Topic: Worldly Possessions

[John Florida]

Ann cuts both ways, we admire her zeal in highlighting the kabuki economy and things like that, her religious diatribes not as much, and frankly I find people wanting to buy a wooden spoon for $500 to be truly nuts.

  Is it possible that the spoon is just an excuse to donate 500. to her and no more?

[Pandora]

Ann cuts both ways, we admire her zeal in highlighting the kabuki economy and things like that, her religious diatribes not as much, and frankly I find people wanting to buy a wooden spoon for $500 to be truly nuts.

  Is it possible that the spoon is just an excuse to donate 500. to her and no more?

That's what I was thinking.

[charlesoakwood]

I'm confused.  Why would I want to donate to her when she takes
a vow of poverty and refuses to fight for her own possessions?

[IronDioPriest]

I'm confused.  Why would I want to donate to her when she takes
a vow of poverty and refuses to fight for her own possessions?

That's an interesting question.

[Pandora]

I'm confused.  Why would I want to donate to her when she takes
a vow of poverty and refuses to fight for her own possessions?

That's you and that's fine.  She has friends, and, I'm presuming, a list of former clients to whom she told the truth in the hopes of protecting them as best she could.  Perhaps ... a speck of loyalty, yes?

The possession she's unwilling to fight for is the house.  Perhaps she hasn't the money for the legal fees that would entail.  This is different from auctioning off one's stuff.

[John Florida]

I'm confused.  Why would I want to donate to her when she takes
a vow of poverty and refuses to fight for her own possessions?

   Maybe those possessions aren't what she really cares about and has something else in mind. Maybe there were just too many posesions with bad memories?A new beginning?  It may just be a Catholic thing,who knows.

[charlesoakwood]

Don't know enough about Catholicism to say but the first reading
hurt my gut, buying her spoon felt as if I were adulterating her goal.

[AmericanPatriot]

Just speculating.
Maybe she's chosen to live a life of poverty and dispense of worldly possessions

[charlesoakwood]

http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,8111.msg95670.html#msg95670
This auction is three days long, ending on April 15th at 1919:58 PDT and will determine if I bother to list any more items or not. Like I said, we'll just see how this goes. Thank you in advance for your kind consideration.

My Ebay handle is 720ann.

She's auctioning off her spoon on ebay.

[Libertas]

I initially thought what Pan & JF thought, but my follow up reaction was like CO's.  If somebody wanted to give her a donation they can do that direct, it's called a "gift".  By auctioning off stuff, it looks unseemly to me in the wake of her bold declarartion of embracing poverty, or she just went a bit overboard with her hyperbole in describing her intent.  It would have been better IMO had she just said "I'm having a garage sale to get rid of this junk, maybe sell some stuff online, and donate the rest to charity" and nobody would have given any of this another thought.

[pisskop]

hmmm . . .

well she's a firebat . . .

[IronDioPriest]

I initially thought what Pan & JF thought, but my follow up reaction was like CO's.  If somebody wanted to give her a donation they can do that direct, it's called a "gift".  By auctioning off stuff, it looks unseemly to me in the wake of her bold declarartion of embracing poverty, or she just went a bit overboard with her hyperbole in describing her intent.  It would have been better IMO had she just said "I'm having a garage sale to get rid of this junk, maybe sell some stuff online, and donate the rest to charity" and nobody would have given any of this another thought.

Yup. Or even, "I've lost my house to foreclosure, and you know, I'm really at peace with it because I feel the burden of clinging to such a worldly obligation lifted from me. But now I won't be needing a lot of household items, so I might as well sell them on ebay to those of you who appreciate the stand I took that led me to lose my home."

I'm pretty sure that's exactly where she's at. But she took it the step-too-far with her vow of poverty. Her zeal betrayed her.

[benb61]

Her spoon is at $560, just an FYI.

[Weisshaupt]

I initially thought what Pan & JF thought, but my follow up reaction was like CO's.  If somebody wanted to give her a donation they can do that direct, it's called a "gift".  By auctioning off stuff, it looks unseemly to me in the wake of her bold declaration of embracing poverty, or she just went a bit overboard with her hyperbole in describing her intent.  It would have been better IMO had she just said "I'm having a garage sale to get rid of this junk, maybe sell some stuff online, and donate the rest to charity" and nobody would have given any of this another thought.

Its Unseemly. That is the word to describe how I feel about it.  I didn't like it, but I wasn't sure why. 

  I have always enjoyed Ann's thoughts - even on Catholicism. I always find it interesting to know what others really believe and where their intellectual journey's take them - there are too many roads and I can't take them all. While she may (wrongfully)  claim that she ( or the Church) has  exclusive possession of the truth, I don't use that to assume she has none of it. Very often she expressed the truth very eloquently, and from a perspective I would never have come at it from, and I have always found that valuable.

That she is fallible as the rest of us, of course, comes as no surprise ( to us)  but it may come as a surprise to her. God may be attempting to point that out to her.

[Glock32]

I don't know if selling one's possessions is perhaps less likely to attract scrutiny from the Excise-Man versus taking direct donations/gifts, but that may be why she's doing things this way.

I wonder though, whatever she is taking payment into, wouldn't that likely be attached by the IRS? I know her goal is to avoid contributing the murder-machine.

[charlesoakwood]

She just contributed her home to him which must be worth considerably more than a drawer of spoons.  Also if she had contested she could have cost them more money, time and personnel.  Too, she may have garnered some much desired positive publicity. 

[Weisshaupt]

I should probably let it pass without comment  but Ann's Burnt Offering Vase is currently on the Auction block.  Sure to become the most valuable relic of St. Barnhardt, this vase is advertised to still posses a bacony aroma.



Unseemly. Yeah that is the word I am looking for.
 

[BigAlSouth]

All I know is North Carolina Law. You can't get foreclosed on without a hearing. At the hearing, the homeowner is entitled to challenge the note holder's acceleration of the debt. In my state, someone like Ann would not lose her house if she was current on her debt.

Without boring everyone with the details of loan servicing and assignments and such, suffice it to say that the real money made in mortgage loans is in the servicing of the loan: i.e., the collection of the monthly payments. The interest paid accounts for the cost of funds in the beginning, for the initiation of the loan. What was once a relatively certain market, the home lending business was ruined by the thieves at Freddie and Fannie, taking their huge production bonuses in legalized theft.