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Re: Stupid Consumers!
« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2011, 11:29:21 PM »
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*sigh*  Tools and equipment make mah heart go pitter-pat.

Not that big a step from sewing/cooking to the shop. It's just non traditional. You know, "get the hell out of my kitchen", I've heard that anyway.


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« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2011, 11:31:46 PM »
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Not that big a step from sewing/cooking to the shop. It's just non traditional. You know, "get the hell out of my kitchen", I've heard that anyway.



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Re: Stupid Consumers!
« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2011, 11:32:47 PM »
*sigh*  Tools and equipment make mah heart go pitter-pat.

I am a weird sort of female person, nu?

With all the talk of how little the dollar will be worth shortly, I'm plotzing about a place to put some of ours.  Land seems right; I just am unsure of where, but land nearby for growing would be a priority requirement.

  You have enough to grow veggies on to the point that I know you can't possibly eat them all. If you want more land look for grazing land. Live stock,beef pork chickens you can do by you and rabbits for that matter can all happen on two acres and they can be used in the garden too.

 I'm not big on the beef stuff cause it takes too much room but small stuff I like even meat goats would work on brushy land if anything they clean out the brush for you and when they get ready to roast bring them in and fatten them up on grain and all the garden waste.



Not really.  I mentioned the property is heavily wooded, thus shaded, and the trees stay for now.  Gunsmith spent a few days checking out the most likely spot for the raised bed in the back as far as available sunlight goes.  If we could grow more, I'd can, dehydrate and freeze.

Chickens and rabbits seem plausible enough for two former city-idiots, though.
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« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2011, 11:38:15 PM »
*sigh*  Tools and equipment make mah heart go pitter-pat.

I am a weird sort of female person, nu?

With all the talk of how little the dollar will be worth shortly, I'm plotzing about a place to put some of ours.  Land seems right; I just am unsure of where, but land nearby for growing would be a priority requirement.

  You have enough to grow veggies on to the point that I know you can't possibly eat them all. If you want more land look for grazing land. Live stock,beef pork chickens you can do by you and rabbits for that matter can all happen on two acres and they can be used in the garden too.

 I'm not big on the beef stuff cause it takes too much room but small stuff I like even meat goats would work on brushy land if anything they clean out the brush for you and when they get ready to roast bring them in and fatten them up on grain and all the garden waste.



Not really.  I mentioned the property is heavily wooded, thus shaded, and the trees stay for now.  Gunsmith spent a few days checking out the most likely spot for the raised bed in the back as far as available sunlight goes.  If we could grow more, I'd can, dehydrate and freeze.

Chickens and rabbits seem plausible enough for two former city-idiots, though.

 Not as hard as you might think. Very little research involved.Housing is basic but you do want them to inside at night so you're not feeding the local critters.And get a dog.Most of the research can be done on Utube.
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« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2011, 11:39:24 PM »
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I'm not big on the beef stuff cause it takes too much room but small stuff I like even meat goats would work on brushy land if anything they clean out the brush for you and when they get ready to roast bring them in and fatten them up on grain and all the garden waste.

Yes, goats and rabbits can't gore, trample, or crush you up against a fence or other solid object.  Cattle people will tell you, 'turn 'em out, let 'em breed, fatten 'em up and sell 'em', that's easy for them to say they've been doing it since they were ten.  All you need to do it watch cattlemen vet them; the chutes,  the catch to hold them. It's expensive and difficult work and cows aren't pets.

Rabbits, per pound have more protein than any other meat.
Goats pretty much take care of themselves and as JF said, clear the brush. Sheep cut your grass.




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« Reply #25 on: March 30, 2011, 12:19:08 AM »
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I'm not big on the beef stuff cause it takes too much room but small stuff I like even meat goats would work on brushy land if anything they clean out the brush for you and when they get ready to roast bring them in and fatten them up on grain and all the garden waste.

Yes, goats and rabbits can't gore, trample, or crush you up against a fence or other solid object.  Cattle people will tell you, 'turn 'em out, let 'em breed, fatten 'em up and sell 'em', that's easy for them to say they've been doing it since they were ten.  All you need to do it watch cattlemen vet them; the chutes,  the catch to hold them. It's expensive and difficult work and cows aren't pets.

Rabbits, per pound have more protein than any other meat.
Goats pretty much take care of themselves and as JF said, clear the brush. Sheep cut your grass.




  Sheep have other issues like wool that has to be dealt with and have to be tended More than goats. Goats will eat anything they get their teeth into Which is great id you have a large garden because the will eat anything but don't let them get into night shade plant family.

 Other than that it's the fastest compost generator money can buy.Rabbits done right will keep you in meat all year long.Less work than checkens too.
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Re: Stupid Consumers!
« Reply #26 on: March 30, 2011, 07:26:25 AM »
Rabbits sound easier to raise (my BIL did it growing up) and sound tastier to me than sheep or goats and I can use their fur, although a goat for milk sounds good and they are multipurpose disposals!


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« Reply #27 on: March 30, 2011, 09:18:33 AM »
Rabbits sound easier to raise (my BIL did it growing up) and sound tastier to me than sheep or goats and I can use their fur, although a goat for milk sounds good and they are multipurpose disposals!


ETA - The Farmers take over another thread!   ::rolllaughing::

(No complaints, just a comment!)   ;D



  Goats don't smell like sheep and the milk can be used for making cheeses that the lactose intolerant can eat and also drink the milk. And is also healthy meat low in fat and cholesterol.Asa a matter of fact it was re comended to my Father by his MD.
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Re: Stupid Consumers!
« Reply #28 on: March 30, 2011, 11:10:06 AM »
Rabbits sound easier to raise (my BIL did it growing up) and sound tastier to me than sheep or goats and I can use their fur, although a goat for milk sounds good and they are multipurpose disposals!


ETA - The Farmers take over another thread!   ::rolllaughing::

(No complaints, just a comment!)   ;D



  Goats don't smell like sheep and the milk can be used for making cheeses that the lactose intolerant can eat and also drink the milk. And is also healthy meat low in fat and cholesterol.Asa a matter of fact it was re comended to my Father by his MD.

I thought of cheese too!  A life without cheese?!   ::speechless::  Unthinkable!

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Re: Stupid Consumers!
« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2011, 12:00:05 PM »
Rabbits sound easier to raise (my BIL did it growing up) and sound tastier to me than sheep or goats and I can use their fur, although a goat for milk sounds good and they are multipurpose disposals!


ETA - The Farmers take over another thread!   ::rolllaughing::

(No complaints, just a comment!)   ;D



  Goats don't smell like sheep and the milk can be used for making cheeses that the lactose intolerant can eat and also drink the milk. And is also healthy meat low in fat and cholesterol.Asa a matter of fact it was re comended to my Father by his MD.

I thought of cheese too!  A life without cheese?!   ::speechless::  Unthinkable!



That ^^.  Unthinkable!  Need, need, need da cheez.

Look here at this piece on rabbits as food; it came from the same site as the "yeast" piece.

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« Reply #30 on: March 30, 2011, 12:40:18 PM »
Isn't there something potentially risky about cleaning rabbit meat properly, like "rabbit fever" or something? I just remember a family story about my grandfather nearly dying from it back in the 40s or 50s.

I might look into aquaculture. I figure I could pen a section of a nearby flowing stream and raise trout in it. During the summer they'd get fattened up mostly on their own just from eating bugs.
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« Reply #31 on: March 30, 2011, 02:30:58 PM »
Isn't there something potentially risky about cleaning rabbit meat properly, like "rabbit fever" or something? I just remember a family story about my grandfather nearly dying from it back in the 40s or 50s.

I might look into aquaculture. I figure I could pen a section of a nearby flowing stream and raise trout in it. During the summer they'd get fattened up mostly on their own just from eating bugs.

 I have eaten rabbit all my life wild and domestic and never had a problem. The big thing like any meat is proper handling and hygiene.

 My favorite dish for rabbit includes green olives and mint and wine vinegar(which I make at home)
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Re: Stupid Consumers!
« Reply #32 on: March 31, 2011, 07:34:58 AM »
Oh, I knew there were more good links on that site, just haven't had a lot of time to explore it.  Thanks Pan. 

Mmm, wabbits!   ::thumbsup::
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