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How We Were Lied to About Health Care
« on: February 11, 2013, 07:38:12 PM »
You already know Barack Obama lied to you about ObamaCare, telling his lawyers to claim in court that the charge for failing to buy health insurance was a “tax” — while telling you that it wasn’t.

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But that’s not the only deception that was employed.

We were told there were almost 50 million uninsured in this country. We were told the U.S. does worse than countries with socialized medicine on issues like life expectancy and infant mortality, and other measures. In a speech to the AMA, for example, Obama said:

    And yet, for all this spending, more of our citizens are uninsured; the quality of our care is often lower; and we aren’t any healthier. In fact, citizens in some countries that spend less than we do are actually living longer than we do. . . . We are not a nation that accepts nearly 46 million uninsured men, women, and children.

This is only one example of a flood of rhetoric telling us how inferior our health care system is.

The only problem is: it wasn’t true. Let me explain.

... MYTH OF 50 MILLION UNINSURED

... MYTH OF POOR LIFE EXPECTANCY IN U.S.

... THE MYTH OF HIGH INFANT MORTALITY

... OTHER MEASURES

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Re: How We Were Lied to About Health Care
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2013, 07:50:45 PM »
Because the Left's trope is our medicine is comparatively poor with regard to costs and outcomes as regards the socialized medicine of other countries, it is useful to have this information to stick up their noses.
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Re: How We Were Lied to About Health Care
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2013, 09:05:45 PM »

...and, (1)if they used the same diagnosis and definitions for observations as we do and (2) if they kept records as diligent and accurate as we do it would be impossible to begin to make an argument for them or against American medicine

My gosh, who wants to have their appendix removed in Britain?
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Re: How We Were Lied to About Health Care
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2013, 10:25:40 PM »
But it's too frickin' late. We are screwed. Thank a Democrat.
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Re: How We Were Lied to About Health Care
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2013, 06:45:44 AM »
Been harping from the get-go that the uninsured were but a pawn to take the industry over and force everyone into one monolithic government run plan, social security on super-steroids.  And yes we were lied to repeatedly, to our faces, by politicians and the asshats in the MFM, and yes we were betrayed by useless pant-wetting GOP leadership who chose not to fight to the death, who chose to rely on a Court that routinely rapes us and a political process that is gamed for the Left and GOP that thinks playing nice and by the rules wins them points and here we are with this abomination in place and no way out in sight and we should wonder why it all happened?   We know why it happened, we know who is at fault, we know what fate awaits them.

Thank a Democrat?

Heh, I know you jest, Trap!

The form of our thanks is gonna hurt...reeeeeal bad!
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Re: How We Were Lied to About Health Care
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2013, 11:42:26 AM »
And considering that it's now revealed a health plan for a typical family of 4, that satisfies all the mandates of ObamaCare, will cost over $20,000 per year, well, you would think even the densest would realize this is their way of eliminating private health insurance. No one can afford that. Next thing you know the private insurers are out of business and we've got single payer government medicine by default, without ever having to call it that.

They're also now openly discussing the necessity of death panels, even using that name. The rat Paul Krugman was the most recent to do so.

The people of this country are just begging to be taken to the slaughterhouse. Mindless, bleating sheep. It's so frustrating watching this train wreck. People like ourselves can see cause and effect from miles away, but just like a train wreck there's not a thing you can do to stop the inevitable. It looks like the morons of this country are going to get them a good old fashioned genocide.
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Re: How We Were Lied to About Health Care
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2013, 12:05:07 PM »
Nancy Pelosi said she and her band of idiots had to pass it to know what's in it.

That is now history, we knew what was in it all along, now everybody else does.

I say we have to end them to know how wonderful life can be without them.

Thanks for the inspiration, libiots!   ;)

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Re: How We Were Lied to About Health Care
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2013, 12:20:22 PM »
I'm thinking of setting up my own freelance death panel... 

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Re: How We Were Lied to About Health Care
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2013, 12:33:22 PM »
It looks like the morons of this country are going to get them a good old fashioned genocide.

Well, there is gonna be way more death and dying to be sure.  It remains to be seen which race will be wiped out.

But Single-payer is a good thing! Let it Burn.  The faster we pile the costs on now, the less time they have to get the police state running and fully locked down.



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Re: How We Were Lied to About Health Care
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2013, 05:53:45 PM »
I'm thinking of setting up my own freelance death panel... 

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No waiting!   ;D
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Re: How We Were Lied to About Health Care
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2013, 06:21:57 PM »
I'm thinking of setting up my own freelance death panel... 

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No waiting!   ;D

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Re: How We Were Lied to About Health Care
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2013, 07:15:20 PM »
Nancy Pelosi said she and her band of idiots had to pass it to know what's in it.

That is now history, we knew what was in it all along, now everybody else does.

I say we have to end them to know how wonderful life can be without them.

Thanks for the inspiration, libiots!   ;)


Please can I pull the chord? ::guillotine::
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Re: How We Were Lied to About Health Care
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2013, 09:11:08 PM »
Nancy Pelosi said she and her band of idiots had to pass it to know what's in it.

That is now history, we knew what was in it all along, now everybody else does.

I say we have to end them to know how wonderful life can be without them.

Thanks for the inspiration, libiots!   ;)


Please can I pull the chord? ::guillotine::

But of course!

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Re: How We Were Lied to About Health Care
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2013, 11:08:27 AM »
ObamaCare - Goodbye jobs!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-02-22/guest-post-obamacare-neutron-bomb-will-decimate-employment

More wards of the state, all part of the plan, right?
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Re: How We Were Lied to About Health Care
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2013, 01:08:17 PM »
You know it!
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Re: How We Were Lied to About Health Care
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2013, 01:28:23 PM »
http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2013-02-22/news/fl-doctor-shortage-medicaid-expansion-if-florida-20130222_1_medicaid-expansion-new-medicaid-patients-florida-medical-association

Good luck finding more doctors, soon there'll be nothing but morons with mail-order degrees caring for you, in effect it might not be any different than what a death panel will provide you...

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Re: How We Were Lied to About Health Care
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2013, 02:49:58 PM »

That's what happens when your governor turns.