Topic: Your Children aren't Yours

[pisskop]

http://www.redstate.com/2013/04/08/all-your-kids-are-belong-to-us/

“We have never invested as much in public education as we should have because we’ve always had a private notion of children, your kid is yours and totally your responsibility. We haven’t had a very collective notion of these are our children.
 So part of it is we have to break through our kind of private idea that kids belong to their parents or kids belong to their families and recognize that kids belong to whole communities.
 Once it’s everybody’s responsibility and not just the household’s we start making better investments.”

[IronDioPriest]

This is one instance when hearing and watching makes it even worse than reading the text. She deserves to be killed for thinking it. Saying it in that smug tone deserves torture forst.

MSNBC Host Melissa Harris-Perry » All Your Kids Belong To Us

[Pandora]

Take a good, long look at her, the lisping Melissa Harris Perry, who has twice called babies in utero "things", as she shows her real face.

I wonder how her daughter, the "thing" she once had in her uterus, feels about the specter of belonging to "the community" instead of being held safe and secure by a sane mother.

[Glock32]

I'm also sick of the canard that we somehow aren't devoting enough resources to education. We have been shoveling money into that bottomless pit for years. This country spends more per capita on education than almost any other country. I think the only ones higher were some tiny principalities like Luxembourg or Monaco. We spend more per capita than the other major economies, and they continue to have much better results than us.

I won't even get into the subject of what should become of these people advocating community ownership of one's children. You can fill in the blanks.

[Libertas]

I'd like to take up that last challenge G, but that would take up a lot of time and test the posting limits.

Suffice it to say these people are not going out of their way to hide their socialist bent anymore, not that many out in the general population understand just wtf keeps spilling out of these proglodyte yaps...

I just want them all gone...forever.  Anybody who thinks there is peaceful coexistence with this ilk is ignorant beyond repair.

[Pandora]

Via HotAir, the lisping communist both doubles down and walks it back.

[Libertas]

Only a truly dedicated Leftist can attempt to double-down and walk-back at the same time, but then again a truly dedicated Leftist has no soul and a poisoned brain, so our peculiar notions of morality and intellectual integrity mean nothing to Leftists...beyond a propaganda utility to numb the masses with anyway.  Words are just words, we know these people by their actions.

This Leftist agitator admits who she learned her collectivist/progressive bullspaltter from.

Her mommy, the Leftist.

Her daddy, the Leftist.

Her 3rd grade teacher, the Leftist.

The Leftist crossing guards.

The RINO mom suffering from Leftist-spawned guilt-trips for merely being white.

The Leftist idiots in Newtown and Chicago who intentionally send their children into their unarmed slaughterhouse everyday and wonder why their children are cut-down and whose only reaction is to curtail the constitutional rights of responsible law-abiding adults who they inexplicably blame for the death of their children, not the Leftists who set up the gun-free kill zones let alone themselves for agreeing to send them there!

The Leftist neighbors, who have been indentured progressives since FDR.

The people you choose to hate but trumpet as one of you in certain cases that only benefit you - like the evil George W. Bush.

From anybody else you can hijack and extort into supporting your agenda because that's what people down for the struggle do!

And note Ms. Perry, I did not use any "hateful" personal attack here, if you find one it is only because you want one!

And know this, WE WILL NEVER GIVE UP OUR RIGHTS, not to you or any of your ilk, EVER!  We will go to war and lay down our lives if necessary to protect these rights, how willing are you (you, not others by proxy, YOU!) to do the same in trying to take them away?

Hmmm?  I'm waiting!!!

[Weisshaupt]

Via HotAir, the lisping communist both doubles down and walks it back.

Yep.. oh I meant that people should  help the kids around them, even if they aren't your kids. .  Problem is, we know liberals don't have the concept of "voluntarily" - they are convinced the power of govt should be used as a weapon to coerce what they think is the right behavior. At this point, B*tch you and your ghetto children can die of starvation and I will merrily watch. Is that HHateful? Why yes it is. I wonder what could have cause me to hate you oh so very much? You see, people don't like being bullied. It causes rifts and animosity, to the point where I will die rather than give you what you want, and be perfectly happy in heaping pain and death on  you in the process. Good intentions or no. You good intentions are nullified the first time you point a gun at my head. You want to heal the world? Respect the rights of others.

Oh, and Yes, you damn well meant the State should take children and indoctrinate them with your values, while arresting re-educating, and  executing the parents for having values different than yours.  Just being a dumb liberal you couldn't figure out that was supposed to be a secret.

[Alphabet Soup]

I saw your comment at the site Weisshaupt - nicely done. I tried to register so that I could add my .02 but the page locked up. No matter, her "inbox" got an earful even without me ;-)

[Weisshaupt]

The reason the right does so well on talk radio but the left is nearly non-existent there is because in that medium you state your views unfiltered with no worry about being political, and when the left do that, they scare even themselves.

Still, that seems to be MSNBC’s new advertising strategy. Just look at this ad where they have one of their hosts talking about how parents shouldn’t be the one making decisions for their children and instead it should be done by the Borg collective (yes, she actually used the term “collective”).

Isn’t this the choice the left usually give, though? You can either have decision making power in the hands of the people who care the most, i.e., the people making decisions for themselves and their families, or in the hands of those who just really like to pretend to care like government officials and Melissa Harris-Perry (man, I just have trouble taking hyphen names seriously). They love to act like they care about individuals, but they really just sorta care about this amorphous blob called “society” they love to play with like its Play-Doh, molding it to different shapes with no worries about how that affect the individual. A parent cares that her child is in a failing school now and wants a solution now, while pro-government people are too concerned with “society” to worry about the individual. If we help that one kid now with a voucher, why that could hurt public school and “society”! Thus the kid is condemned to a failing school while government official fiddle around tweaking things because that’s supposed to be better for everyone. These aren’t the actions closer to a sociopath than someone who cares about your kid.

It’s like if the left were more honest — talk radio honest — with their views, they’d tell a woman worried about rape that, “Yeah, you might get raped if we disarm you, but while you’re being raped, just think of how better society is with less guns in it!” It’s what the left obviously believes from their actions, but — outside of MSNBC — they usually have enough shame not to say such things.

Anyway, the point is, decision power needs to be the individual making decisions for himself, because he’s the one who actually cares and doesn’t treat this all as some game with each individual just a pawn. The people who actually care making the important decisions is freedom, and it’s the antithesis of the left’s collective.

-Frank J - Imao.us

[John Florida]

 Stupid cleuless bitch! Come for my kids I dare you.

[Libertas]

That's the ticket JF!

Touch our kids, you die. I don't have kids, but I have nieces & nephews...same deal, touch them, you die!

[Weisshaupt]

Its not theft as long it is for things I think I need.

We Need a National Conversation on What Rights Actually Are
Posted by Frank J.: April 11, 2013 11:00 am
So that Harris-Perry nitwit from MSNBC is back with a new promo. And what statist idiocy is she pushing now?

You do have the right to health care, and to education, and to decent housing and to quality food at all times.

No, you don’t have a right to any of those things, you boob.

Let’s pretend we did, let’s say, have a right to food. What would that mean? Well, what if I didn’t have food? Since, I have a right to it, that means someone will have to give it to me. And what if that someone who makes the food doesn’t want to give it to me for free? Then, since I have a “right” to it, the government will have to send people with guns to force him to give it to me. So saying you have “a right to food” is really saying “I have a right to put a gun to people’s heads and force them to give me what I think I need.”

I’ve said this a number of times (including in my last book), but I’m really serious on this: We need a national conversation on exactly what rights are. Too many people don’t seem to get the concept at all and seem to confuse rights with “I really want this.” So anyone know how we get national conversation going? I certainly don’t or there’d be a big new crater on the moon by now.

[IronDioPriest]

We don't need a national conversation on anything. The time for national conversations is come and gone. You don't converse with someone who places a gun to your head. You fight for your life, or you die.

[Libertas]

Something just struck me by this idiotic statement "your children aren't yours" that I guess should have been obvious from the start (perhaps it was but it was left unspoken as it was so evident), but it seems to be an extension of the insane abortion view libiots ascribe to, a non-human lump of tissue is completely at the whim of the human carrying that detritus in her womb but a soon as it hits the delivery room that non-human lump skips right past maternal ownership into ward of the state.  (I skipped paternal ownership because libiots barely tolerate men and their rights are clearly only what the FemProg says it is/gets the state to impose)

Clearly, this is unimpeachable iron-clad proof that libiots are in fact absolutely stark raving mad.

Live in peace and mutual respect with these psychopaths?  Uhh, clearly NOT!

[Weisshaupt]

Another excellent treatment of the subject

From the Comments:

BeetleBailey

"Ask your mother why she fed and educated you like a collectivist instead of leaving you out in the woods to take care of yourself."

That verbiage alone makes your whole argument moot Huxley. Mother's feed and educate their children INDIVIDUALLY, and as a family, and are responsible for them. Has been that way for thousands of years.

We can't help that you appear to have been raised in some collectivist farm.....pity.

Yes someone actually said that- because liberals CAN'T understand the difference between voluntary ( what a mother does)  and compulsory (what the collective does) - it is at the heart of their brain damage. Or put anoither way

The collective sits in New Orleans and waits.  Individuals get to higher ground.

[Glock32]

The attempted analogy also reveals that they fundamentally view people as children. They can't distinguish between a helpless child who requires its mother to even survive, and a grown adult capable of making his or her own way in life.

[RickZ]

Via HotAir, the lisping communist both doubles down and walks it back.

My inbox began filling with hateful, personal attacks on Monday

Hateful because they dared disagree with her.  Notice how disagreement is always hateful and personal?  Well, it is personal as the person said it, but does not like being called on it.

The sad thing is she has a public platform (even though few viewers, we know about her) whereas in the past she'd be in a mental institution.

[John Florida]

Via HotAir, the lisping communist both doubles down and walks it back.

My inbox began filling with hateful, personal attacks on Monday

Hateful because they dared disagree with her.  Notice how disagreement is always hateful and personal?  Well, it is personal as the person said it, but does not like being called on it.

The sad thing is she has a public platform (even though few viewers, we know about her) whereas in the past she'd be in a mental institution.

  And needs to be in one today!

[Glock32]

And they have the nerve to act as if people "getting up in their grill" in response to things like this are the ones crossing some line of propriety?

"All I said is that your own flesh and blood aren't yours to raise, that they actually belong to the collective and when and if we see fit the great glorious State will appropriate them as it sees fit."