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Offline Weisshaupt

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Sovereigns
« on: April 08, 2013, 09:26:57 AM »
100-300,000 Sovereign Terrorist in the US

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Even nonviolent sovereigns can cause headaches through what Finch calls "paper terrorism." Some squat in foreclosed homes and file phony deeds claiming ownership, "paying" with photos of silver dollars. Sovereigns believe U.S. currency has no value but recognize precious metals as valid currency.Officials from Greensboro and other cities pushed for a new North Carolina law that makes filing false liens a felony rather than a misdemeanor. Finch said the law, coupled with training of court officials, has helped block or dismiss many phony liens and nuisance lawsuits.

But sovereigns continue to file suits and liens, hoping to claim property and damages, Finch said.

At one meeting Finch attended, a charismatic sovereign citizen told a rapt audience that U.S. currency has no value. But he also explained how to redeem millions of dollars from secret U.S. Treasury accounts, and how to use the courts to evade government control and taxes.

Afterward, Finch said, he asked the man what he did for a living. He was a U.S. Postal Service worker.

Finch asked how he justified working for a government he considered illegitimate. "He told me he needed the money to live out his ideology," he said.

I love how they try to paint it as hypocritical.  Money is worthless, but you take money. The govt is illegitimate, but you hold a government job.

This man is taking back what you stole, and using it while its still worth something. This man thinks the govt is illegitimate because it does not operate within the bounds the people set for it - but there is no discussion of that. He is doing a one-man DOS attack  on the system, because the system relies heavily upon the co-operation of its citizens, and all I can say is- good for him. The more unnecessary and nuisance  paperwork, the fewer resources they have to go after people. 

And secret accounts for each US Citizen? Who the hell believes that? 300,000 people in the US are advocating getting money from a secret Treasury account? Really? This guy might believe it, but that would also be the definition of fringe. Why would a group of cleptocrats issue accounts in every Americans' name, and then fill them with money?

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Re: Sovereigns
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2013, 11:43:13 AM »
"They teach police to recognize sovereigns by their convoluted legal jargon and 'mouthy' defiance. 'Sovereign citizens are more likely not to obey their commands and more likely to commit violence during a traffic stop,' Finch said."

Sounds like a banger, or a drug-dealer or somethin', eh?  But those people get treated better.  Oh, and the cops don't go into the worst crime-infested banger-riddled parts of town unless they have to and then they come by the shytload.

I guess maybe when they start fearing these so-called "sovereign terrorists" maybe they'll they'll stay out of their territory too.  Hell, someday maybe one of 'em will get elected to high office, another maybe becomes a university professor or a well known writer and lecturer!

Live the dream, man!

We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.