would be how many billions more the Fed would have to print just to keep the banks solvent?  There are only 321,294 households in America earning over 1 Million. What if the 4 Million Households who earn more than $200K  stop earning in protest?  There are 140+ tax filing households in the US- of those only 70 Million actually pay any tax. Add that these liberals are arrogant, self-righteous bullies of they type we are familiar with from Grade School and are getting so bold as to show it each and every day and how many will start in these small actions of rebellion just because? How many will stay within the law and simply file extensions on their tax returns? How many will deliberately  take more than one form - even if they don't intend to fill it out. How many regulations and loopholes are there in Obamacare that can legally be used to cost them money?

Liberals depend on us being civilized. They depend on the sanction of their victims. They want others to follow the letter of the law while they disregard it - and then expect those legal systems to protect them. They thought America was ungovernable before. They have no idea.
 




These are all viable "what ifs", and speak directly to the difficulty and futility of the regime trying to usurp the individual liberty of the citizenry.

Even so, when looking at the long-term agenda of the Left, the destruction of the way of life of the American people is the very first order of their business. Even embedded within the various resistance scenarios lies the accomplishment of the Leftists first and most primary goal. None of these resistance scenarios leave any semblance of the nation we've known in tact to pass on to our progeny. In reality, that nation is already gone. But so long as people are warm in their homes and fed, people will cling to it as if it is not lost.

Thus, the only real hope in rebellion is destruction - of both human life and infrastructure - and an eventual rebuilding that either will or will not resemble what has been lost.

The desire of people to cling to that which they've known and avoid the destruction embedded in such a rebellion will, I think, cause most people to tolerate the intolerable for far too long. Delay is going to worsen the destruction.
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Re: What you’ll see in the rebellion
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2012, 02:57:42 PM »
If you took all the growth of government power that has been enabled over the past 100 years and imposed all of it at once on an America of 100 years ago, I have no doubt at all that there would have been righteous and unstoppable rage from the citizens. But impose it piecemeal, over the course of many decades, and no one does more than gruff about it to their immediate associates. It's the refrain we've heard time and again from the establishment GOP -- this or that thing isn't the hill to die on, because "the real right" is going to be X, Y, and Z. Well sh*t, we're now on the verge of them eviscerating the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution, by mere statutory action no less. I hold the GOP in utter contempt. Their one overriding purpose for existing over the past 50+ years was to be the counter to the Left's long march. They failed, miserably.
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Re: What you’ll see in the rebellion
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2012, 03:41:29 PM »

Thus, the only real hope in rebellion is destruction - of both human life and infrastructure - and an eventual rebuilding that either will or will not resemble what has been lost.

The desire of people to cling to that which they've known and avoid the destruction embedded in such a rebellion will, I think, cause most people to tolerate the intolerable for far too long. Delay is going to worsen the destruction.

Hopefully it will  never  ever be like the America we knew.That is a good thing because NONE of us remembers an America without the Rot. The Civil War was the first blow. The widespread founding of Public Schools( to be commandeered by Dewey and others)  shortly thereafter the second.  Then the passage of income tax, popular election of senators and the right of women to vote  the third, fourth and fifth. (sorry ladies, but the MAJORITY of  women are irrational, emotional, easily manipulated, security seekers - however fair and just it is that they should get to vote,  allowing them to do so was part of he destruction of this nation)  Add to the damage done by FDR and NONE of us have ever lived in the Founder's America. We have never lived in an America where enslaving people to put a "Chicken in every pot"  wasn't a part of the national ethos.  

The danger lies in we ourselves forgetting the principles we fight for - the rule of law, inalienable rights, consent of the governed, and allowing a dictatorship to form- allowing Washington to ascend the throne. But if we are victorious I do not think we will allow that. We must hope that the taste of freedom is enough to change how revolutions go.
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Re: What you’ll see in the rebellion
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2013, 02:43:33 PM »
To rebellion and victory!

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Re: What you’ll see in the rebellion
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2013, 03:51:50 PM »
I am hoping that the Democrats do what they almost always do in these situations, over reach. That's the only thing that has the potential to get a lot of people stirred up. If the Democrats are smart and patient then they will continue to chip away at our freedoms until they are completely gone.

And, btw, it's only a matter of time before they shut down the internet. Eliminating the first amendment will follow quickly on the heals of the destruction of the second amendment.
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Re: What you’ll see in the rebellion
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2013, 05:53:52 PM »
And, btw, it's only a matter of time before they shut down the internet. Eliminating the first amendment will follow quickly on the heals of the destruction of the second amendment.

The former will be so much easier than the latter.
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Re: What you’ll see in the rebellion
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2013, 06:59:44 AM »
And, btw, it's only a matter of time before they shut down the internet. Eliminating the first amendment will follow quickly on the heals of the destruction of the second amendment.

The former will be so much easier than the latter.

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Re: What you’ll see in the rebellion
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2013, 09:41:17 AM »
Posted this in comment to the Article. Really I was shocked at how few people in the comments really  seemed to understand the economics, or international aspects of the situation.

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The Tyrants are running out of time.  They  can't just run out the clock, chip away at our rights, and expect to  maintain control of the country.  When the dollar goes, so does much of their power. That event will originate outside the country, as foreigners stop using the dollar for international trade and reserve. It may be sudden overnight event  or a slow migration over 3-5 years, but with  continuous printing it MUST happen, and in fact, is already happening. As arrogant as they are, the tyrants  must know this.  They are going to be forced to attempt a mass gun confiscation and a full on police state.  Time is NOT on their side. Sadly this probably means we are waiting for Princip - the international event that will allow them to start WWIII. This justifies the draft and deportation  of young, dissatisfied, unemployed adults,  the rationing of needed resources such as food and fuel, the establishment of interment camps,  the deployment of military personnel to guard the streets and any number of liberty killing edicts. There is nothing like a (Genuine)  outside threat to the country to keep those Military outfits in line. Think this is unlikely? Read the history leading up to WWI.  WWII has many of the same attributes.   This does not need to be a false flag. We have plenty  of enemies that can be goaded into picking a fight, as FDR goaded the Japanese prior to WWII.  Research it. Research FDRs economic measures both during and before the war ( look at the "Blue Eagle" laws and wonder how those were left out of your public "education") WWIII will be used as the excuse to declare martial law and seize complete economic control. and if you resist you will be assumed to be a spy. FDR was the first fascist president, and Obumbles is here to finish the job.

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Re: What you’ll see in the rebellion
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2013, 11:30:12 AM »

Remember the NRA posters displayed in depression era movies?
Never heard of "Blue Eagle" before.

Henry Ford was not impressed by the avian drawing the government unveiled 70 years ago this month. A "Roosevelt buzzard,"


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Re: What you’ll see in the rebellion
« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2013, 11:56:18 AM »
Posted this in comment to the Article. Really I was shocked at how few people in the comments really  seemed to understand the economics, or international aspects of the situation.

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The Tyrants are running out of time.  They  can't just run out the clock, chip away at our rights, and expect to  maintain control of the country.  When the dollar goes, so does much of their power. That event will originate outside the country, as foreigners stop using the dollar for international trade and reserve. It may be sudden overnight event  or a slow migration over 3-5 years, but with  continuous printing it MUST happen, and in fact, is already happening. As arrogant as they are, the tyrants  must know this.  They are going to be forced to attempt a mass gun confiscation and a full on police state.  Time is NOT on their side. Sadly this probably means we are waiting for Princip - the international event that will allow them to start WWIII. This justifies the draft and deportation  of young, dissatisfied, unemployed adults,  the rationing of needed resources such as food and fuel, the establishment of interment camps,  the deployment of military personnel to guard the streets and any number of liberty killing edicts. There is nothing like a (Genuine)  outside threat to the country to keep those Military outfits in line. Think this is unlikely? Read the history leading up to WWI.  WWII has many of the same attributes.   This does not need to be a false flag. We have plenty  of enemies that can be goaded into picking a fight, as FDR goaded the Japanese prior to WWII.  Research it. Research FDRs economic measures both during and before the war ( look at the "Blue Eagle" laws and wonder how those were left out of your public "education") WWIII will be used as the excuse to declare martial law and seize complete economic control. and if you resist you will be assumed to be a spy. FDR was the first fascist president, and Obumbles is here to finish the job.


And those thumbsucking bed-wetting Pubbies like Boehner & Co are too fvcking cowardly to point that out because they have volunteered to be neutered by the left-wing fascists that they have been surrendering everything to, damn their miserable souls to the depths of Hell!!!
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Re: What you’ll see in the rebellion
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2013, 11:57:34 AM »

Remember the NRA posters displayed in depression era movies?
Never heard of "Blue Eagle" before.

Henry Ford was not impressed by the avian drawing the government unveiled 70 years ago this month. A "Roosevelt buzzard,"



"code of fair competition."

That should have been the extent of the clues needed to know what all that shyt was about.  My grandfather hated FDR with a passion, I wonder if I hate Obama and these clowns any less?!
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