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Offline sfetter

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Are there enough patriots left ??
« on: February 15, 2013, 08:47:41 AM »
Like many I see our country falling further into tyranny every day.  I also believe as many here do that the ammo buy up is to train a new army outside our military to disarm all of us. They will have the most ammo and so will win the game.  Can this be stopped ???  I really see nothing on the horizon to change any of this.

I know there are a lot of patriots in our country but at this point it seems useless.  The only thing I see which could make a difference would be a forcible take over of all our government to bring our constitution to the forefront again.  I see no indication that any such attempt would be more than a slight inconvenience for those in power.  However, someone on this forum has said, that it all needs to come to a head now.  I do believe that.  Every day that goes by they have more power and we have less. I believe we may be far beyond the point of no return.

I am so saddened to think that all of the sacrifices over the decades and even centuries have been betrayed.

Many of you are much more knowledgeable than me as well as better informed, so, am I wrong ??  I certainly hope I am.  

PS - if I had my way, virtually all of our government (Both Parties) would be tried for treason and hung.  But that's just me.
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Re: Are there enough patriots left ??
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2013, 08:56:18 AM »
PS - if I had my way, virtually all of our government (Both Parties) would be tried for treason and hung.  But that's just me.

No, it's not just you. I'd spare maybe 5-10. Hang the rest from the nearest tree.
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Re: Are there enough patriots left ??
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2013, 09:05:16 AM »
PS - if I had my way, virtually all of our government (Both Parties) would be tried for treason and hung.  But that's just me.

No, it's not just you. I'd spare maybe 5-10. Hang the rest from the nearest tree.

Nah, I'd rather wax Roman on them:  String them up from lightpoles on the Beltway and the Mall.  Leave them there long enough for everybody to see and get the lesson.

/Even decimation is not good enough for our modern pols.

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Re: Are there enough patriots left ??
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2013, 10:55:55 AM »
Like many I see our country falling further into tyranny every day.  I also believe as many here do that the ammo buy up is to train a new army outside our military to disarm all of us. They will have the most ammo and so will win the game.  Can this be stopped ???  I really see nothing on the horizon to change any of this.

This won't come down to ammo.  This battle WILL be fought.  But we will make them fight it house to house and person by person.  They rely on your voluntary co-operation-for almost everything.   Take your money from the banks ( each dollar takes at least 10 out of circulation because of the "fractional reserve" - yes the Fed will have to make up the difference. Make them. )  Stop paying taxes.  Go on the dole.  File multiple tax forms- cost them money at every opportunity. The dollar is doomed, and the faster it goes the less time THEY have to establish a police state. When the dollar crashes, so will their powers. They voted to make themselves illegitimate and therefore  irrelevant. They openly say they don't care what the Constitution says - they claim the document that grants them thier power is irrelevant.  Therefore they are irrelevant. Excercise your freedom and dare them to try and stop you.

If you refuse their edicts and your money isn't in a bank, enforcement becomes local. Molon Labe.  You want to Confiscate my guns? Molon Labe.  You want to collect my taxes? Molon Labe. You want to make your job as a citizen is to kill one of the thugs they send to enforce their tyrannical edicts. Just one before they kill you. They will run out of recruits to carry those bullets soon enough.  They can't subdue us as long as we resist. Liberty or Death.  Do they want that tax so bad they will die for it? Do they want you to buy Health Care so bad they will die for it? Are you willing to die instead of bow to them?  Bitter Clingers will fight. It is our Duty to God to fight against tyranny. They have no God. No ideal higher to fight for beyond free contraceptives and the feel good moral exhibitionism of passing laws.

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Re: Are there enough patriots left ??
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2013, 11:29:24 AM »
Like many I see our country falling further into tyranny every day.  I also believe as many here do that the ammo buy up is to train a new army outside our military to disarm all of us. They will have the most ammo and so will win the game.  Can this be stopped ???  I really see nothing on the horizon to change any of this.

This won't come down to ammo.  This battle WILL be fought.  But we will make them fight it house to house and person by person.  They rely on your voluntary co-operation-for almost everything.   Take your money from the banks ( each dollar takes at least 10 out of circulation because of the "fractional reserve" - yes the Fed will have to make up the difference. Make them. )  Stop paying taxes.  Go on the dole.  File multiple tax forms- cost them money at every opportunity. The dollar is doomed, and the faster it goes the less time THEY have to establish a police state. When the dollar crashes, so will their powers. They voted to make themselves illegitimate and therefore  irrelevant. They openly say they don't care what the Constitution says - they claim the document that grants them thier power is irrelevant.  Therefore they are irrelevant. Excercise your freedom and dare them to try and stop you.

If you refuse their edicts and your money isn't in a bank, enforcement becomes local. Molon Labe.  You want to Confiscate my guns? Molon Labe.  You want to collect my taxes? Molon Labe. You want to make your job as a citizen is to kill one of the thugs they send to enforce their tyrannical edicts. Just one before they kill you. They will run out of recruits to carry those bullets soon enough.  They can't subdue us as long as we resist. Liberty or Death.  Do they want that tax so bad they will die for it? Do they want you to buy Health Care so bad they will die for it? Are you willing to die instead of bow to them?  Bitter Clingers will fight. It is our Duty to God to fight against tyranny. They have no God. No ideal higher to fight for beyond free contraceptives and the feel good moral exhibitionism of passing laws.


Bought more PM on the dip this AM, keep killing the currency and proping up worthless paper, see if I care.  Scheduling a boat trip next.   ;)

I have no vested interest in the status quo, it/they can all hang.

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Re: Are there enough patriots left ??
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2013, 01:08:38 PM »

By the numbers:

http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,7442.msg86915.html#msg86915

ETA

I've invested my limit in PMs but have my eyes on this:

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Re: Are there enough patriots left ??
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2013, 01:14:58 PM »
That's kind of a lovely thing, CO.
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Re: Are there enough patriots left ??
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2013, 01:25:08 PM »

Thanks, check out the link, it's interesting how many non-violent ways to gumb the system, OH thirty seconds to the closest point of meteor hit.

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Re: Are there enough patriots left ??
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2013, 08:53:59 AM »
Is the glass bullet-proof?  Where the radar and FLIR, the gun mounts, mortar launchers and torpedo tubes?   ::whatgives::

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Re: Are there enough patriots left ??
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2013, 10:06:20 AM »
Well my fellow frogs. Hows the water temp?
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Re: Are there enough patriots left ??
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2013, 10:06:40 AM »

Now he tells me. Hadn't thought of those, the biggest worry had been being boarded in the middle of the night. 

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Re: Are there enough patriots left ??
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2013, 11:23:19 AM »
Heh!

All in all pretty sweet.

Where's my room?   ;D
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Re: Are there enough patriots left ??
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2013, 11:37:26 AM »

Now he tells me. Hadn't thought of those, the biggest worry had been being boarded in the middle of the night. 

Get a Submarine, then you can't be boarded

Also filed under : what I would do with 100 million dollars I had no other use for.

But really CO , that is a pretty boat. Get a 20 acre island to moor her at and you will be sitting pretty. 

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« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2013, 12:30:08 PM »
That sub looks fit for a Bond villain.
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« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2013, 12:33:36 PM »
Submarines have their own issues.  Like needing air, a crew, knowledge of how to refit and repair it.  Food.  Unfortunatly Captain Nemo did not share his insights with us.

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« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2013, 12:40:40 PM »
Submarines have their own issues.  Like needing air, a crew, knowledge of how to refit and repair it.  Food.  Unfortunatly Captain Nemo did not share his insights with us.

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I imagine the nature of submarine design intrinsically includes air-management.  A yacht of similar size needs only a negligible number to crew it; no reason the same ones cannot acquire the skills to refit and repair.
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« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2013, 12:42:11 PM »
What I was implying is the solution is to take a submariner with you. . .  ::USA::
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« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2013, 12:56:27 PM »
You could always use Captain Nemo's method of ramming surface ships for their supplies, and impressing their skilled crewmen into your own service.
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Re: Are there enough patriots left ??
« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2013, 01:44:23 PM »
I had an old schoolmate who went bubblehead, he liked calling the stuff I rode on "targets".  Funny guy.

305m is like 1000 feet, not bad.  Not going to outrun any military hardware above or below, but for general civilian use it isn't bad.

If I hit the lotto...

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Re: Are there enough patriots left ??
« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2013, 08:06:16 PM »
I ask myself teh same q, sfetter.
I think I won't know the answer until events force an answer.
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