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Son of Pastor Rick Warren
« on: April 06, 2013, 11:29:21 PM »
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LAKE FOREST (CBSLA.com) — Pastor Rick and Kay Warren’s youngest son, Matthew, has committed suicide, Saddleback Valley Community Church announced Saturday.

The evangelical megachurch announced the death of the 27-year-old in a statement. He died Friday night.

Described as “an incredibly kind, gentle and compassionate young man whose sweet spirit was encouragement and comfort to many,” the statement said Matthew suffered from mental illness that resulted in deep depression and suicidal thoughts.
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Re: Son of Pastor Rick Warren
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2013, 07:16:33 AM »
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...Matthew suffered from mental illness that resulted in deep depression and suicidal thoughts.

That's sort of an obvious point to make, isn't it? So obvious that it almost reads: "Don't look at me, it's not my fault."

I'm too cynical. Rest in peace young man.
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Re: Son of Pastor Rick Warren
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2013, 09:53:29 AM »
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...Matthew suffered from mental illness that resulted in deep depression and suicidal thoughts.

That's sort of an obvious point to make, isn't it? So obvious that it almost reads: "Don't look at me, it's not my fault."

I'm too cynical. Rest in peace young man.

I read it as "I must write something here even though I can't possibly know the monsters that tortured this man"

At least the suffering has ended.

RIP Matthew

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Re: Son of Pastor Rick Warren
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2013, 09:59:20 AM »
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...Matthew suffered from mental illness that resulted in deep depression and suicidal thoughts.

That's sort of an obvious point to make, isn't it? So obvious that it almost reads: "Don't look at me, it's not my fault."

I'm too cynical. Rest in peace young man.

I read it as "I must write something here even though I can't possibly know the monsters that tortured this man"

At least the suffering has ended.

RIP Matthew

I'm sure your interpretation is closer to reality than mine. My opinion of Rick Warren undoubtedly taints my interpretation.

Indeed, rest in peace.
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Re: Son of Pastor Rick Warren
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2013, 05:16:23 PM »
I never knew my paternal grandfather. By all accounts, he was a wonderful man who loved his two boys. He had a depression issue and a drinking issue, not a good combination. After being sober for a while, he went off with his 'friends' to Virginia Beach. While there, his best friend back home in NC died. He returned on the next train (that should date him) to go to the funeral. He told his wife (my grandmother) that he couldn't go to the service. She went and took my dad and his brother. When they returned, my dad (only 5 at the time), found his father slumped in front of the gas stove. He had killed himself.

Depression is a terrible demon, indeed.

May the young man rest in peace.
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Re: Son of Pastor Rick Warren
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2013, 07:20:21 PM »
Kinda tinged by my opinion of Rick like IDP, but the young man obviously had issues that overwhelmed him, and it is a loss family members and friends can carry with them a long time.  I had a friend a long time ago who killed himself less than an hour after he dropped me off at another friends house, I had no inkling anything was amiss, none of the "classic" warning signs.  Sometimes there is not anything more someone can or could have done.  Truly tragic.
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